1500 Euro Gaming.

Hi, I'm thinking of building a new PC, and before I place my order(s), I would like to hear if anyone have suggestions to improvements or faults on my setup.

Budget Range: 1500 € / 1900 Dollars.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming!

Are you buying a monitor: No.

Do you need to buy OS: No.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: http://www.alternate.de

Location: Denmark, if free shipping, USA and the rest of Europe. Danish retail prices are just too high.

Parts Preferences: I'm looking for Intel parts.

Overclocking: Yes.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe later.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I would like it to be pretty quiet, but only as quiet as good componenets would allow.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Tired of my old AMD build, need something new and refresing! Also, I would like to increase my FPS in Battlefield 3.

So far, I've been looking at parts, and I've found the following:

Define XL USB 3.0 Black Pearl
Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H
Gainward Geforce GTX 670 Phantom
Corsair CMPSU-850AX
Seagate ST31000524AS 1 TB
Corsair DIMM 4 GB DDR3-1600 x2
Antec KÜHLER H2O 620

Sincerely.
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  1. You may want to swap out the AX850 for a 750w unit :) A GTX670 SLI unit won't need 850w.

    Other than that, those components look compatible and make a very beefy gaming set up!
  2. Ditch the Antec Kuhler - those are like the very low end of liquid cooling. Go for a strong air fan like the Noctua NH-U9B instead.

    And then there's no reason to get a 2500K with a Z77 - get the 3570K instead. And increase your RAM to 8GB and then you're set.
  3. g-unit1111 said:
    Ditch the Antec Kuhler - those are like the very low end of liquid cooling. Go for a strong air fan like the Noctua NH-U9B instead.

    And then there's no reason to get a 2500K with a Z77 - get the 3570K instead. And increase your RAM to 8GB and then you're set.

    +1 to 3570k

    I didn't notice that until you mentioned it for some reason :ouch:

    -coughs- NH-D14 -coughs- ;)
  4. g-unit1111 said:
    Ditch the Antec Kuhler - those are like the very low end of liquid cooling. Go for a strong air fan like the Noctua NH-U9B instead.

    And then there's no reason to get a 2500K with a Z77 - get the 3570K instead. And increase your RAM to 8GB and then you're set.

    My worry about air fans is the noise, mainly. But from what I've read on fans so far, you can find some strong ones, that stay at very low dBa. Cougar Vortex should be the best? Couldn't find it featured in the fan tests found on this site.

    As for the CPU, I've read mixed things on this. Some say the 2500K is better at overlocking, mostly because the 3570K gets hotter than the 2500K. Thus, once again, water cooling would be prefered. It's my first go on water cooling, so I could be wrong. But I definitely have the 3570K into consideration, as it's only priced 10 euros above the 2500K.

    mocchan said:
    You may want to swap out the AX850 for a 750w unit :) A GTX670 SLI unit won't need 850w.

    Other than that, those components look compatible and make a very beefy gaming set up!

    Alright! Money well saved. I might consider a completely different PSU though, since I mainly picked this one for it's low noise. At lower wattage, there is better ones, noise wise.

    I appreciate the help, guys :)
  5. Azomania said:
    My worry about air fans is the noise, mainly. But from what I've read on fans so far, you can find some strong ones, that stay at very low dBa. Cougar Vortex should be the best? Couldn't find it featured in the fan tests found on this site.

    As for the CPU, I've read mixed things on this. Some say the 2500K is better at overlocking, mostly because the 3570K gets hotter than the 2500K. Thus, once again, water cooling would be prefered. It's my first go on water cooling, so I could be wrong. But I definitely have the 3570K into consideration, as it's only priced 10 euros above the 2500K.


    Alright! Money well saved. I might consider a completely different PSU though, since I mainly picked this one for it's low noise. At lower wattage, there is better ones, noise wise.

    I appreciate the help, guys :)


    Oh yes! I think the PC P&C units are very quiet, I'm not too sure if they're a Hybrid PSU, however (passive/active cooling).
  6. Quote:
    My worry about air fans is the noise, mainly. But from what I've read on fans so far, you can find some strong ones, that stay at very low dBa. Cougar Vortex should be the best? Couldn't find it featured in the fan tests found on this site.


    That's kind of a moot point - most fans are very silent for the most part. Most modern cases have really addressed noise concerns over the last few years and case makers have definitely heard users' concerns.

    Quote:
    As for the CPU, I've read mixed things on this. Some say the 2500K is better at overlocking, mostly because the 3570K gets hotter than the 2500K. Thus, once again, water cooling would be prefered. It's my first go on water cooling, so I could be wrong. But I definitely have the 3570K into consideration, as it's only priced 10 euros above the 2500K.


