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August 30, 2012 8:14:38 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: next week sometime (after Labor day)

Budget Range: 900-1100 After Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: video streaming, surfing the internet, programming, networking, gaming

Parts Not Required: monitor, speakers

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com and amazon.com

Country: United States

Parts Preferences: definitely want a 1 TB 7200 rpm hard drive, and 128 SSD is all I need, no more than that; don't want to spend more than $200 on a graphics card; Antec or Gigabyte for MoBo; looking for Antec or Corsair for PSU

Overclocking: Yes, eventually

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920X1050

Additional Comments: Looking for recommendations on a good keyboard/mouse. Also, I would appreciate thoughts on using onboard graphics that come with the MoBo, advantages and disadvantages etc. I won't be doing any gaming until at least December so I'm thinking about trying onboard until then and I can always buy a video card then. I would appreciate advice on PSU (wattage, Bronze/Silver/Gold rating, modular or not, etc.)
Also looking for reasons why you recommend certain parts since I'm still trying to learn about all this. :) 

TENTATIVE PARTS LIST:

ASUS Intel Z77 ATX DDR3 2400 LGA 1155 Motherboard P8Z77-V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

also considering:

GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB kit (4GBx2) DDR3-1600 1.5V 240-Pin UDIMM BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-DDR3-1600-240-P...

also considering:
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model
bCMX8GX3M2A1600C11
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/Lite-On-LightScribe-Layer-Drive-I...

Antec Lanboy Air Yellow ATX Mid Tower Computer Modular Case
http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Lanboy-Air-Computer-Modular...

just an idea, would consider any good case really.

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-120mm-RR-212E...

XIGMATEK Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition CPU Cooler with Stealth Aerospace Industry Thermal conductive ceramic coating ALL intel AMD IVY BRIDGE compatible
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is just what I've come up with after some research. I would appreciate input on better parts or anything like that. Thanks in advance!

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August 30, 2012 8:33:39 PM

For the parts you suggested - the Gigabyte is a better board than the Asus, the Hyper 212 is far better than Xigmatek, and the Crucial Ballistix is far better RAM than the Corsair XMS.

For that budget I'd recommend something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($407.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1312.89
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-30 16:34 EDT-0400)
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August 31, 2012 12:45:54 AM

Why would you say that the Gigabyte board is better than the Asus? Also, is there an Asus board that you would say is comparable to the Gigabyte?

Why would you recommend the Mushkin RAM over Crucial?

I think I would like a 1TB drive over 500 Gb cause I have quite a lot of movies/music. I have heard really good things about Crucial M4 SSD series, why would you say Samsung 830?

I don't think I'm willing to spend 400 dollars on a video card but thanks for the suggestion. I'm debating trying to go with the onboard graphics of whatever MoBo I get since I won't be doing really any gaming until December or January sometime. But I don't know much about the quality of video I need or if onboard graphics would be ok for that. Thoughts?

Last thing, I thought a 500 or 650 W power supply would be sufficient for anything but a high end build. Any specific reason why you recommended a 750 W?

Thanks for the reply!
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August 31, 2012 1:35:20 AM

Here is my recommendation:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/g7k4
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/g7k4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/g7k4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Force Series 3 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($144.99 @ CompUSA)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($305.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill 630W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1149.87
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-30 21:30 EDT-0400)
Very solid build G unit ! Your always very helpful on the forums. Here's my take
CPU and Cooler -- Nothing to say there

GPU - I saw that you didn't wanna go 400+ on a GPU so I got you a 300$ 660ti.
HDD - I didn't wanna go 5400RPM so I got you to a 7200RPM, and a bigger SSD drive.
Memory - Not to many differences.
Case - The HAF 922 is a very solid case! I think its around top 10 cases on Newegg. Lots of airflow and a good fan set-up could keep it quiet. If you want to go Corsair, no problem. I'd be a few extra bucks, though.

PSU - Since you would be running any extreme internals, I got you a Silver 630W PSU. Rosewill's CPU here has lots of good feedback -- It will run you well.

Optical Drive - Nothing flashy there. But we can get you a Blu-Ray drive if you need !

