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August 30, 2012 1:12:23 AM

I want to build a gaming pc for 800$ or less. One condition though I want the graphic card either GTX 660 ti or GTX 570 2.5gb

and also I don't know much about cases but I already got one from friend it's a Antec P180 sliver(mid case).

Please help it would be very much appreciated!!

This is what I have so far and Its all canada
http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/g0CG
The case im not buying it

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August 30, 2012 1:16:19 AM

First thing is your price gonna be in usd or cad or....
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August 30, 2012 1:28:21 AM

Approximate purchase date: sooner better

Budget range: 600-800$ After Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, watching movies, surfing internet, Folding@home

parts not required: Keyboard, Mouse, moniter, speakers, OS, Case

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.ca, Ncix.ca, amazon.ca.

Country: Canada

Parts Preferences: GTX 660 ti, Amd cpu

Overclocking: No

Sli/crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
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August 30, 2012 1:29:16 AM

An AMD CPU will bottleneck the 660Ti.
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August 30, 2012 1:31:32 AM

painboy666 said:
Approximate purchase date: sooner better

Budget range: 600-800$ After Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, watching movies, surfing internet, Folding@home

parts not required: Keyboard, Mouse, moniter, speakers, OS, Case

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.ca, Ncix.ca, amazon.ca.

Country: Canada

Parts Preferences: GTX 660 ti, Amd cpu

Overclocking: No

Sli/crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080


obsama1 said:
An AMD CPU will bottleneck the 660Ti.


Even a Amd phenom ii x4 965 black 3.6 ghz
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August 30, 2012 1:59:10 AM

Yes.
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August 30, 2012 2:06:30 AM

obsama1 said:
Yes.


ok then I guess im not going to get a gtx 660 ti yet
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August 30, 2012 2:13:09 AM

painboy666 said:
Even a Amd phenom ii x4 965 black 3.6 ghz


http://techreport.com/articles.x/23246/1

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

grabbing one with a 660ti would result in a bottleneck but not a major one that would result in unplayable frame rates. the major concern is when you decide to upgrade that GPU several years from now, while keeping that CPU. hopefully, Piledriver or Steamroller will deliver and without you needing a new motherboard then.
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August 30, 2012 2:18:16 AM

hey buddy, check out my signature builds!

Edit: you can scrap the SSD in my 1000$ build, get a cheaper case (like the HAF 912) a cheaper PSU and no CPU cooler to fit the GTX660ti but IMO its not worth it... why? look:











BF3 is optimized for Nvidia cards.

IMO, you should scrap a few parts of my 1000$ build to make it fit your budget or get a 7950.
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August 30, 2012 2:23:45 AM

idroid said:
hey buddy, check out my signature builds!


Good ones now its a tough choice. Btw im always sceptical about having a 500w power supply because too me it looks like it not enough. Thanks!
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August 30, 2012 2:28:21 AM

painboy666 said:
Good ones now its a tough choice. Btw im always sceptical about having a 500w power supply because too me it looks like it not enough. Thanks!


500-550W are usually enough for a single card setup as GPUs are more power efficient nowadays. the problem is finding a quality PSU with enough power through the 12v rails all for a good price.
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August 30, 2012 2:30:56 AM

PC Power&cooling PSUs have extreme quality.
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August 30, 2012 3:04:08 AM

Yup, their PSU's are top-notch and quiet.
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August 30, 2012 5:17:34 AM

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For under $800 mmm, probably can pick one of these up...