    That's also kind of a moot point. There's no real benchmarks that say that the 2500K is better than the 3570K. The main thing is if you use the stock fan, but most people who overclock will use a stronger aftermarket fan so that really won't make much of a difference. If it's your first time - don't use liquid cooling. Especially a closed block like the Antec Kuhler. There's no closed block that's better than the strongest air fan. If you're going to do real liquid cooling, use a real custom loop or don't use one at all. Comparing a Kuhler to a real liqiuid loop is like grade school t-ball vs. the New York Yankees. Like comparing some guy on a karaoke machine to Luciano Pavoratti. :lol:

    Quote:
    -coughs- NH-D14 -coughs- ;)


    There's times when a D14 works and there's times when it doesn't. Depends on the budget.

    Quote:
    Oh yes! I think the PC P&C units are very quiet, I'm not too sure if they're a Hybrid PSU, however (passive/active cooling).


    Yeah they make some truly excellent supplies but I'm not sure if they're available in the EU.
  7. Very true about the D14, it's on the expensive side, so definitely not worth the extra cost if you're on a tight budget.

    Also, that's unfortunate :( I wasn't aware if they were available in EU or not.
  8. mocchan said:
    Very true about the D14, it's on the expensive side, so definitely not worth the extra cost if you're on a tight budget.

    Also, that's unfortunate :( I wasn't aware if they were available in EU or not.


    Yeah PCPAC is partly owned by OCZ and they have a somewhat limited distribution network. I think right now it's only limited to North America.
  9. Well, if I was to ditch the water cooling, buying the fan you both suggest would only add another 10 euro to the total cost. I would assume one of these bad boys would be enough? Especially, since the case I'm buying comes with 3 stock fans aswell.

    Regarding the CPU and Motherboard, you suggest getting the 3570k because of the motherboard, but what about finding a cheaper motherboard, taking the 2500k, and then have more money for other parts?

    As for the PSU, I'm pretty sure the german site I'm gonna buy from have those PSUs, please, have a look and see if it's any of those
  10. After searching the net for other soloutions, I've found this NesteQ ASM XZ-700 Will 700W be enough? I read it was ultra silent, due to its semi fanless cooling, with a heat pipe. Will this keep it cool?
  11. Azomania said:
    Well, if I was to ditch the water cooling, buying the fan you both suggest would only add another 10 euro to the total cost. I would assume one of these bad boys would be enough? Especially, since the case I'm buying comes with 3 stock fans aswell.

    Regarding the CPU and Motherboard, you suggest getting the 3570k because of the motherboard, but what about finding a cheaper motherboard, taking the 2500k, and then have more money for other parts?

    As for the PSU, I'm pretty sure the german site I'm gonna buy from have those PSUs, please, have a look and see if it's any of those


    Don't skimp out on a cheaper motherboard! If you do, you will most likely regret not getting something a little bit better so you could take advantage of a few features. I.e Overclocking for example; some/most Z77 motherboards are capable of overclocking, however, you will most likely run into a wall at a certain voltage due to the lack of decent power phases.

    Also I'll see if I can find the PSU we were talking about on your site :)

    Wow, what do you know? PCPAC is available in EU :lol: here's a very nice PSU that is reliable AND very quiet - http://www.alternate.de/html/product/OCZ/PCP_und_C_Silencer_Mk_III_600W/965416/?
  12. mocchan said:
    Don't skimp out on a cheaper motherboard! If you do, you will most likely regret not getting something a little bit better so you could take advantage of a few features. I.e Overclocking for example; some/most Z77 motherboards are capable of overclocking, however, you will most likely run into a wall at a certain voltage due to the lack of decent power phases.

    Also I'll see if I can find the PSU we were talking about on your site :)

    Wow, what do you know? PCPAC is available in EU :lol: here's a very nice PSU that is reliable AND very quiet - http://www.alternate.de/html/product/OCZ/PCP_und_C_Silencer_Mk_III_600W/965416/?

    Haha :-)

    I just read a few reviews on said PSU, and it seems to produce 43~44 DBa at full load, which is quite alot. The Corsair I've found is measured to 39DBa.
    Furthermore, I will not rule out that I might SLi in the future, so going with 600W might be too little?

    I slightly altered my setup.

    2 x Corsair DIMM 4 GB DDR3-1600

    1 x Seagate ST31000524AS 1 TB

    1 x GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H

    1 x Intel® Core™ i5-3570K

    1 x Noctua NH-D14

    1 x MSI N670GTX Power Edition 2GD5/OC

    1 x Corsair CMPSU-850AX

    I would say I'm pretty much settled with this setup, although I might still consider water cooling.
  13. If you're looking to SLI in the future, you will want to get more than 600w; the unit you have selected, the AX850, will provide more than enough power, so you're good in that respect :)

    Everything looks pretty solid! However, you may want to consider integrating an SSD into this rig to make your everyday computing experience much better.

