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September 1, 2012 7:19:42 PM

Not first time builder but i thought i could use some advice from people who are wiser than me.

I will be purchasing this PC within 2 weeks.

I don't really want to exceed my budget of a 1500 by more than 50 unless it gives me an advantage. Lowering the cost and keeping performance would put a smile on my face.

Ill be overclocking the Cpu to 4.5ghz and take the video card as far as it can go since i think Lightning is the only one with voltage unlocked, I'm thinking about adding a second gtx680 in the near future(4 months). I will be replacing this PC probably in 2-3 years so long lasting parts are not necessary.

I will be primarily using this computer for gaming as i already sold mine previously. I don't mind buying from other sites as long as the prices are cheaper.

Thermaltake Overseer RX-I VN700M1W2N Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI N680GTX Lightning GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 $570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AZZA Dynamo 850 850W ATX & EPS 12V 2.91 SLI Ready Power Supply $84.99 ($20 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) $229($10 GC meh!)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1000DHTZ 1TB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 $259.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON Black Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo SATA Model ihes112-04 - OEM $46.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Enermax ETS-T40 T.B.APOLLISH CPU Cooler $45.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total cost 1542 plus shipping after rebates 1500 =).


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September 1, 2012 7:40:12 PM

this is much more balanced and cheaper. it should perform the same other than the fact that the 680 performs about 8% faster. the msi power edition also has unlocked voltage control

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gg5e
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September 1, 2012 7:43:48 PM

oh also, the case in my build can be bought without a window but it costs 50 cents more xD
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September 1, 2012 7:50:15 PM

I'd opt for the Corsair 500R case.....usually same price as your pick but now $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|11-139-010^11-139-010-TS%2C11-139-009^11-139-009-TS

I'd upgrade the PSU to a 9.5 rated unit
$95 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$115 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This RAM is low profile, has better timings, is cheaper and is low voltage
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd use the Asus 670 ..... outperforms reference 680 by 8%. OC'd 680 will be faster but not $130 faster
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...

Put the money saved into a better MoBo or an SSD.

If no SSD, I'd take the Seagate Momentus hybrid SSD/HD over the Raptor at almost half the price..

Hyper 612 PWM over the Enermax
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
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September 1, 2012 8:14:07 PM

My thoughts:

1) 3570K is as good as it gets.
If you live near a microcenter, they will sell you one for $190 last time I checked.
Once you get past 4.0, most games will not benefit. Be realistic on that 4.5 oc plan. You may not get such a well binned chip.

2) Some will say a GTX670 is almost as good as a GTX680, and they might be right.
But, with your budget, I would still go with a GTX680. I don't much like the restricted exhaust of the msi unit, and would go with a EVGA superclocked card instead. It is going for $480:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3) There is little need for fast ram.
Read this on ram scaling:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-...
a 8gb(2 x 4gb) kit of low profile DDR3 1600 ram will perform just as well.

4) No build with this budget should not have a SSD for the os and some games.
I suggest you initially omit the velociraptor and use a 180 or 240gb ssd instead.
My choice would be the Intel 330 180gb unit for $160. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As an alternative look at a 240gb Samsung 830 or Intel 520.
Later, when the ssd starts to fill up, you can add a hard drive for overflow. The velociraptor is the very best hard drive for the os, but nowhere near as good as a ssd. Hard prices will soon come down as the market recovers from the Thailand floods.

5) AZZA is a psu brand with which I am not familiar. But, based on it's 60a output compared with 70a from a Seasonic psu, I suspect it is not of great quality.
A GTX680 only needs a 550w psu. I think a 650w unit from a known quality brand would be better.
My short list would include Seasonic, Antec, PC P&C, XFX, and Corsair.
How about this PC P&C silencer 600W unit@$70 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 1, 2012 10:47:05 PM

the msi card does cool much better than whatever evga has to offer. the case we chose, the define r4 or the 500r have great airflow so exhaust wouldnt be a problem
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September 1, 2012 11:19:33 PM

TheBigTroll said:
this is much more balanced and cheaper. it should perform the same other than the fact that the 680 performs about 8% faster. the msi power edition also has unlocked voltage control

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gg5e


+1^

Pretty much the same thing I would recommend with just a couple of differences.

At your price point, I would go with this case...

Corsair Carbide Series 500R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or this one...

Antec Eleven Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The only other change I would make is the SSD. Instead, I would grab a 256gb version of the Samsung 830...especially at your budget.
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September 1, 2012 11:21:55 PM

i chose the R4 given its my favourite case and it is silent. the 500R is my other recommendation but it is 114.99 before a MIR. depends if you want to deal with a MIR
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September 1, 2012 11:34:12 PM

TheBigTroll said:
i chose the R4 given its my favourite case and it is silent. the 500R is my other recommendation but it is 114.99 before a MIR. depends if you want to deal with a MIR


Yeah, it's just personal preference on my side. The R4 is an excellent case as well. It's clean and has great airflow.
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September 1, 2012 11:44:46 PM

ram higher than 1600 works but you just need to configure the timings manually in the bios. id suggest not getting memory higher than 1600mhz (unless 1866mhz 1.5v is cheaper) given it doesnt provide any performance gain
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September 1, 2012 11:45:18 PM

aslator said:
Not first time builder but i thought i could use some advice from people who are wiser than me.

I will be purchasing this PC within 2 weeks.

I don't really want to exceed my budget of a 1500 by more than 50 unless it gives me an advantage. Lowering the cost and keeping performance would put a smile on my face.

Ill be overclocking the Cpu to 4.5ghz and take the video card as far as it can go since i think Lightning is the only one with voltage unlocked, I'm thinking about adding a second gtx680 in the near future(4 months). I will be replacing this PC probably in 2-3 years so long lasting parts are not necessary.