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August 31, 2012 2:41:30 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $133.98 save: $16.00 - $30.00 Mail In Rebates
CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $84.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASRock Z75 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $521.98 save: $8.00 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
MSI N660Ti PE 2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-120mm-RR-212E... $32.32 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $40.99 FREE SHIPPING
Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00

http://www.amazon.com/Lite--Super-AllWrite-Layer-Drive/... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 Version C (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $69.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 500 GB 7200RPM SATA NCQ 16 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Desktop Hard Drive ST3500641AS-RK-Retail Kit

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $94.99 FREE SHIPPING
SanDisk SDSSDP-128G-G25 2.5" 128GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Total: $997.23 *includes shipping
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August 31, 2012 3:36:04 AM

lotr_freak said:
Why would you say that the Gigabyte board is better than the Asus? Also, is there an Asus board that you would say is comparable to the Gigabyte?

Why would you recommend the Mushkin RAM over Crucial?

I think I would like a 1TB drive over 500 Gb cause I have quite a lot of movies/music. I have heard really good things about Crucial M4 SSD series, why would you say Samsung 830?

I don't think I'm willing to spend 400 dollars on a video card but thanks for the suggestion. I'm debating trying to go with the onboard graphics of whatever MoBo I get since I won't be doing really any gaming until December or January sometime. But I don't know much about the quality of video I need or if onboard graphics would be ok for that. Thoughts?

Last thing, I thought a 500 or 650 W power supply would be sufficient for anything but a high end build. Any specific reason why you recommended a 750 W?

Thanks for the reply!
Well just between those two vs each other that Gigabyte best it in benchmarks i don't think he means Gigabyte boards are better that would be a personal opinion as well as a blanket statement and hes not a noob so he wouldn't say that ;)  Hes recommending you Crucial over Mushkin based on price at the current moment his reasoning are price as both are reliable and neither is better than the other thus go with the cheaper again hes recommending you the 750w because it's a solid reliable 80PLUS Silver rated that comes with a Legendary Silencer Series with 7 Year Warranty you get all that for same price as which most reliable 650W cost also in case you ever decided to run two high end cards you wouldn't need to upgrade your psu i am assuming he was trying to future proof you somewhat by giving you the breathing room.


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August 31, 2012 4:20:57 AM

Thanks everyone for all the replies, I appreciate all the recommendations.

MoBo: I am fairly firm on Asus or Gigabyte from research I have done, unless someone can tell me why another one would be better/more reliable. I have learned that the Gigabyte I posted is better (benchmark wise) than the Asus I posted, I would be interested in what people think about the Asus P8Z77 -V Pro and Deluxe, they seem to be the higher end version of what I posted and I'm having trouble finding out why exactly they are better.

RAM: Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there quite a few brands that would be considered high-end? Some of the RAM recommended here I've never heard of, and I have no idea how to differentiate between them. I was planning on going with Crucial Ballistix unless someone tells me why another brand is better.

Video Card: Not looking to spend more than $200, since gaming is a low priority (if at all) and right now I don't want to drop more than that on a video card. Would appreciate advice on if using onboard graphics is a viable option.

Cooler: I see Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo recommended here a couple times, so that helps my decision a lot. Does anyone have any thoughts on Xigmatek coolers though? Specifically AEGIR SD128264 or Dark Knight II.

Hard Drive: Looking for 1 TB 7200 rpm hard drive and 128 GB SSD.

PSU: Looking for Antec or Corsair unless someone can tell me why another one is better/more reliable. Also, could anyone give me a quick reason or two of why 550-650 W wouldn't be enough?

Thanks!

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August 31, 2012 4:36:10 AM

lotr_freak said:
Thanks everyone for all the replies, I appreciate all the recommendations.

MoBo: I am fairly firm on Asus or Gigabyte from research I have done, unless someone can tell me why another one would be better/more reliable. I have learned that the Gigabyte I posted is better (benchmark wise) than the Asus I posted, I would be interested in what people think about the Asus P8Z77 -V Pro and Deluxe, they seem to be the higher end version of what I posted and I'm having trouble finding out why exactly they are better.[/quote
Asus, Asrock, Gigabyte, MSI...flip a coin because that's pretty much what it comes down to.

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RAM: Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there quite a few brands that would be considered high-end? Some of the RAM recommended here I've never heard of, and I have no idea how to differentiate between them. I was planning on going with Crucial Ballistix unless someone tells me why another brand is better.

G.Skill, Corsair, Mushkin...flip a coin. Also throw in the new Patriot extreme into that group. Just try and get 1.5v RAM.

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Video Card: Not looking to spend more than $200, since gaming is a low priority (if at all) and right now I don't want to drop more than that on a video card. Would appreciate advice on if using onboard graphics is a viable option.

That would be the 7850.

