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August 31, 2012 6:39:38 AM

First time building a system, and starting it off with a bang. Hopefuly you fine people can lend me some of your knowledge :bounce: 

Approximate Purchase Date: Whenever I can afford it. The answers I get here will confirm a timeline.

Budget Range: Whatever it takes. I’m living with zero bills (still in high school) and a part time job so I can save as much as I need to. This will be an enthusiast level build.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: High level gaming, Autodesk/CAD, Movie Watching, Internet Surfing

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, see below.

Parts to Upgrade: None

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: This is my first ever build, but from the reviews I have read Newegg is best for me. I don’t believe they charge me any tax because of where I live.

Location: Salem, Oregon, United States

Parts Preferences: Intel, NVidia, Asus, Cooler Master, Corsair

Overclocking: Open to the Idea, but I would need guidance to do so.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe in the future

Your Monitor Resolution: Wanting to get this:
Asus VE248H Black 24" 2ms
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Additional Comments: I’m not necessarily looking for the best bang for my buck, but I don’t want to get to overboard with this (>$2,500). My dream would be to run Skyrim on ultra with a good texture redo.

Why Are You Upgrading: I have previously used a laptop for my gaming (Dell Studio) and its simply not good enough to run higher end games. Friends as well as me are moving away from consoles, and I want to be part of that. My laptop also can’t run CAD, which I need. I also have loads o’ money with zero responsibilities.

I have selected everything I think I want for the system, but if I thought it was perfect I wouldn’t be asking here =D

Case: Cooler Master HAF x 942 ($200)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: Asus Maximus V Formula ($290)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel i7 3770k Ivy Bridge 3.5ghz ($340)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000w ($175)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA Geforce GTX 680 2GB ($510)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2x8GB) ($160)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage:
Corsair Force Series 120gb SATA III SSD ($120)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB HDD ($110)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CD Reader: LITE-ON 12x Blu-ray Burner ($110)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also buying a Keyboard, Mouse, and Headset. Not thinking that those matter much as long as they work.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me guys!

-VG
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August 31, 2012 7:04:18 AM

Knock that motherboard down to a Z77 Extreme4 and you'll save a whole bunch of money. You don't need the extra 300mhz or so it might let you hit. You don't have to get the most expensive thing just because it's there.
In the same vein, take an 850W PSU (enough for two 680s) and probably a cheaper case. The case should be chosen by stylistic preference. Feel free to get something below $100 if it catches your eye.

Are you planning to use multiple monitors or get a 120Hz one for 3D? If not, there's no reason to spend the kind of money you're talking about spending. You might as well save your cash for your next upgrade or go out to a nice restaurant or something, or get yourself some wicked speakers. I love my M-Audio BX5a's.

Keyboards, mice and headsets certainly do matter! Remember that gaming isn't about hitting the highest possible settings; it's about having the best possible experience. My Daskeyboard is my favorite piece of technology (slightly above those M-Audios). An $80 Razer BlackWidow would work roughly as well, though. I really recommend that you get a mechanical keyboard; it makes typing a joy. I like my Razer DeathAdder, too. The devices that connect you to your computer are as important as the computer itself.
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August 31, 2012 9:45:00 AM

If you don't care much about the money. Go for the build you posted. It's great!
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August 31, 2012 12:56:52 PM

If you're still in high school and don't care about a couple of hundred dollars down the drain, you need to work out your priorities.
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August 31, 2012 1:07:16 PM

I'm not a computer whiz, but I have to say, keyboard, mouse and headset are very important. 20% of the cost of my build is being spent on keyboard, mouse and headset.

Whats the point of having a high spec pc if the keyboard and mouse are uncomfortable? and whats the point of having a high spec pc if the headset gives bad sound?

You really need to put a portion of your budget for those things.

I've bought tritton AX pros, Razer Blackwidow keyboard and r.a.t 7 mouse, I also got them at discount prices, so they would have easily been 25% of my budget otherwise.
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August 31, 2012 4:05:17 PM

Decide for yourself whether you need a microphone or surround sound. If not, there are many great pairs of headphones out there that sound much better than gaming headsets and are cheaper too. I use Sony MDR-V6s.
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August 31, 2012 6:17:02 PM

Ninja'ed! But yes, I will be using a headset for sound. The monitor also comes with speakers as a side note, but I doubt those will be of any quailty.

-VG
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August 31, 2012 6:17:33 PM

Alright since you guys asked I guess I shall post my picks for keyboard and mouse (and headset). Over spending again, but I think its worth the price.

