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My First Build: $800 Gaming Rig and How Good Is It?

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August 31, 2012 9:18:47 PM

Case: Rosewill Blackhawk Mid Tower
(Two Extra Fans, both 7.99 120mm, 8 fan's total including stock)
Mother Board: ASRock Extreme 4 Z77
CPU: I5-2400
Heatsink and Fan: Rosewill RCX-Z300
(Arctic Silver 5)
Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws 8gb (2x4gb) 1600
Video Card: HIS IceQ X Radeon 7850 2GB
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500gb 7200rpm
DvD Burner: Asus DRW
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W

With all the combo's plus shipping I have I'm paying $797, rounded up of course. I have been very active recently trying to figure out all of which is the best I can get, from personal friends to on hear getting many different opinions as well as my own personal research on the web. I think for just under $800 I can't get a better long term rig than this.

I feel that this case can last me many years as it is a bigger sized mid tower and with all the extra fans if I wish to overclock down the road I can. I could go cheaper but I would be sacrificing convenience and forcing me to probably buy a better case down the road if I did. I feel for $90 that this case is perfect. Bundled with the power supply on Newegg, it really can't get much better.

The hard drive is all I really need for now until an upgrade down the road with SSD's or another Hard drive. The ram is what I think to be good basic ram that will do its job very well. With the board I can just put more in down the road as needed. Speaking of the board I have been hearing a lot of good good things about ASRock motherboards lately so thought I would start out with them. The Z77 has everything on it that I need for a cheaper end motherboard so that is why I got it instead of a cheaper Z68, mainly for the internal usb 3.0 as my case as front plugins for it.

Asus burner because the combo with processor, simple as that. Graphics card mainly because I know it will get the job done, the HIS cards are known for being cool under load and its sitting at $199 right now only to get cheaper. The heatsink is just because I don't trust the stock and mainly of my friends don't either so I got something that was lower price with lots of good reviews.

Last the Power Supply. I know a lot of you are going to say I don't need a 650 watt power supply however the biggest reason I'm getting it is for the combo deal with the case. Its partially modular and I don't think I would want anything else unless its fully modular and this power supply will last me for a long time seeing as I won't be using most of its potential anyway unless I slightly overclock a few items. Speaking of overclocking. I have no big plans on overclocking with this first rig until I have done enough research to do so with future rigs, or second rig.

I think I will leave it at that. Let me know what you guys think as I have told you guy's what I think. I have put a ton of time into this rig trying to figure out what is what. Also if you would give this rig a 1 to 10 rating (1 being best) as far as a $800 dollar rig goes just let me know somewhere in your reply.

Thanks from your friendly neighborhood Astrallounge.
August 31, 2012 10:08:48 PM

-Doesn't have a SSD or hybrid/cache. It's important for overall OS responsiveness
-Should have gotten an i5-3450 for like the same price.
-8 fans is overkill and is probably pretty loud.
-You got a Z77 board, but didn't get a K processor. Might as well have gotten a H77 and saved money.


Those are all my complaints Spider-man... Oh wait I mean Astrallounge.

Oh ya for $800 I would give it a 9/10.

Was it 800 including W7?
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August 31, 2012 10:35:15 PM

The reason why I selected this motherboard was for longevity and the ability to keep it and get something worth upgrading down the road. I have down a few threads about the i5-2400 vs other i5, even the i5-2340 and gotten nothing but people saying that the 2400 is the better processor.

8 fan's I don't think is a big deal because it will keep everything running cooler longer. Maybe noise will or won't be a factor, I will have to find out that the hard way. Though that is why there are fan controller's that I can buy.

Though SSD cards are nice, they are really really expensive right now and even without them someone with patience is going to be just fine. It doesn't hurt gaming performance, just the waiting for the game to start. That can easily be fixed down the road. I find SSD cards to be more of your favorite candy treat, it is extremely awesome to have but you honestly could go without.
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September 1, 2012 12:40:30 AM

No, SSDs are very important...

Z77 won't help you upgrade... Haswell (Intel processors after Ivy Bridge) will change the socket type, rendering your Z77 useless. It will only be able to use sandy and ivy bridge.

You will have the exact same longevity as a $110 H77 atx size.
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September 1, 2012 12:49:42 AM

Does anyone else really have a say in this manner? Would really like to see a discussion out of this if possible. I'm the novice here so would like to hear multiple opinions.

Edit: I would also like to input that the H77 typically have less features than the Z77 boards, which is something that bugs me as well. Unless somehow were talking as if my Processor is going to be somehow hurt by difference in board I really don't see a point in downgrading to a board that doesn't have the same amount of features for the price. I'm also only paying $114 for the board that I have.
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September 1, 2012 1:21:48 AM

If this is strictly a gaming rig, you could just as well go with an i3-2120 and an H77 board. With the money saved you might be able to swing a 660ti, 670, or 7970 gpu. Don't get me wrong, the 7850 is a fine gpu, but if the focus is gamig then the priority should be to get the best gpu possible within your budget.