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Cooler: I see Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo recommended here a couple times, so that helps my decision a lot. Does anyone have any thoughts on Xigmatek coolers though? Specifically AEGIR SD128264 or Dark Knight II.

Xigmatek makes decent coolers but the CM EVO seems a more solid choice imo. Decent fans and they seat nicely.

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Hard Drive: Looking for 1 TB 7200 rpm hard drive and 128 GB SSD.

Sandisk, Samsung, Crucial would be my first choice although there's a few other solid brands out there. You can pick up a Sandisk 128GB for $95 and free shipping at newegg.

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PSU: Looking for Antec or Corsair unless someone can tell me why another one is better/more reliable. Also, could anyone give me a quick reason or two of why 550-650 W wouldn't be enough?

Seasonic manufactures the better lines of psu's for Corsair, they make all of the psu's for XFX and the better ones for PC Power & Cooling. Antec, Silverstone, and Enermax also are solid psu's.

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August 31, 2012 4:50:15 AM

Simple answer the motherboards Asus makes are known for being reliable and currently the highest overclocks records in the whole wide world where done on their motherboards over the years Asus has gain tons of awards and respected highly this doesn't make things better for customers because now the egos have been assured the company name is well known as supposedly the best of the best and it's obivous by the price they charge for their motherboards now they have so many customers their not concerned with competing or care if they lose any customers due to other company's offer better bang for buck motherboards
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August 31, 2012 4:57:54 AM

lotr_freak said:
Why would you say that the Gigabyte board is better than the Asus? Also, is there an Asus board that you would say is comparable to the Gigabyte?

Why would you recommend the Mushkin RAM over Crucial?

I think I would like a 1TB drive over 500 Gb cause I have quite a lot of movies/music. I have heard really good things about Crucial M4 SSD series, why would you say Samsung 830?

I don't think I'm willing to spend 400 dollars on a video card but thanks for the suggestion. I'm debating trying to go with the onboard graphics of whatever MoBo I get since I won't be doing really any gaming until December or January sometime. But I don't know much about the quality of video I need or if onboard graphics would be ok for that. Thoughts?

Last thing, I thought a 500 or 650 W power supply would be sufficient for anything but a high end build. Any specific reason why you recommended a 750 W?

Thanks for the reply!



1. They're both about the same - the Gigabyte includes a few nice extras like dual LAN and an mSATA slot.

2. I don't really have a preference - I just switched to the Mushkin RAM after using Corsair and really like it. G.Skill, Mushkin, Crucial, Kingston, and Corsair are all tier 1 RAM vendors.

3. I actually included a 2TB drive. It's one of the best cost per GB options of any HD you can get on the market. The Crucial and Samsung drives are both excellent - you can't go wrong with either one.

4. On a gaming / general system - always put your leftover funds into getting the best GPU you can get. I know it will be expensive but in the long run it will pay off as your system will have a longer lifespan as the newer games start to take advantage of the nicer GPUs on the market.

5. 750 gives you a bit more headroom should you decide to add a second video card. 650W is fine for a single card solution, but I wouldn't go below 600 on any sort of decent GPU.

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Seasonic manufactures the better lines of psu's for Corsair, they make all of the psu's for XFX and the better ones for PC Power & Cooling. Antec, Silverstone, and Enermax also are solid psu's.


Seasonic makes the MKIIs for PC Power & Cooling, but Superflower manufactures their new high end line (MKIII 1200W Platinum) and they're one of the best around.
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August 31, 2012 5:05:09 AM

g-unit1111 said:
1. They're both about the same - the Gigabyte includes a few nice extras like dual LAN and an mSATA slot.

2. I don't really have a preference - I just switched to the Mushkin RAM after using Corsair and really like it.

3. I actually included a 2TB drive. It's one of the best cost per GB options of any HD you can get on the market. The Crucial and Samsung drives are both excellent - you can't go wrong with either one.

4. On a gaming / general system - always put your leftover funds into getting the best GPU you can get. I know it will be expensive but in the long run it will pay off as your system will have a longer lifespan as the newer games start to take advantage of the nicer GPUs on the market.

5. 750 gives you a bit more headroom should you decide to add a second video card. 650W is fine for a single card solution, but I wouldn't go below 600 on any sort of decent GPU.

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Seasonic manufactures the better lines of psu's for Corsair, they make all of the psu's for XFX and the better ones for PC Power & Cooling. Antec, Silverstone, and Enermax also are solid psu's.