Keyboard: Azio Levetron Mech5 ($95)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse: Logitech G9x Black ($100)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Headset: Logitech G35 ($95)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

also, kajabla: I checked into what you said, and I agree and disagree with you. I think the Formulas onboard wifi and better audio are worth the price increase to me personally. I also think the Formula is a better quality board in general.
I have no need for a set of speakers, as I am buying a headset.
And I cant realy deffend my choice on monitor, I just think Asus is better quality and its got a narrow bezzel.
Good stuff though.

-VG
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August 31, 2012 6:26:26 PM

They'll definitely not be worth ever turning on.
Note that that keyboard has Cherry Black switches, which are not clickety. Know what you're getting into. I like Browns and Blues about equally. Browns are "silent", but only if you're a light typer. I'm a high-speed key masher, so a Cherry Brown keyboard is about the same volume as a Blue when I'm using it.
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August 31, 2012 6:40:23 PM

Lemme try a setup =P
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August 31, 2012 6:51:40 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gaGJ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gaGJ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gaGJ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.00 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($389.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 850W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($145.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHES212-08 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($64.99 @ CompUSA)
Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: AZIO Levetron Mech5 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G9x Wired Laser Mouse ($62.68 @ Amazon)
Other: Logitech Headset ($95.00)
Total: $2031.55
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-31 14:50 EDT-0400)

Here's my take..

I got you a 256GB SSD.
Solid 850W Silver PSU
GTX 670 only beacause the 680 is a not that much better at all.. You'd be wasting a lot of your money on a 680
Your monitor, mouse, keyboard, headset, all that at 2031$

What do you guys think?
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August 31, 2012 7:50:20 PM

Sucks when someone blows your picks out of the water with logic. Alright heres my thoughts, but remember im new to this:

I really like my case. I know im spending an extra hundred more than I need to on it, but I think it will last for my next several builds. Plus it gives me the option of upgrading to whatever I want in the future, regardless of size. Its also packing all the cooling I will ever need, agiain with options to water cool in the future.

Ill submit to your ideas about the 670. They seem pretty equal, at least not enough to make the jump in price. What I dont like however is gagabyte, but thats a personal thing. Im sure I can find another 670 for about the same price.

I like your thoughts about the Power supply to, and I like corsair. Ill swap that on my list right away.

the upgrade in SSD is nice, again ill swap that on my list. Same goes for the HDD, but Im not sure about seagate. There was a time (apparently, so I have heard) that people hated seagates. maby that has passed now.

And fianlly I hate to admit that im wrong about the mother board. Part of the reason (Stupidly) I want it is because its a red and black theme, which matches the rest of the build. It would seem however that the good motherboards are not perfectly what I am looking for. Also, how many slots are good? Seems the question to ask, but maby im missing something. I want atleast 2 PCI 3.0 slots for future SLI, but after that im not sure what I need (want). Not sure what to do with those ports.

Thanks for the help bctande.
-VG
PS: love the price check tool you linked. thanks.


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August 31, 2012 8:12:49 PM

thatirishman said:
Sucks when someone blows your picks out of the water with logic. Alright heres my thoughts, but remember im new to this:

I really like my case. I know im spending an extra hundred more than I need to on it, but I think it will last for my next several builds. Plus it gives me the option of upgrading to whatever I want in the future, regardless of size. Its also packing all the cooling I will ever need, agiain with options to water cool in the future.

Ill submit to your ideas about the 670. They seem pretty equal, at least not enough to make the jump in price. What I dont like however is gagabyte, but thats a personal thing. Im sure I can find another 670 for about the same price.

I like your thoughts about the Power supply to, and I like corsair. Ill swap that on my list right away.

the upgrade in SSD is nice, again ill swap that on my list. Same goes for the HDD, but Im not sure about seagate. There was a time (apparently, so I have heard) that people hated seagates. maby that has passed now.

And fianlly I hate to admit that im wrong about the mother board. Part of the reason (Stupidly) I want it is because its a red and black theme, which matches the rest of the build. It would seem however that the good motherboards are not perfectly what I am looking for. Also, how many slots are good? Seems the question to ask, but maby im missing something. I want atleast 2 PCI 3.0 slots for future SLI, but after that im not sure what I need (want). Not sure what to do with those ports.

Thanks for the help bctande.
-VG
PS: love the price check tool you linked. thanks.


"Blows picks out of the water" -- Were all here to help haha were not against each other :) 

Case - As far as size, I ensure you that the 922 supplies ample room for whatever additions you need. The older 912 is arguably one of the best gaming cases for the value and the 922 continues the tradition of VERY ample space, excellent air flow (HAF stands for "high air flow"). If you just prefer the aesthetic of your case, we can go with it, no problem.

