Sapphire 7970 Toxic News!!!!!!!
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OMG, it's finally here!!!
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4828/sapphire_radeon_h...
and 1200mhz core and 6400mhz memory for a manufacturer's overclock, maxed out at 64C on load (according to TT's testing conditions anyway). boy that's amazing.
all in all a beautiful card, wish it came in a 3GB version as well, would love to get one to crossfire with my dual-x card, but then the 6GB of vram would be wasted (not saying that I'd have a use for 6gb of vram anyway). I want 3GB damn it... sapphire, y u try to make us pay more???
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4828/sapphire_radeon_h...
and 1200mhz core and 6400mhz memory for a manufacturer's overclock, maxed out at 64C on load (according to TT's testing conditions anyway). boy that's amazing.
all in all a beautiful card, wish it came in a 3GB version as well, would love to get one to crossfire with my dual-x card, but then the 6GB of vram would be wasted (not saying that I'd have a use for 6gb of vram anyway). I want 3GB damn it... sapphire, y u try to make us pay more???
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Pinhedd said:
Did they seriously run those tests with 6 month old drivers?yes I believe they did -_-... worse, they didn't even run a high res benchmark... what I'd really like to see is a 6-monitor benchmark with a pair of these babies, that'll really give us an opportunity to see the 6GB of memory shine
actually, that just gave me a thought... perhaps the unusually low temps were due to them not stressing the card to max?
vmem said:
yes I believe they did -_-... worse, they didn't even run a high res benchmark... what I'd really like to see is a 6-monitor benchmark with a pair of these babies, that'll really give us an opportunity to see the 6GB of memory shine
actually, that just gave me a thought... perhaps the unusually low temps were due to them not stressing the card to max?
Most likely the case. The 12.1 and 12.2 drivers have tons of problems with the 7000 series cards. 12.3 fixed many of them and 12.7 seems to be the best of the bunch now.
RussK1 said:
Their way of making the 680 look better... I'm sick of review sites that do that crap.well, it was still destroying the 680 so no seriously complaints here... but I agree. a truly extreme resolution benchmark (triple 1600p or something) will show the 680 running out of memory and just crashing... but it's exactly the type of setting where these toxic cards will shine...
vmem said:
well, it was still destroying the 680 so no seriously complaints here... but I agree. a truly extreme resolution benchmark (triple 1600p or something) will show the 680 running out of memory and just crashing... but it's exactly the type of setting where these toxic cards will shine...Here:
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/6/18/the-4k-g...


RussK1 said:
Here:http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/6/18/the-4k-g...
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data/2012_6_18/The-4K-Graphics-Card-Shootout/4K%20Gaming%20Chart%2011.jpg
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data/2012_6_18/The-4K-Graphics-Card-Shootout/4K%20Gaming%20Chart%202.jpg
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data/2012_6_18/The-4K-Graphics-Card-Shootout/4K%20Gaming%20Chart%203.jpg
amazing! I want that monitor!!! lol (yes I know it cost like a pair of kidneys...)
and now just imagine the sapphire toxic doing that, it's got like a 30% overclock
should make the game playable on ultra at 4k
vmem said:
amazing! I want that monitor!!! lol (yes I know it cost like a pair of kidneys...)and now just imagine the sapphire toxic doing that, it's got like a 30% overclock
should make the game playable on ultra at 4k
Only 35k for 4k!
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/eizo-showcasing-its-35000-...
http://www.eizo.com/global/products/duravision/fdh3601/
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http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/5/25/eizo-4k-...
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RussK1 said:
Only 35k for 4k!
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/eizo-showcasing-its-35000-...
http://www.eizo.com/global/products/duravision/fdh3601/
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Monitor for Air Traffic Control and Geophysical ServicesUnboxing:
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/5/25/eizo-4k-...
damn, I don't think that will drop to affordable range within the time I'll be using my 7970
and 35k? yes, I stand by my "pair of kidneys" analogy
Pinhedd said:
Yeah I think 20K is about the going rate for a kidney in most countriesshame we can only sell one
jk... would never consider it lol... maybe if someone asked me to donate to save a kid from some horrible disease, but that's a different story
anyway, how's intel planning to push us into the 4K era by 2014 with prices so high?