Seasonic makes the MKIIs for PC Power & Cooling, but Superflower manufactures their new high end line (MKIII 1200W Platinum) and they're one of the best around.
:lol:  that's why you shouldn't speak for OP my bad i was way off per your reasons :lol: 
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August 31, 2012 5:29:46 AM

I think that, mathematically, 650W would be fine for Dual-GPU solutions, as long as they are reliable and rated well. Anyone else agree?
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August 31, 2012 5:39:17 AM

g-unit1111 said:
For the parts you suggested - the Gigabyte is a better board than the Asus, the Hyper 212 is far better than Xigmatek, and the Crucial Ballistix is far better RAM than the Corsair XMS.

For that budget I'd recommend something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($407.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1312.89
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-30 16:34 EDT-0400)


I totally agree with this built but I have one thing If u get the MOBO+CPU from microcenter that will cost u only 290 bucks lots of savings that u can invest on other parts anyway its ur choice good luck with ur build but this offer unfortunately isnt available online only in store
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August 31, 2012 5:41:53 AM

bctande1 said:
I think that, mathematically, 650W would be fine for Dual-GPU solutions, as long as they are reliable and rated well. Anyone else agree?
mid high end cards i would agree 7970ghz cf or gtx 680 sli i wouldn't agree my buddy listen to some supposedly pros on a forum about his Seasonic 620w being able to run his x2 680 in sli he can't even overclock them mild and game for more then a few minute before his rig shuts off lol i try to tell him that it wasn't a smart idea and these people that recommended it were far from pros more like noobs but he didn't listen until about a week ago he replaced the psu with a SILVERSTONE Strider Gold Evolution 750W all is well now and no issues ;) 
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August 31, 2012 2:08:16 PM

Why_Me said:
lotr_freak wrote :

Thanks everyone for all the replies, I appreciate all the recommendations.

MoBo: I am fairly firm on Asus or Gigabyte from research I have done, unless someone can tell me why another one would be better/more reliable. I have learned that the Gigabyte I posted is better (benchmark wise) than the Asus I posted, I would be interested in what people think about the Asus P8Z77 -V Pro and Deluxe, they seem to be the higher end version of what I posted and I'm having trouble finding out why exactly they are better.[/quote Asus, Asrock, Gigabyte, MSI...flip a coin because that's pretty much what it comes down to.

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RAM: Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there quite a few brands that would be considered high-end? Some of the RAM recommended here I've never heard of, and I have no idea how to differentiate between them. I was planning on going with Crucial Ballistix unless someone tells me why another brand is better.

G.Skill, Corsair, Mushkin...flip a coin. Also throw in the new Patriot extreme into that group. Just try and get 1.5v RAM.

Quote :

Video Card: Not looking to spend more than $200, since gaming is a low priority (if at all) and right now I don't want to drop more than that on a video card. Would appreciate advice on if using onboard graphics is a viable option.

That would be the 7850.

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Cooler: I see Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo recommended here a couple times, so that helps my decision a lot. Does anyone have any thoughts on Xigmatek coolers though? Specifically AEGIR SD128264 or Dark Knight II.

Xigmatek makes decent coolers but the CM EVO seems a more solid choice imo. Decent fans and they seat nicely.

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Hard Drive: Looking for 1 TB 7200 rpm hard drive and 128 GB SSD.

Sandisk, Samsung, Crucial would be my first choice although there's a few other solid brands out there. You can pick up a Sandisk 128GB for $95 and free shipping at newegg.

Quote :

PSU: Looking for Antec or Corsair unless someone can tell me why another one is better/more reliable. Also, could anyone give me a quick reason or two of why 550-650 W wouldn't be enough?

Seasonic manufactures the better lines of psu's for Corsair, they make all of the psu's for XFX and the better ones for PC Power & Cooling. Antec, Silverstone, and Enermax also are solid psu's.

Thanks!



Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by the 7850? Is that a GPU?

Thanks for the input on MoBo's, RAM, and hard drives. Is there any reason why you wouldn't put WD in that upper tier of hard drives? I've heard really good things about their Caviar black line and they seem comprabable to Samsung in price. And similarly, I've heard that Crucial M4 SSD is a great line, maybe a bit faster/more reliable than Sandisk or Samsung. True?

How much do the PLUS 80 bronze/silver/gold ratings mean for PSU? Could you recommenda solid Antec or Corsair?