670 - I agree. You can definitely OC the Tri-Fanned Gigabyte 670 to match 680 speeds, no doubt.

PSU - Your completely right there.

Seagate - I would definitely trust this Seagate drive. I'm afraid that I'm ignorant to Seagate's past, but all I've heard about this drive is good news. the WD alternative would be a 1TB 7200RPM.

MOBO - I can see that you prefer the aesthetics of the Maximus V Formula, and you can go with it if you believe the aestheic value is worth more the 120+ price premium. The one you chose is really for extreme level enthusiasts, usually running multiple montors, in need of specific features that most people don't need. The one I chose you has more than enough SATA 2 ports for your HDD, and 2 SATA III ports for SSDs. And it has 6 USB 3.0 ports as well as an award-winning power deliver system --- Ultra Durable 4. It has 2 PCIE 3.0 ports for SLIing so you can do that when needed !

It's been a pleasure helping you ! :p  If you have any questions just say and if not, have fun building your system ! Just build one myself 3 days ago
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August 31, 2012 8:37:02 PM

And remember to choose a Best Answer!
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August 31, 2012 8:53:22 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Tower-Gaming-CC-9... $118.98 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO750W-Semi-Modular-80Plus-S... $111.71 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $101.71
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus 750 Watt Power Supply (Silver)

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-CrossFireX-DispayPort-Mo... $149.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA 1155 AMD CrossFireX/NVIDIA SLI W/ HDMI,DVI,DispayPort Dual UEFI BIOS ATX Motherboard GA-Z77X-UD3H

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Pro... $229.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-120mm-RR-212E... $32.32 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-Extreme-Masters-PC... $46.50 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Patriot Memory Intel Extreme Masters 8 GB (2 x 4GB) PC3-12800 CL9 Memory Kit - PVI38G160C9K

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Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 Version C (Black)

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Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB SATA III 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive - WD5000AAKX

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-2-5-Inch-Solid-SDSSDP-128... $89.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk 128 GB 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive (SDSSDP-128G- G25)

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-N670-... $409.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 OC 2GB GDDR5 2DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card N670 PE 2GD5/OC

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VS238H-P-23-Inch-Full-HD-Mon... $174.48 + $0.00 shipping
Asus VS238H-P 23-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor | LED Backlit with 50,000,000:1 ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio; Full 1080P with HDMI

Total: $1,435.74 *includes shipping does but not include rebates


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_670_Power_Ed... <----- review of that MSI card w/benchmarks
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August 31, 2012 9:05:09 PM

Why_Me said:
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Tower-Gaming-CC-9... $118.98 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO750W-Semi-Modular-80Plus-S... $111.71 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $101.71
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus 750 Watt Power Supply (Silver)

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-CrossFireX-DispayPort-Mo... $149.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA 1155 AMD CrossFireX/NVIDIA SLI W/ HDMI,DVI,DispayPort Dual UEFI BIOS ATX Motherboard GA-Z77X-UD3H

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Pro... $229.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-120mm-RR-212E... $32.32 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-Extreme-Masters-PC... $46.50 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Patriot Memory Intel Extreme Masters 8 GB (2 x 4GB) PC3-12800 CL9 Memory Kit - PVI38G160C9K

http://www.amazon.com/Lite--Super-AllWrite-Layer-Drive/... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 Version C (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Cache-Desk... $67.83 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB SATA III 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive - WD5000AAKX

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-2-5-Inch-Solid-SDSSDP-128... $89.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk 128 GB 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive (SDSSDP-128G- G25)

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-N670-... $409.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 OC 2GB GDDR5 2DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card N670 PE 2GD5/OC

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VS238H-P-23-Inch-Full-HD-Mon... $174.48 + $0.00 shipping
Asus VS238H-P 23-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor | LED Backlit with 50,000,000:1 ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio; Full 1080P with HDMI

Total: $1,435.74 *includes shipping does but not include rebates


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_670_Power_Ed... <----- review of that MSI card w/benchmarks


Nice build !

However, I just want to point out a few things

1 - CPU - He requested a 3770k -- He's going to be doing more work oriented apps like AutoCAD.
2- I think 16GB of RAM would be more appropriate, seeing how 8GB is too small for multi-tasking while gaming,
3- You could get a better HDD at that price
4- For his budget, I think you could up the SSD as well.
5- You forgot to add his mouse/headset/keyboard combo that he requested.



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September 2, 2012 6:06:56 AM

Best answer selected by thatirishman.
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September 2, 2012 6:16:48 AM

Looks amazing :) 

have fun!
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