Intel I7 3770 vs. 8350 Vishera for gaming

fx 8350

i7 3770

FX 8350 for one reason.

The i7 represents bad value to performance in gaming terms, not discernably faster and costs around $150 more plus the setup costs. For gaming the FX 8350 costs less and delivers comparible performance to a 3570K at the same price point. If I were you id look at a i5 3570 or 3550 or the like or a FX 8350/8320

He asked which CPU will give better performance.
And the answer is the Core i7.
There shouldn't really be a discussion about it the Core i7 will be faster 95% of the time.

It will but it will cost twice as much and deliver similar gaming performance to a i5/FX.

I get my photos.

Not really.

If we look at the benchmarks the i7 is the superior CPU.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-a...

i5-3570k has the best value though, with almost the same price as the FX 8350.

Yeah, strictly speaking the i7 has better performance. However, that doesn't mean it's necessarily the better purchase - certainly not the best.

In many gaming synthetics those that are CPU orientated highlight the generation gap between AMD and Intel which is true but in pure numbers and notably GPU limited titles the AMD systems are pushing similar FPS to intels $1100 parts, it dispels the myth that AMD bottlenecks GPU's but more importantly in CPU orientation AMD will be slower but how that matters in actual real FPS not what these reviewers use corrolates somewhere between 5-10FPS tops between a i7 and a FX/i5 varying.

It has been done to death by every PC magazine the i7 for gaming represents the worst value/performance and I am tired of going through the same retort.

The OP asks which one is better, not which one has the best value. FX 8350 has bad value too compared to equally priced Intel offers.

The reason to buy a Core i7-3770k is for the Hyper Threading technology (HT or HTT). Since games do not use HT there is no real reason to by an i7-3770k unless you use other programs that can make use of HT.

So...

According Newegg... the FX-8350 is currently selling for $200 while the Core i5-3570k is selling for $230.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Between the two I would choose the i5-3570k. It offers better performance and consumes less power than the FX-8350. About 80w on a full load, around ~40w to ~50w less on a moderate load.

HT is hyper-transport, AMD uses it for the system bus, also knows as HT link.

As far as the op's question, the I7 is faster, thats why its $150 more.

is it $150 faster? .. no.

For a gaming machine? The i5-3570k. For a work machine that games? The i7-3770k.

the i7 was getting bottlenecked, as were the i5 and i3. the fx, however, was bottlenecked. more so then an i3.

OP, get an i3...

Well, if we look at several benchmarks it's a different story.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-a...

lol, even with the same game, the story changes.

http://www.techspot.com/review/615-far-cry-3-performanc...

>i3 not in ONE of these
>amd geting there a$$ kicked by a crap ton in exactly 5 of the 6 (the 5 that were obvious below)







sooo... whom has the messed up set of data here?


P.S. this is the only one that amd is not geting its arse kicked by over 20 fps.

ya, instead the I3 is getting its ass kicked, way to prove your point.

you provided ONE sorce, just as i have. this is the only one of the benchmarks that had an i3 in it.


it depends on the tester, honestly. even in the same games they do difrent things.

And some non-image ownage of the I3. http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3314/10/amd-fx-8350--83...


try 9.

Where is the I3 in all of this? between the 4300 and 6300 usually, well below the 8350 most of the time.

And not even close to the I7 3770 in question.

I3 over the I7 ... seriously??

^ He said it.

Guys, I just want to let you know that I found an i7 for $229 at microcenter. So that means it's only like $60 difference or something. I might just end up going with the I7.

For gaming dont bother getting the I7 for gaming, get an I5 3570K and enjoy the same frames as the I7. Unfortunately AMDs gaming performance is lacking these days for any game that is moderately CPU intensive.

I guess there weren't enough posts like this already?  