Thank you!
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August 31, 2012 2:29:01 PM

g-unit1111 said:
1. They're both about the same - the Gigabyte includes a few nice extras like dual LAN and an mSATA slot.

2. I don't really have a preference - I just switched to the Mushkin RAM after using Corsair and really like it. G.Skill, Mushkin, Crucial, Kingston, and Corsair are all tier 1 RAM vendors.

3. I actually included a 2TB drive. It's one of the best cost per GB options of any HD you can get on the market. The Crucial and Samsung drives are both excellent - you can't go wrong with either one.

4. On a gaming / general system - always put your leftover funds into getting the best GPU you can get. I know it will be expensive but in the long run it will pay off as your system will have a longer lifespan as the newer games start to take advantage of the nicer GPUs on the market.

5. 750 gives you a bit more headroom should you decide to add a second video card. 650W is fine for a single card solution, but I wouldn't go below 600 on any sort of decent GPU.

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Seasonic manufactures the better lines of psu's for Corsair, they make all of the psu's for XFX and the better ones for PC Power & Cooling. Antec, Silverstone, and Enermax also are solid psu's.


Seasonic makes the MKIIs for PC Power & Cooling, but Superflower manufactures their new high end line (MKIII 1200W Platinum) and they're one of the best around.


Thanks, this is really helpful. I could possibly go to a 2TB HD but I would like to stick with 7200rpm.

For someone who does minimal gaming, is a GPU worth that cost? If I did buy one it would he $200 or less.

I am almost positive I am never going to invest in 2 graphics cards so am I good with 650 W?
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August 31, 2012 2:32:47 PM

machmach_3 said:
I totally agree with this built but I have one thing If u get the MOBO+CPU from microcenter that will cost u only 290 bucks lots of savings that u can invest on other parts anyway its ur choice good luck with ur build but this offer unfortunately isnt available online only in store


I tried to find the combo offer at the closest microcenter to me (Denver) but couldn't find it.

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September 2, 2012 2:44:10 AM

Has anyone else had success going to Microcenter and buying parts there? It looks significantly cheaper than online for most things....
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September 2, 2012 3:26:20 AM

I bought my last rig on august 1st from new jersey microcenter u can
only buy the 3570k and mobo from store only cant be shipped online also try to call them
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September 2, 2012 4:02:04 AM

There is a Microcenter store in Denver, about 1 1/2 hours from me. I was thinking of going down there and just buying all the parts I need (that they have) from them, since it will save me 100+ dollars.
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September 2, 2012 10:37:57 PM

bigcyco1 said:
mid high end cards i would agree 7970ghz cf or gtx 680 sli i wouldn't agree my buddy listen to some supposedly pros on a forum about his Seasonic 620w being able to run his x2 680 in sli he can't even overclock them mild and game for more then a few minute before his rig shuts off lol i try to tell him that it wasn't a smart idea and these people that recommended it were far from pros more like noobs but he didn't listen until about a week ago he replaced the psu with a SILVERSTONE Strider Gold Evolution 750W all is well now and no issues ;) 


Haha I know for a 680 that a 650w solution definitely wouldn't work
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September 4, 2012 4:37:28 AM

lotr_freak said:
There is a Microcenter store in Denver, about 1 1/2 hours from me. I was thinking of going down there and just buying all the parts I need (that they have) from them, since it will save me 100+ dollars.


great choice check their september magazine on their website and scroll down about 20 pages till u find processor and mobo also plz check for ur parts if it is available online through selecting denver your store if it isnt in stock u can chose in store pick up option costs nothing to make only single trip to store coz my 670 gtx windforce wasnt in NJ paterson and I chose in store pick up and they shipped it to my local store from their warehouse here are my parts I bought

CPU:i5 2500k *there was bundle savings with the 2500k and Z77 in july but it is no longer available for 160$ u will have to get 3570k for 190$

MOBO:z77mx-d3h (microatx) for 80$ I hope u get the z77x-d3h (atx) I think it will be 70$ after rebate

PSU:antec 750w HCG 75$ u can save in the psu by choosing other than this one

GFX card:GIGABYTE GTX 670oc windforce 3x 430$ u canget it from newegg for 400$

RAM:crucial ballistic sport 8gb DDR3 1600 for 43$

Case:Zalman Z9 after rebate 29$

total: 808$ but u must get gfx card from newegg and z77x-d3h saves 10$.U can save more as I told u by choosing different psu anyway its ur choice and good luck :D 

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September 14, 2012 4:47:15 AM

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