What features on the Z77 board do you feel you need that an H77 does not have? No sense in paying for things you will probably never use. Like it was already stated, if you have no plans to overclock then the Z77 is not really necessary. And as also been stated, there is no upgrade path with Haswell around the corner.

Also, you should rethink about an SSD or cache drive. You really will love the performance.

Just my thoughts. You have a good build there (I give it 8/10) and you should be happy with it.
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September 1, 2012 1:52:29 AM

See I originally was set on the i3 2120 but everyone is telling me to upgrade to the i5's instead of the 2120 even though I see great things out of the 2120. Right now I'm sitting on a i5 3450, but am still tempted to the 2120 as I know it is good processor.

I can't really stick with getting a SSD for budget reasons and I'm a very patient man. I was re looking at the H77 and maybe I will. Just trying to get the best I can for 800$ that I can. This rig will by my rig for a few years.
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Anonymous
September 1, 2012 3:10:00 AM

you NEED a better GPU with your budget!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE2-GP 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $798.41
Mail-in Rebates: $-25.00
Total: $773.41
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-31 23:11 EDT-0400)

or for a few bucks more get:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE2-GP 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $828.42
Mail-in Rebates: $-25.00
Total: $803.42
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-31 23:14 EDT-0400)
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Anonymous
September 1, 2012 3:18:01 AM

Astralman said:
How about the H77 AsRock pro4/mvp mother board? I don't plan on doing any overclocking anyway.

thats fine IMO. just keep an i5 and a 7870 in the build; with an $800 budget no reason not to.
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September 1, 2012 3:18:15 AM

How about the H77 AsRock pro4/mvp mother board? I don't plan on doing any overclocking anyway.
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September 1, 2012 3:26:55 AM

I've been told there is little difference between the 7850 or the 7870, by many people mind you. Seeing as I don't plan on overclocking what would be the best i5 to get for the money?
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Anonymous
September 1, 2012 3:31:10 AM

Astralman said:
I've been told there is little difference between the 7850 or the 7870, by many people mind you. Seeing as I don't plan on overclocking what would be the best i5 to get for the money?

so i guess 15% for many people is not a big difference . . . :??: 


i would suggest and go with the 3450 if it was my money.
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September 1, 2012 3:48:34 AM

Yea, but when I see actual fps showing's it always seems to be around 8 fps difference average from what I've seen in charts. Honestly I would rather get a 7850 save the 60 bucks and just wait a year or so and get a really good graphics card. That with the build I have now I'm under even that 773 price you gave with some better stuff other than the graphics card.
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September 1, 2012 3:55:02 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($307.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill 530W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $811.96
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-01 00:00 EDT-0400)

EDIT -- Ouch, Didn't see the other posts :o 

O well ..
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September 1, 2012 4:19:16 AM

Yeah, I would really like to stay under $800. Budget really wouldn't allow for anything above that. Though will take a look at that motherboard.
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Anonymous
September 1, 2012 4:31:21 AM

Astralman said:
Yea, but when I see actual fps showing's it always seems to be around 8 fps difference average from what I've seen in charts. Honestly I would rather get a 7850 save the 60 bucks and just wait a year or so and get a really good graphics card. That with the build I have now I'm under even that 773 price you gave with some better stuff other than the graphics card.


you can get a 7870 for a lot less than a $60 difference.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=81,82,110&s...
cheapest 7850 $197
cheapest 7870 $220
$23 dollar difference which is 11% making the 15% performance difference (the chart was just reference cards) cost effective.

just putting that out there, but you seem to have done your research and have your reasons. though i will state that a case and PSU isn't going to increase your performance, except in the instance of overclocking and the case provides better cooling. again, just putting that out there.
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September 1, 2012 4:39:34 AM

Yea, the Case is more so because of what I can do with it over a long period of time. I'm sure it is a midtower that will be able to do a lot for me over the years with all the fans and customization I can do to the inside. Wish there was more room on the back plate but maybe I will get a custom one down the road if possible.
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Anonymous
September 1, 2012 4:45:15 AM

Astralman said:
Yea, the Case is more so because of what I can do with it over a long period of time. I'm sure it is a midtower that will be able to do a lot for me over the years with all the fans and customization I can do to the inside. Wish there was more room on the back plate but maybe I will get a custom one down the road if possible.

well, you asked about the H77 AsRock pro4/mvp. so then swap that out in your build in the first post and go with that. you seem to have rationally thought out what you're doing and that is better than 90% of the people that ask for help.
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September 3, 2012 2:01:14 AM