    I'm not too sure of SSD prices over there, but I would personally prefer something like an OCZ Vertex 4, Samsung 830 or Crucial M4 :) Preferably in the 120GB+ range.
  14. Azomania said:
    Yes, I am currently considering a SSD, just for OS and a few games, I haven't actually looked at one nor the prices. I know the british website overclockers.co.uk will have a yet to be announced SSD sale tomorrow(3rd), so I'll most likely get one there, depending on what offers they will have of course :)

    Oh yes, I forgot about labour day! :lol: It would definitely be worthwhile to see if you can get an SSD at a reasonable price, it is worth every penny.
  15. mocchan said:
    If you're looking to SLI in the future, you will want to get more than 600w; the unit you have selected, the AX850, will provide more than enough power, so you're good in that respect :)

    Everything looks pretty solid! However, you may want to consider integrating an SSD into this rig to make your everyday computing experience much better.

    I'm not too sure of SSD prices over there, but I would personally prefer something like an OCZ Vertex 4, Samsung 830 or Crucial M4 :) Preferably in the 120GB+ range.

    Yes, I am currently considering a SSD, just for OS and a few games, I haven't actually looked at one nor the prices. I know the british website overclockers.co.uk will have a yet to be announced SSD sale tomorrow(3rd), so I'll most likely get one there, depending on what offers they will have of course :)
  16. So, the deal is a OCZ Vertex 2E 60GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G) at 30 Pound / 47 Dollars, which is well below the average price I've found elsewhere, but I kinda wanted a 128GB.. :-/
  17. http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Corsair/Carbide_300R/969210/? € 84,90
    Corsair Carbide 300R

    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Corsair/Carbide_400R/885420/? € 94,90
    Corsair Carbide 400R

    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Corsair/Carbide_500R/905086/? € 127,90
    Corsair Carbide 500R


    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/XFX/750W_XXX_Edition/838264/? € 109,90
    XFX 750W XXX Edition

    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/XFX/PRO750W/691358/? € 89,90
    XFX PRO750W

    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Corsair/CX750/1024261/? € 87,90
    Corsair CX750


    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/GIGABYTE/GA-Z77X-UD3H/993351/? € 167,90
    GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H

    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Asrock/Z77_Extreme4/990415/? € 144,90
    Asrock Z77 Extreme4

    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/ASUS/P8Z77-V_LK/1008133/? € 137,90
    ASUS P8Z77-V LK


    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Intel(R)/Core(TM)_i5-3570K/965973/? € 217,90
    Intel® Core™ i5-3570K


    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Cooler_Master/Hyper_212_Evo/915234/? € 29,99
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Cooler_Master/Hyper_612S/893290/? € 39,99
    Cooler Master Hyper 612S


    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Corsair/DIMM_8_GB_DDR3-1600_Kit/885866/? € 46,99
    Corsair DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit


    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/GIGABYTE/Geforce_GTX_670_Dual_Fan/1018397/? € 389,-
    GIGABYTE Geforce GTX 670 Dual Fan

    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/MSI/N670GTX_Power_Edition_2GD5-OC/1015106/? € 399,-
    MSI N670GTX Power Edition 2GD5/OC


    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Sandisk/G25-G3_Extreme_SSD_2,5_120_GB/972027/? € 94,90
    Sandisk G25-G3 Extreme SSD 2,5" 120 GB

    http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Samsung/830series_2,5_128_GB/987977/? € 99,90
    Samsung 830series 2,5" 128 GB
  18. Azomania said:
    Haha :-)

    I just read a few reviews on said PSU, and it seems to produce 43~44 DBa at full load, which is quite alot. The Corsair I've found is measured to 39DBa.
    Furthermore, I will not rule out that I might SLi in the future, so going with 600W might be too little?

    I slightly altered my setup.

    2 x Corsair DIMM 4 GB DDR3-1600

    1 x Seagate ST31000524AS 1 TB

    1 x GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H

    1 x Intel® Core™ i5-3570K

    1 x Noctua NH-D14

    1 x MSI N670GTX Power Edition 2GD5/OC

    1 x Corsair CMPSU-850AX

    I would say I'm pretty much settled with this setup, although I might still consider water cooling.