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/Soldier36/ibm-pc.jpg

I think maybe you got lost and stumbled into the wrong forum?


http://www.directcanada.com <----- Free Shipping on orders over $50


http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC2961&v... $60.15
XFX 550W PRO550W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 44A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD2284&v... $78.79
ASUS P8B75-M/CSM mATX LGA1155 B75 DDR3 1PCI-E16 1PCI-E4 2PCI SATA3 DVI HDMI USB3.0 Motherboard

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD7004&v... 198.34
Intel Core i5 3470 Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.2GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD5211&v... $40.82
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&v... $17.58
ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14120DR5445&v... $79.79
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD5873&v... $307.35 MIR $292.35
MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti Power ED 1019MHZ 2GB 6.0GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI Display Port PCI-E Video Card

Total: $782.82 *not including mail in rebates


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power... <----- review w/benchmarks of that MSI GTX 660 ti
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August 30, 2012 5:29:15 AM

just remember that the 7950/70 is an extremely loud card compared to the 660 ti
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August 30, 2012 5:35:29 AM

^ Where is that information coming from? THG only compared the sound to reference cooling. Custom HSF's like from Asus/MSI/Gigabyte/Sapphire/HIS are all much quieter than the reference design. I have a 7870 TFIII and it's inaudible up until the fan speed hits 65% which is rare when it's needed.
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August 30, 2012 5:35:31 AM

IamAutiz said:
just remember that the 7950/70 is an extremely loud card compared to the 660 ti


What the hell are you talking about? the noise produced by a GPU entirely depends on the cooler.
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August 30, 2012 5:51:15 AM

A 965 WILL NOT bottleneck a 660 or 7950 if you jack it up to 3.8GHz or so and up the Northbridge a touch. Which takes around 5min with a half decent cooler. Yes its an older architecture but a quad is a quad. You design a game that can actually properly use a quad, there will be little difference (a few FPS) between a 2500K and a 965.
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August 30, 2012 5:54:12 AM

Smeg45 said:
A 965 WILL NOT bottleneck a 660 or 7950 if you jack it up to 3.8GHz or so and up the Northbridge a touch. Which takes around 5min with a half decent cooler. Yes its an older architecture but a quad is a quad. You design a game that can actually properly use a quad, there will be little difference (a few FPS) between a 2500K and a 965.


based on your "Quad is quad" logic then the OP could buy an A8-3870k, and yes, there ARE difference between the 2500k vs 965 when it comes to frame rate, specially if you clock them at the same frequency.
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August 30, 2012 5:57:15 AM

Smeg45 said:
A 965 WILL NOT bottleneck a 660 or 7950 if you jack it up to 3.8GHz or so and up the Northbridge a touch. Which takes around 5min with a half decent cooler. Yes its an older architecture but a quad is a quad. You design a game that can actually properly use a quad, there will be little difference (a few FPS) between a 2500K and a 965.



theres generally 2 types of bottle necking:

1. Bottlenecking due to lack of core count or speed. this applies more or less to dual cores. FPS takes a significant drop

2. Bottlenecking due to architecture, which essentially is that the CPU although fast, cant send large packets of information fast enough, which results in lower fps, but not as low as above. this will be like comparing the 965 vs the 2500k for instance, where this would be relevant, as intel sends more information per cycle than amd, even if the clock rate of the amd is larger.
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August 30, 2012 5:59:49 AM

idroid said:
based on your "Quad is quad" logic then the OP could buy an A8-3870k, and yes, there ARE difference between the 2500k vs 965 when it comes to frame rate, specially if you clock them at the same frequency.


I did mention overclocking specifically to close the Intel gap, and obviously, no one would pick a 3870K just because its a quad. Its a niche product which anyone can find out with 20sec of Googling.
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August 30, 2012 6:05:44 AM

Smeg45 said:
I did mention overclocking specifically to close the Intel gap, and obviously, no one would pick a 3870K just because its a quad. Its a niche product which anyone can find out with 20sec of Googling.


Well a Quad is a quad...don't you think?
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August 30, 2012 6:07:27 AM

Why get the 955/965 when the FX-6100, granted the Bulldozer chips are great but they overclock better and are still decent.

The 3870K isn't half bad but it isn't meant to be used as a chip running a dedicated card.


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August 30, 2012 6:48:57 AM

I just posted a build with a IB 3470 for under $800 so what's with all this AMD talk?
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August 30, 2012 6:53:54 AM

Why_Me said:
I just posted a build with a IB 3470 for under $800 so what's with all this AMD talk?


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September 5, 2012 1:39:37 AM

Best answer selected by painboy666.
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