Case: Rosewill Blackhawk Mid Tower
(Two Extra Fans, both 7.99 120mm, 8 fan's total including stock)
Mother Board: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP
CPU: I5-3450 IB
Heatsink and Fan: Rosewill RCX-Z300
(Arctic Silver 5)
Ram: G.Skill Sniper 8gb (2x4gb) 1600
Video Card: XFX FX 785A CNFC Radeon 7850 2GB ($20 Rebate)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500gb 7200rpm
DvD Burner: Samsung DVD Burner
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W

Just Updating my list. Everything else is the exact same. Total is $757 total with shipping including deals, $737 with rebate. If you guys have any other thoughts please include them. I'm trying to stay around this price if you guys can.
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September 3, 2012 9:01:43 PM

I feel bad for doing this but I'm going to bump this because I would still like some more feedback on this build seeing as it is my first build.

Otherthings I'm paying attention to are Free Shipping and what the item is combo'd with.
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Anonymous
September 3, 2012 9:12:13 PM

spend another $15 and get a coolermaster EVO instead of the rosewell heat sink. it's worth it.
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September 3, 2012 9:37:34 PM

Though seeing as I'm not doing any real overclocking does it matter. Only saying seeing as I have had it once before but realized how pointless it was to have something like that if I wasn't going to overclock. Figured I would just get a better one down the road when there is more reason to have one.
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Anonymous
September 3, 2012 9:55:38 PM

oh sorry forgot about the no overclocking . .too many discussions at once . . :p 

just go with the stock cooler then; no reason to get a third party one if you are going to replace it.
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September 3, 2012 10:06:48 PM

See the only reason I was going to get one was because my friend and his father who builds computers for a living plus another friend explained to me that the stock coolers that come with the computer are typically build cheap and will cut the life of your cpu. So I thought I would just get a decent one that would last me a long time.

I made a thread asking if stock coolers were trustworthy but never really got the answer I wanted.
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September 3, 2012 10:09:23 PM

Here's another build I just made

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($237.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $794.78
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 18:09 EDT-0400)

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September 3, 2012 10:10:30 PM

Way better case. You get a 3570k. More HDD space. 7870 Ghz Edition. I'd say go with this.
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Anonymous
September 3, 2012 10:14:11 PM

well that one looks like a stock heatsink with a slightly bigger fan; same "push pins and size.

the other difference might be having a copper plate for the heatsink connection to the cpu but i believe the stock intels of the i5 has that also.
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September 3, 2012 10:18:21 PM

Would a 550W power supply be good enough to try and overclock that cpu though? Wouldn't that be pushing it, especially with the 7870 also being a part of this as well?

Edit: Also I do like that case. Though no front usb 2.0 kind of bugs me. Though can anything be plugged into the usb 3.0 or is it only for certain things? Been trying to figure this out for some time.
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September 3, 2012 10:25:16 PM

Astralman said:
Would a 550W power supply be good enough to try and overclock that cpu though? Wouldn't that be pushing it, especially with the 7870 also being a part of this as well?

Edit: Also I do like that case. Though no front usb 2.0 kind of bugs me. Though can anything be plugged into the usb 3.0 or is it only for certain things? Been trying to figure this out for some time.


XFX PSUs are made by Seasonic, and this 550W will undoubtedly be able to OC both the GPU and CPU. I'd say your good there. I actually bought the 300R myself and made a low-cost build 5 days ago exactly, and if my personal testimony means anything, I really liked the case. Reviews speak greatly of it, and you can plug and USB peripheral into a front USB 3.0 port. Depending on the peripheral, the USB speeds might be slower, or better, however.
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September 4, 2012 12:19:45 AM

I think I'm going to have to stick with the Rosewill Case with the Hive 650 watt just for the fact that the combo that is with it is just way to tempting and the Rosewill case itself is pretty amazing. I am concerened with the room in the back for the big cable of the power supply but we will see how that turns out. But other than that one thing I love this case.

I'm down to 731 with no shipping and I must say that Z75 case is nice. I got it simple because it was cheaper than the H77 and it had no shipping connected. Though with no real plans of overclocking I'm wasting that feature but with all the features of the board I have plus being cheaper and yatta yatta I will go with it. Thanks for that.

As I have said before, seeing as this is my first build, I don't plan on overclocking so the I5 you got there isn't going to do it for me, especially since the 3450 has a lot of great reviews and benchmarks without overclocking it.

I'm still debating as of right now on the 7870's, but just don't know if the increase in fps on the games I will be playing will be enough? Battlefield 3, Skyrim, WarZ, DayZ (maybe both), Tera, and those type of games. I know I will be upgrading my Graphics Card in probably a year from now, as I have rambled alot about at this point and just unsure of the worth of it. I know 20 to 40 bucks doesn't seem like alot but when you see that number change in the shopping cart it does.
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