I will be primarily using this computer for gaming as i already sold mine previously. I don't mind buying from other sites as long as the prices are cheaper.

Thermaltake Overseer RX-I VN700M1W2N Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI N680GTX Lightning GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 $570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AZZA Dynamo 850 850W ATX & EPS 12V 2.91 SLI Ready Power Supply $84.99 ($20 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) $229($10 GC meh!)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1000DHTZ 1TB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 $259.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON Black Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo SATA Model ihes112-04 - OEM $46.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Enermax ETS-T40 T.B.APOLLISH CPU Cooler $45.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total cost 1542 plus shipping after rebates 1500 =).


Two problems I see. For a relatively high-end build, you've got a trash power supply. That's dangerous, literally. If you are looking for a bargain bin 850W power supply that isn't garbage, try a Lepa (Enermax) B 850.

Also, I can't get newegg links to load right now. But I strongly suspect that your RAM is incompatible with your mainboard. Triple-check that! I think a Z77 board won't boot with anything faster than DDR3 1600. You might be able to install faster DIMMs, but you'd have to access the CMOS settings...which would require compatible RAM installed (catch-22)
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September 1, 2012 11:53:09 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Tower-Gaming-CC-9... $118.98 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO750W-Semi-Modular-80Plus-S... $111.71 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $101.71
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus 750 Watt Power Supply (Silver)

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-CrossFireX-DispayPort-Mo... $149.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA 1155 AMD CrossFireX/NVIDIA SLI W/ HDMI,DVI,DispayPort Dual UEFI BIOS ATX Motherboard GA-Z77X-UD3H

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Pro... $229.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-120mm-RR-212E... $32.32 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-Extreme-Masters-PC... $46.50 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Patriot Memory Intel Extreme Masters 8 GB (2 x 4GB) PC3-12800 CL9 Memory Kit - PVI38G160C9K

http://www.amazon.com/Lite--Super-AllWrite-Layer-Drive/... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 Version C (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $77.49 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Solid-SD... $168.64 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SDSSDX-240G-G25

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-N670-... $409.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 OC 2GB GDDR5 2DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card N670 PE 2GD5/OC

Total: $1,363.60 *includes shipping does but not include rebates


http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $90.78 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_670_Power_Ed... <----- review of that MSI card w/benchmarks
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September 2, 2012 3:11:04 AM

davec80 said:
Two problems I see. For a relatively high-end build, you've got a trash power supply. That's dangerous, literally. If you are looking for a bargain bin 850W power supply that isn't garbage, try a Lepa (Enermax) B 850.

Also, I can't get newegg links to load right now. But I strongly suspect that your RAM is incompatible with your mainboard. Triple-check that! I think a Z77 board won't boot with anything faster than DDR3 1600. You might be able to install faster DIMMs, but you'd have to access the CMOS settings...which would require compatible RAM installed (catch-22)


@ davec80
Faster ram will always operate at a lower speed, just to avoid the catch 22.

@aslator
Cases are a personal thing. They will all hold your parts, and most will have adequate ventilation for modern cpu's and 28nm graphics cards. Buy what you love, you will be able to use it for several genertions of pc's.
Bust your budget if you have to, but buy a case YOU like not what others like.
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September 2, 2012 1:23:58 PM

Best answer selected by aslator.
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September 2, 2012 1:50:12 PM

Thank you all for the feedback.

First off ill be picking the corsair 500r case and save $30 bucks on case and still looks as cool with better airflow. Ill be using a SSD(Corsair 3 series deal on Tiger direct $125 after rebate) 180gb +1TB(Samsung sinpoint) HD(save $60) instead of Velociraptor and finally ill be probably change my heatsink for the Thermaltake Frio Extreme to hit my 4.5ghz desired speed.
I will be keeping the gtx 680, although the gtx 670 is a better bang for the buck and almost same performance when OC. I like the idea of having the single fastest gpu in my pc and the PCB design of this card is sick.

Also ill be buying a low ram profile like Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB PC3-14900 Desktop RAM for $34 at frys(deal right now apparently).
You must be wondering why i dont pick the noctua or a better power supply.... I simply want my case to really glow glue(noctua hideous color imo) during night gametime and I cant seem to find a good power supply with a blue LED fan that is below $120. So far i haven't read this power supply has broken components, so if it fails even after 2 years(like most bad reviews) I'll still be happy because ill be on my next build by then.

Thanks and appreciate the support.
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September 2, 2012 2:14:10 PM

1: the frios are not great. if you need something that is blue, id just get a phanteks cooler. its like a noctua but painted blue or whatever color you like
2: the samsung 830 is 2 tiers higher in performance over the force 3. async flash on the force 3 is not desirable
3:if you are getting a 680, you better be getting the msi lightning. the other 680s are not worth it given they all have locked voltages
4:the ram must run at 1.5v. otherwise, you degrade you memory controller
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September 2, 2012 2:39:32 PM

TheBigTroll said:
1: the frios are not great. if you need something that is blue, id just get a phanteks cooler. its like a noctua but painted blue or whatever color you like
2: the samsung 830 is 2 tiers higher in performance over the force 3. async flash on the force 3 is not desirable
3:if you are getting a 680, you better be getting the msi lightning. the other 680s are not worth it given they all have locked voltages
4:the ram must run at 1.5v. otherwise, you degrade you memory controller


Heard Phanteks are actually better than Noctua... Great find! ill see that i get one instead. Also Ill be getting the samsung SSD in that case(dunno too much about SSD). Yes in fact i am actually getting the lightning edition, watched a video about it and looks so sick which made me actually make this build. Yes that ram does run at 1.5v. Thanks you for help.
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September 2, 2012 2:42:33 PM

no problem
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