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September 1, 2012 11:05:14 PM

so, i bought an fx-8120 cause it was cheap, but now a few months alter i just cant stand the performance in every game: dota 2, guild wars 2, bf3 etc. etc.

My specs are:
fx-8120 @ 4.0ghz cooler by hyper 212 evo
gtx 560 OC asus directcu2 top
corsair vengeance 8gb
990fxa-ud3 mobo
corsair gs 600 (600w psu)
corsair force gt 90gb
bitfenix merc beta case


Now, should i get:

1) A better case, a better cooler and OC my CPU more + get a 7970(?)
2) A better CPU, skip the case and the cooler and get a nice gpu upgrade 7870(?)


The only thing i love about the fx-8120 is its multitasking capabilitys, i love to stream my gaming content on twitch.tv so its a great advantage of having an fx-8120. Can a 2500k handle that + gaming ? how far can i OC my cpu with that case and hyper 212 evo ?


give me suggestions please :) 
a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2012 12:08:49 AM

Keep the cpu. Getting a 7970 or gtx 670 would be a big boost in performance.
September 2, 2012 8:54:07 AM

you sure my cpu wont be bottlenecking it ?
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a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2012 9:09:29 AM

Try something else.... disable 1 core of each module of your CPU and see how it performs ;) 

Edit: in case you didn't understand.... the FX 8120 has 4 modules... in each module there are 2 cores, what you wanna do is block/supress/disable/leave unused one core of each module.

DO NOT disable two modules instead of disabling one core of each one.

Btw.... a 7970 is a kick ass GPU :D  your GTX560 is definitely holding you back

September 2, 2012 10:26:29 AM

You need a new video card.
September 2, 2012 11:58:07 AM

hmm, so OC -ing my cpu from 4.0 to ~4.6-4.8 and getting a 7970 is a better solution than chaning the whole platform ? :p 
September 2, 2012 12:41:46 PM

Consider getting a second GTX 560 and going SLI. I did that with my phenom X6 on that same motherboard and the difference was very impressive.

You will be cutting it kind of close with that power supply but That's the route I would look into.


http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1646...

No "micro-stuttering" for me either.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2012 12:58:35 PM

cheti said:
hmm, so OC -ing my cpu from 4.0 to ~4.6-4.8 and getting a 7970 is a better solution than chaning the whole platform ? :p 


did you do what i said?
September 2, 2012 1:21:50 PM

idroid said:
did you do what i said?

nah cause it doesent seem logical to me :D  turning off 4 out of 8 cores should give me more performance ?
September 2, 2012 1:23:15 PM

hmm, i dont know, they dont sell ASUS DIRECTCU 2 TOP gtx 560 925mhz editions anymore soo yeah :/  sli isnt an option for me atm
a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2012 1:28:09 PM

cheti said:
nah cause it doesent seem logical to me :D  turning off 4 out of 8 cores should give me more performance ?


Oh god.... OH GOD.... buddy, do you even know how the architecture of the FX chips works? have you seen the diagrams? do you know how a program utilizes the system resources??? just freaking do it and compare your performance.

Quote:
You might be surprised. Disable one core per module to eliminate resource sharing (letting the still active core of each module get a significant performance per Hz boost while cutting power consumption by 30-40%) and overclocking the CPU and CPU/NB freuqneyc (increases the L3 cache frequency) on the FX-8120 and the FX-8150 can make them able to compete with the K edition i5s. Doing the same with this FX-8350 might let it be able to top Intel in lightly threaded performance until Haswell launches and even compete with the quad core LGA 1155 i7s in highly threaded performance with this *mod* and beat them without it.

It might actually be one of the best things around if used properly.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2012 1:29:23 PM

cheti said:
hmm, i dont know, they dont sell ASUS DIRECTCU 2 TOP gtx 560 925mhz editions anymore soo yeah :/  sli isnt an option for me atm


ANY gtx 560 will work, they don't have to be made by the same company (just make sure you clock them both at the same speed)
September 2, 2012 1:33:51 PM

hmm, i dont know. ive read that ppl have so much problems with sli + the heat + id have to upgrade my PSU which would lead to basically the same as getting a 7870/7950/7970/670
a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2012 1:34:59 PM

cheti said:
hmm, i dont know. ive read that ppl have so much problems with sli + the heat + id have to upgrade my PSU which would lead to basically the same as getting a 7870/7950/7970/670


do the mod to your CPU....
September 2, 2012 2:33:24 PM

so i have to disable every other core from the bios ? 1 3 5 7 so that 0 2 4 6 is active ?
a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2012 2:54:01 PM

cheti said:
so i have to disable every other core from the bios ? 1 3 5 7 so that 0 2 4 6 is active ?


Yep, leave one core of each module active :D 
September 2, 2012 3:10:16 PM

idroid said:
Yep, leave one core of each module active :D 

but how should it increase performance or affect anything ? just curious, has it been proven to work ?
a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2012 3:12:21 PM

cheti said:
but how should it increase performance or affect anything ? just curious, has it been proven to work ?


just do it, you have nothing to lose, you might not understand why the performance goes up but i do, what i quoted makes a lot of sense from a programmers point of view.
September 2, 2012 3:22:28 PM

idroid said:
just do it, you have nothing to lose, you might not understand why the performance goes up but i do, what i quoted makes a lot of sense from a programmers point of view.

yeah for some reason i missed the quote but it does make a little sense to me now since 2 cores are sharing the resources of 1 module.

anyways, ill be doing it soon and then comparing the stuff :p 
September 2, 2012 3:29:12 PM

okay i did it, i have a gigabyte mobo so the bios is iffy but i tihnk i did it right, i could disable each core individually so there was an option to enable which referred to enabling only one core per computing unit so i just enabled that feature and now task manager shows 4 cores.

guild wars 2 fps seems to be pretty much the same (if not even worse). gonna check dota2 now.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2012 3:36:19 PM

cheti said:
okay i did it, i have a gigabyte mobo so the bios is iffy but i tihnk i did it right, i could disable each core individually so there was an option to enable which referred to enabling only one core per computing unit so i just enabled that feature and now task manager shows 4 cores.

guild wars 2 fps seems to be pretty much the same (if not even worse). gonna check dota2 now.


Download this: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1692/S.T.A.L.K.E.R... run that benchmark with the cores enabled/disabled and post your results.
September 2, 2012 5:30:32 PM

well, whats the point of these benchmarks now ? what do i do next ? get a new cpu or a gpu or what ? :p 
a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2012 6:30:26 PM

Your cpu is ok you would see a little improvement in performance changing to a i5 3570k. Now getting a hd 7970 you would see a huge gain in performance and your cpu won't bottleneck it.
September 2, 2012 9:04:56 PM

okay, going with a h100, 500r and a 7970 then :) 

hope to get better overclocks than current *** case with no airflow and a hyper 212 evo :p 
September 2, 2012 9:36:18 PM

ROFL, buying a CPU, then disabling bits of it. Are you listening to yourself idroid?

OP, get an i5 3470 to save cash, an H77M-D3H to save more cash and use the 8120 as a frisbee if you don't sell it. Also the 560 is really creaky now. A 7950 would smash it.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2012 11:46:52 PM

Smeg45 said:
ROFL, buying a CPU, then disabling bits of it. Are you listening to yourself idroid?


buddy.... golden rule of most forums: don't talk if you don't have proof of what you're saying... please don't

i COULD explain why there is a performance gain by disabling those cores but i am too focking tired right now.... i must sleep.
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