Is the 460 GTX Still the Best @ $139?

I'm looking to upgrade from an Nvidia 9800 GT. I love MSI cards and I'm currently looking at these two..

MSI N460GTX-M2D1GD5/OC2 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

MSI N550GTX-Ti Cyclone OC GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Both are $139.99. The 550 has better specs on paper, but I know the 460 has always been better even though it's older. Is the 460 still the better bet?

The other model card I have considered is the new GeForce GTX 560 SE, though MSI doesn't make one yet.

This will be going in a Dell Precision T3400 (Core2 Extreme 3.0Ghz, 8GB DDR2 800, Windows 7 64bit).

Thoughts, opinions?
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  1. I suggest you up the budget and look at better performing cards. GTX 560 1Gb minimum IMO
  2. The 256bit GTX460 is a nice strong card, but the 192bit version is somewhat crippled by comparison. Assuming you are not partial to nVidia, a HD6850 or HD7770 would be a better choice, especially if you still have your Dell OEM PSU.
  3. 6870 is 150 and is better, maybe if you upped it to 230 and go for a 7850 or if you have the PSU a GTX480 which is around 210 but a power hog no less
  4. I have replaced the stock power supply with a 600w ocZ. Forgot to post that in my specs, sorry.

    I'm more familiar with Nvidia, that is what I have always used. I do have some low end AMD/ATI cards (like the 6670) in other PCs, but I have never been very impressed with their drivers.

    I put a GTX460 Hawk in a buddies PC and he loves it, but now that I'm thinking about it, I'm 99% sure that was the 256bit version.

    I would really like to stay under $150-175 if possible. I'm definitely not looking for anything over $200. Just don't have the disposable income for that.
  5. that $25 will go a loooong way to a much better card - I have SLI GTX 460OC 256 bit EVGA and PNY and I love them
  6. Note that the 460s you list are not the original 192 bit 460, but the 460 V2. This means that it is based off of GF114, not GF104. Why does this matter? Because now the core and memory clocks are higher and can be overclocked even more. What resolution are you planning to game at? I have the Gigabyte version of the 460 you are looking at (it was a tossup between the two) and it is a very competent card, particularly at 1680x1050 and lower.
  7. If you really want 256 bit, this refurbished evga card is decent, and even has a 1 year warranty:
  8. I'm not so much set in stone on the 460, though that 256bit refurb is pretty tempting. I was just wondering if that was still the best card at the price range I'm looking in. I know AMD seems to have a better selection at this price range. But I had problem with their drivers in the pretty recent past.

    If I wait a few weeks I could probably bump up to the MSI N560GTX-M2D1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

    I will be gaming at 1920 x 1080 on a 23" Asus VH238H Monitor.
  9. well yeah then youre spot on with a GTX460, cause the 480 will deliver alot more for 210 but its not in your budget
  10. Do you think it's worth waiting a few weeks for the 560? Rather than get the 460 now?
  11. If you end up considering the 7770 due to the power supply then remember that it is close to the performance of a stock gtx460 but a older 256bit version is nothing to pass up when it is overclocked. I own one of the early models that came out two years ago and it is still beast for it's size. The GF114 is a slightly better gpu than the old gf104 and does hit higher clocks but barely. 850-900mhz is typical for a 256bit gtx460 and at best a 560ti manages 1050mhz.
  12. If you can comfortably wait, I think a GTX560 (whether or not -Ti) would be worthwhile over a 192bit GTX460.
    I don't think you should make a purchasing decision based on overclocking though. Results vary considerably. You might consider OC reputation in general, but anything specific should be thought of as a bonus, as there are no sure things. I'd especially think that of a refurb or open box, as someone may have returned it because it didn't OC well.
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