Depends on what gaming is done, if the OP is interested in GPU orientated titles like PS2, BF3, CODBOII etc then the difference between a FX8350 and i7 3960/70X is a mere few FPS, if you are looking at CPU orientated RTS titles then Intel have the advantage and nobody is denying that. While Vishera is a massive step forward for AMD it is realistically 2 Generations back in x86 performance, but x86 is not always the determining factor in gaming.

Metro 2033 is the best synthetic available and it clearly shows AMD doing well in CPU and GPU performance at a much lower cost. Let me put it to you like this, if a AMD setup can max out 2033 at 1080 or better and run well it will run any game really well as to how much more you need and willing to pay will determine how necessary a intel is.

The AMD 8350 Vishera scales its speed and performance based of cpu demand. That gives it a slower speed when handling low demand tasks, and handling one task at a time. The i7 handles those tasks much better. However, when tested at high demand settings, as well as multi-tasking, the 3850 does surpass the i7. Again, the reason for that is in the 3870 architecture they set it up to slow down it's speed to reduce power consumption, and throttles the speed according to the demand being put on the processor. If you are playing games with the settings very high, with AA and 16x Antistropic filtering, or multi-tasking often, then the 3850 is the cpu for you. If you do not, then you want the i7.

A good show of this data is this test and review:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1285/pg1/amd-fx-8...

Not only does it show the multi-tasking capabilities of the 8 Core FX series processors, but it shows it using older versions of the 8 Core FX series cpu.

interesting

To directly answer your question the I7 is the better processor.

Yes i7 3770k is better choice it only has 4 cores but it has pci-e 3.0 that 8350 don,t have & all new video card ,s like the hd7970 have pci-e 3.0 for faster gaming here,s the specs on 3770k good luck

With faster, intelligent, multi-core technology that applies processing power where it's needed most, Intel Core i7 processors deliver an incredible breakthrough in PC performance. They are the best desktop processors on the planet. You'll multitask applications faster and unleash incredible digital media creation. And you'll experience maximum performance for everything you do.



Main Specifications

•Processor

•Type / Form Factor: Intel Core i7 3770K

•Number of Cores: Quad-Core

•Number of Threads: 8 threads

•Cache: 8 MB

•Cache Memory Details: L3 - 8 MB

•64-bit Computing: Yes

•Clock Speed: 3.5 GHz

•Max Turbo Speed: 3.9 GHz

•Compatible Processor Socket: LGA1155 Socket

•Manufacturing Process: 22 nm

•Thermal Design Power: 77 W

•Architecture Features: Hyper-Threading Technology, integrated memory controller, Intel Virtualization Technology, Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0, Intel Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX), Intel AES New Instructions (AES-NI)

•Cache Memory Installed Size: 8 MB

Integrated Graphics

•Type: Intel HD Graphics 4000

•Base Frequency: 850 MHz

•Max Dynamic Frequency: 1150 MHz

•Features:

Intel Clear Video HD Technology , InTRU 3D Technology, Intel Wireless Display (WiDi), Intel Insider, Intel Quick Sync Video 2.0

Simple answer: 8350 vs i7 = i7 wins.

However i7 is a waste of money if you plan on gaming.

So this thread should be another "8350 vs 3570k!?!!" for the 10 millionth time.

You should be looking at the 3570 or 8350 for gaming, not the i7.

i7 has hyper threading witch has no value in gaming as games arent coded to use hyper-threading and can actually give less performance when turned on.

pci-express 3.0 is a gimmick. theres no real world difference with that and 2.0 at the moment and for somethime to come, honestly i dunno why they made 3.0 2.0 was working fine.

3770 cost:330$+tax and the 8350=199. 3570k= 220$.

gaming. goes in this order. 3770k. than 3570k than 8350. but theres still close in performance depending on the game, and having 8cores for 200$ is an amazing deal.

of course if you want pure gaming performance and dont care about multi-tasking like a madman than 3570k it is. 3770k shouldnt even be considered for gaming as its properties aka. 4ht cores is more for software developpement, adobe photoshop. video editing etc, software that can use ht quality.

very simple to understand if you do not buy a dictionnary