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September 1, 2012 12:54:38 AM

Decided it would be good knowledge to build a computer, especially after my laptop has proven to be inferior, and I don't have a lot of money. This is what I'm going for now, it'll be fast enough for what I want to do, (surfing, some decent games on good settings). Not sure what PSU to buy, and I really want to know about the motherboard.

Approximate Purchase Date: about 2 weeks or so.

Budget Range: 300-400
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming/internet, maybe movies, don't plan on using it for officey stuff, have a laptop for that (main problem with laptop is graphics card, which is integrated into the mobo)

Are you buying a monitor: Not at the moment, I'll hook it up to a pretty archaic one I have, or a spare TV or something.

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Whatever is the cheapest

Location: Plant City, Florida

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Don't quite know what it is, probably not.

Your Monitor Resolution: Don't have a monitor atm.

Additional Comments: Mostly ugrading because my laptops graphics card is trash, so gaming I guess (don't need a high end $1k computer though)

Parts:
Case: ??? - Cheapest I can get that will fit my stuff
PSU: ??? - Cheapest I can get that will be enough, with a little extra.
Mobo: BIOSTAR H61MGC LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - $50 - http://www.amazon.com/BIOSTAR-H61MGC-Intel-Micro-Mother...
Graphics: GeForce GTS 250 - About $100 - No Linky :( 
Hard Drive: New 500GB 16MB 7200RPM SATA 3.5 Hard Drive - $50 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-500GB-16MB-7200RPM-SATA-3-5...
Ram: Kingston ValueRam - $25 - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
CPU: Intel Pentium G860 - $90 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Pentium-G860-BX80623G860-...
Disk Drive: Asus Sata OEM DVD-RW Drive - $25 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=as_li_s...

EDIT: Forgot Mobo :na: 

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September 4, 2012 6:23:07 PM

Bumping this, because it has allready been lost, and no replies >.> Also, just to clarify, I will change the Mobo if you guys recommend something not insanely expensive, and my main thing with the PSU is that I don't know how much wattage I need. Also, do I need a fan?
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September 4, 2012 8:20:52 PM

Well,on that budget I'd get

Cooler master Elite 430 case
Corsair enthusiast series 430w
Gigabyte h77 DH series
Radeon HD 7770 graphics card
500gb sata hard drive( Hitachi /Seagate/Samsung)
G Skill Sniper ram
Intel Core i3 2120
Lite On 24x DVD writer

*I'll put the link tomorrow
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September 5, 2012 6:38:52 AM

allanitomwesh said:
Well,on that budget I'd get

Cooler master Elite 430 case
Corsair enthusiast series 430w
Gigabyte h77 DH series
Radeon HD 7770 graphics card
500gb sata hard drive( Hitachi /Seagate/Samsung)
G Skill Sniper ram
Intel Core i3 2120
Lite On 24x DVD writer

*I'll put the link tomorrow



Ok, so what you gave me is this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gAx2 - $500
Which is a bit too much.

Checked for the differences between I3 and G860, and there is essentially no difference in gaming, as hyperthreading doesn't really make a difference, plus its only $80. If I'm wrong here, correct me.

Cut down to 4 gb of ram, not sure whether its better to get 2x2gb or 1x4gb, so went with with 1x4, figuring it's easier if i want to upgrade. Heard of Ripjaw while I was looking at the sniper ram, plus, it looks cooler (not as cool as sniper though, couldn't find a single stick of that :( 

Also cut down on the mobo to the cheapest gigabyte non-micro I could find, meaning that it doesn't have integrated graphics shouldn't be that much of a problem right? Also, eww rebate, probably not worth it.
Highly doubt I can shave any more off without going micro (micro boards are bad correct?).

Wanna leave the graphics because its good, and very power effective, meaning its runnable on the PSU.