    The 850w is over kill. 750w is plenty for 670's in SLI and it leaves you plenty of juice left over. The motherboard is over kill for gaming and it's expensive. One other thing to think about is over clocking doesn't gain you much extra FPS with these 1155 cpu's. Something to think about before you spend a lot for a cpu cooler. You want a "balanced build".
  19. Why_Me said:
    The 850w is over kill. 750w is plenty for 670's in SLI and it leaves you plenty of juice left over. The motherboard is over kill for gaming and it's expensive. One other thing to think about is over clocking doesn't gain you much extra FPS with these 1155 cpu's. Something to think about before you spend a lot for a cpu cooler. You want a "balanced build".

    Thanks for your suggestion! PSU wise, I pretty much picked this one based on it's noise. I have trouble finding anything in the 700-750 range which is't too loud.
    I thought the motherboard was overkill aswell, but honestly, the motherboard is what I know the least about in a computer, so I just followed most peoples advice.
    For the CPU, would the i5-2500K be better at overlocking than the i5-3570K? I recon I would probably overlock, but in the end, if there is no real benefits from doing it, why bother?

    I'll take a closer look on your post above and check out the parts for sure :)
    Thanks again.
  20. Okay, I think this will be the final build.

    1 x Seagate ST31000524AS 1 TB
    € 74,90*

    1 x Intel® Core™ i5-3570K
    € 217,90*

    1 x Noctua NH-D14
    € 74,90*

    1 x MSI N670GTX Power Edition 2GD5/OC
    € 399,-*

    1 x Corsair CMPSU-750AX
    € 159,90*

    2 x G.Skill DIMM 4 GB DDR3-1600
    € 45,98*

    1 x GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H
    € 167,90*

    1 x Samsung 830series 2,5" 128 GB
    € 99,90*

    Total
    € 1.240,38*

    This is without a case, as this store does not have the case I want, however, I got a few questions about the case. After thinking, I think I found a problem with the case I want.
    http://i.imgur.com/MKlfs.png
    As the picture describes, there is a fan in the front, the HDD trays can be removed to allow air, then there is another fan at the back and one at the top. My question is, if the fan at the top will ruin the airflow? It will blast air downwards into the case, while the airflow should follow the 2 arrows.
  21. Azomania said:
    Okay, I think this will be the final build.

    1 x Seagate ST31000524AS 1 TB
    € 74,90*

    1 x Intel® Core™ i5-3570K
    € 217,90*

    1 x Noctua NH-D14
    € 74,90*

    1 x MSI N670GTX Power Edition 2GD5/OC
    € 399,-*

    1 x Corsair CMPSU-750AX
    € 159,90*

    2 x G.Skill DIMM 4 GB DDR3-1600
    € 45,98*

    1 x GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H
    € 167,90*

    1 x Samsung 830series 2,5" 128 GB
    € 99,90*

    Total
    € 1.240,38*

    This is without a case, as this store does not have the case I want, however, I got a few questions about the case. After thinking, I think I found a problem with the case I want.
    http://i.imgur.com/MKlfs.png
    As the picture describes, there is a fan in the front, the HDD trays can be removed to allow air, then there is another fan at the back and one at the top. My question is, if the fan at the top will ruin the airflow? It will blast air downwards into the case, while the airflow should follow the 2 arrows.

    Top fans and rear fans blow the air out of the case. Side fans and front fans blow air into the case. Also that Corsair AX 750w you have is manufactured by SeaSonic as is the XFX 750w for €109,00. Both are modular with the only difference being that one is rated at Gold and the other at Silver. What that means is your might save €1 a year on your electricity bill if your lucky. I would save the €€€ and grab that XFX 750w XXX Black Edition. Again Corsair has never manufactured a psu in it's entire history. Their upper line of psu's are manufactured by SeaSonic not to mention SeaSonic manufactures all the XFX psu's and SeaSonic is as good as it gets. Otherwise that build of yours looks good. :)
  22. Why_Me said:
    Top fans and rear fans blow the air out of the case. Side fans and front fans blow air into the case. Also that Corsair AX 750w you have is manufactured by SeaSonic as is the XFX 750w for €109,00. Both are modular with the only difference being that one is rated at Gold and the other at Silver. What that means is your might save €1 a year on your electricity bill if your lucky. I would save the €€€ and grab that XFX 750w XXX Black Edition. Again Corsair has never manufactured a psu in it's entire history. Their upper line of psu's are manufactured by SeaSonic not to mention SeaSonic manufactures all the XFX psu's and SeaSonic is as good as it gets. Otherwise that build of yours looks good. :)


    Well, the fan at the top, is pointed downwards, and as far I can tell, there is no place it could blow the air out, since the case is without holes at the top.
    http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=68

    As for PSU, I wasn't able to find the exact PSU you mention, only one that seems to be a standard, and it was pretty loud, while this Corsair is measured to 31DB(a).
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