and thanks for all the info RussK
vmem said:
shame we can only sell one
jk... would never consider it lol... maybe if someone asked me to donate to save a kid from some horrible disease, but that's a different story
anyway, how's intel planning to push us into the 4K era by 2014 with prices so high?
and thanks for all the info RussK
Good question. It was only a few years ago that 65 inch plasma TVs were 20 grand though, now they're much cheaper. I highly doubt that they'll hit mass market by 2014 but they might hit general availability. I predict mass market by 2016
Pinhedd said:
Good question. It was only a few years ago that 65 inch plasma TVs were 20 grand though, now they're much cheaper. I highly doubt that they'll hit mass market by 2014 but they might hit general availability. I predict mass market by 2016size and pixel density are two different things though... those 65 inch+ TVs of today still only pack 1980x1080 pixels.
but then again, Dell's 1600p monitor only cost about $1k... there really shouldn't be a 34k gap between 2.5kx1.6k and 4kx2k pixels... I can see a 4k monitor for $4-5k in 2014 easily
vmem said:
I think you're right... and it'll be mainly due to those extra 3GB of VRAM that the VAST MAJORITY of us don't need... why can't they make a 3GB model too??? grrrrYup. $500 for GHz edition + ~$20 for custom cooler/higher clock + $50-100 for double VRAM. Is there ANYTHING that needs 6GB vram currently, at any resolution (I know that you can probably fill that up with mods in a game like Skyrim, but I'm talking about performance improvements)? I saw a test where someone put on 8XSSAA on Skyrim at really high resolution and it crushed a 2GB 680, but the 4GB version was fine.
Those temps + power levels are nice... this is the first card to actually be nicer than the Lightning (I'm a bit jealous).
vmem said:
size and pixel density are two different things though... those 65 inch+ TVs of today still only pack 1980x1080 pixels. but then again, Dell's 1600p monitor only cost about $1k... there really shouldn't be a 34k gap between 2.5kx1.6k and 4kx2k pixels... I can see a 4k monitor for $4-5k in 2014 easily
What about Apples retina display?
@BigMack, you spent $600 importing in your second lightning as I recall? I guess a better 7970 is a bit unexpected.
@RussK I have no idea about apple retina display pricing, though they actually haven't made a stand-alone monitor that fits their "retina" standards. on top of that, I hear apple displays tend to have issues when hooked up to non-apple products (figures)
@RussK I have no idea about apple retina display pricing, though they actually haven't made a stand-alone monitor that fits their "retina" standards. on top of that, I hear apple displays tend to have issues when hooked up to non-apple products (figures)
vmem said:
size and pixel density are two different things though... those 65 inch+ TVs of today still only pack 1980x1080 pixels. but then again, Dell's 1600p monitor only cost about $1k... there really shouldn't be a 34k gap between 2.5kx1.6k and 4kx2k pixels... I can see a 4k monitor for $4-5k in 2014 easily
I wasn't trying to draw a perfect analogue between the two, just pointing out that the newest and best products always have the highest price tag. The products are in short supply so they sell them for as much as they possibly can until manufacturing picks up and all the early adopters are satisfied.
Pinhedd said:
I wasn't trying to draw a perfect analogue between the two, just pointing out that the newest and best products always have the highest price tag. The products are in short supply so they sell them for as much as they possibly can until manufacturing picks up and all the early adopters are satisfied.ahh, yeah, you're definitely right. I look forward to my 4k monitor someday
vmem said:
@BigMack, you spent $600 importing in your second lightning as I recall? I guess a better 7970 is a bit unexpected. @RussK I have no idea about apple retina display pricing, though they actually haven't made a stand-alone monitor that fits their "retina" standards. on top of that, I hear apple displays tend to have issues when hooked up to non-apple products (figures)
Well, I did that when other 7970s were $500, and the $100 price premium was already tough to swallow (it definitely was a purchase with little value). Now, you can get a pretty nice 7970 (the XFX DD) for $410, and I just think that a nearly $200 price premium (if the card does come in at $600) for this card over a reference 7970 is too much - maybe we'll see the card closer to the $550 mark?
I guess I just think that the GHz edition pricing is stupid, since two clicks in Afterburner gives you the same results for almost $100 less money.
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