Modified build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gBs1 -432.77
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September 5, 2012 6:50:21 AM

2x2 GB is better since its dual channel, which means it works in pairs.
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September 5, 2012 7:25:07 AM

You could save some more on the board with a H67 one at the cost of features.
Ram in a pair works better,but expands to a lower capacity.
Gigabyte boards are good, I love them cause they're always on sale frequently.
Hyperthreading doesn't affect gaming directly, but you'll be doing other things with your PC, that affect your experience indirectly. That's where hyperthreading has definite edge over a Pentium. Like bumping music on your headphones while destroying the city on gta4. Small things like that that make the i3 better.
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September 5, 2012 9:20:12 PM

allanitomwesh said:
You could save some more on the board with a H67 one at the cost of features.
Ram in a pair works better,but expands to a lower capacity.
Gigabyte boards are good, I love them cause they're always on sale frequently.
Hyperthreading doesn't affect gaming directly, but you'll be doing other things with your PC, that affect your experience indirectly. That's where hyperthreading has definite edge over a Pentium. Like bumping music on your headphones while destroying the city on gta4. Small things like that that make the i3 better.


Switched over ram, to two sticks.

Looking at i3, still not sure if its worth the $35, this is my main concern, if hyperthreading is worth $35, plus a marginally faster CPU, I may gt it. Looks like intel CPU's have integrated graphics, meaning my mobo doesn't need one, right?. So I could probably an even cheaper mobo I think. (not sure I even need itegrated graphics, but I might as well, just incase the GPU derps on me)

H67's are MicroAtx right? That hopefully won't be a problem.
Found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P8H67-M-LE-Rev-3-0-LGA-115...

Its used, but the dealer looks reputable, plus its Asus (appears they are slightly better than Gigabyte according to reviews). Also found this, for $10 more, and it doesn't appear to be a micro.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-DH67CL-LGA1155-H67-Expres...

Using PC-Part Picker, the Gigabyte H67 is $100 at the moment, same price as the nonmicro. Saw the Gigabyte B75 micros, they're in the same "series" or whatever as the 77 right? Would they be worth it over either of the Ebay ones? Going to go ahead and put those in.

Switched power supply to an equivalent one, bit more expensive, but no 2-3 month rebate (thats a pain, and not useful, only have so much money atm)

What I'm at now: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gE9h

Any way to shave off bit more money? Or is that as close as I'm going to get?
Pretty sure i3 isn't going to happen, unless I get an extremely convincing argument.
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September 6, 2012 2:51:56 AM

Well,
You'd definitely want a hdd at 7200rpm like a barracuda, even keep it sata 3gbps.
You can save some more with a radeon 7750. You can game comfortably at lower than 1080p. It even pulls that off at high settings,in most games that aren't stress benchmarks. It'll also give reason to drop 75w off the power supply to a 380w one. Double savings.
The B75 board is best,though I'd go with h77 over it,dunno if there's one that price.
I'll recommend the i3, the hyperthreading comes in handy in threaded online multiplayers like battlefield 3. It'll also run a more powerful card better with the 4 threads, incase you upgrade.
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September 6, 2012 4:08:06 PM

allanitomwesh said:
Well,
You'd definitely want a hdd at 7200rpm like a barracuda, even keep it sata 3gbps.
You can save some more with a radeon 7750. You can game comfortably at lower than 1080p. It even pulls that off at high settings,in most games that aren't stress benchmarks. It'll also give reason to drop 75w off the power supply to a 380w one. Double savings.
The B75 board is best,though I'd go with h77 over it,dunno if there's one that price.
I'll recommend the i3, the hyperthreading comes in handy in threaded online multiplayers like battlefield 3. It'll also run a more powerful card better with the 4 threads, incase you upgrade.



http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gIm2 At this at the moment, bit expensive, but I guess I could probably do it Almost makes we want to go ahead to and make the first one you suggested, just saving up a bit more money.
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September 6, 2012 6:42:17 PM

$55 isn't half bad. I'd go with that.
You could shave it off by buying those items in store combos and bundles,walk in sales and cupons.
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September 7, 2012 7:07:24 PM

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September 7, 2012 7:10:01 PM

Not sure which one to select as "best answer" so I'll just do the last one. You were a big help. Thanks!
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September 8, 2012 12:19:01 AM

Wow, ok, all ready closed this out and such, but I came across some unexpected money. Basically I got a check for my financial aid, and instead of the $500 I was expecting, I got $1900. Now, I have to spend a lot of this for food and such, but I'm going to raise my budget up to maybe $550 dollars, just try not to go over at all. Debating making a new topic, but don't really see a point if people can still see this one.
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September 8, 2012 9:29:15 AM

Fantastic. You've been a fantastic help :) 
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