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September 2, 2012 12:43:35 AM

Hello!

I've been lurking around the forums, and from what I can tell, this forum is extremely helpful! Below are the standards and links to what I plan on getting for my first build. Please is possible, let me know what you think, as well as if there are better options towards this build, but please at the same time let me know why it is the other option is better, as this will not only help me decide but also give me more insight so I don't break anything! :kaola: 

Approximate Purchase Date: September, after my MCAT, I plan on making one bulk purchase after 9/11.

Budget Range: ($1,500-$2,000) After Rebates / After Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (Gaming on high settings, HD Movies and shows, DICOM Imaging, School usage, 6+ years of usage bare minimum)

Are you buying a monitor: Yes



Parts to Upgrade: None Planned.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, I'm most likely either going with Windows 7, unless Windows 8 improves.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (www.newegg.com)

Location: USA; Denver, CO

Parts Preferences: What will be shown in the link.

Overclocking: Yes / Maybe (The Asus board with the new autotune if easier, may make it more possible)

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: ( Sony Monitor )

Additional Comments: (I would like to have a desktop which will be powerful yet will last me 6+ years even with all the new tech that's sure to come. Quite is better, but since it is going to be used as an entertainment PC mostly the noise might be drowned out :D  )

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: (Recently, I received a MBA as a gift, and because of that it has beocme my main laptop for school and business. I currently have a Sony Vaio VPCF1 which is an i7 laptop. I'm basing a few things around this laptop but since I plan on selling it, I want a desktop which will be my entertainment center while having my MBA for serious things.)

Include a list of any parts you have already selected with descriptively labeled links for parts. Please do not post only links.

Case: CM Storm Stryker
Power Supply: CM Silent Pro Gold Series 800W
Mother Board: Asus Sabertooth
CPU: Intel i7 - 3770K Ivy Bridge
Heat Sink Fan: CM Hyper 212 EVO
Memory: G. Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 X 4GB)
GPU: EVGA SC+ GeForce GTX 660Ti
Storage: Samsung 830 256GB SSD / Seagate Barracuda 3TB
Optical Drive: Asus Black Blu-ray Drive (Will this read and write?)
Misc: Possible I might also get an additional sound card, Wifi Card, TV tuner


If you're still here and about to lay some info on my noob self, Thank You in advance!
September 2, 2012 12:47:48 AM

your system wont last 6 years before being a pain to you. trust me.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ghDs

if you want to, go ahead with the 256gb SSD and the 2tb barracuda
optical media is dying. no point of a blu-ray unless you are watching them constantly

in my build, you can overclock and do SLI as you wish in the future
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September 2, 2012 12:51:27 AM

as for the motherboard, you can also get the z77-v pro as well for the same price. the main difference between the ud5h and the v-pro is that the ud5h has more hardware fatures and the asus has more software features
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September 2, 2012 12:55:53 AM

TheBigTroll said:
your system wont last 6 years before being a pain to you. trust me.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ghDs

if you want to, go ahead with the 256gb SSD and the 2tb barracuda
optical media is dying. no point of a blu-ray unless you are watching them constantly

in my build, you can overclock and do SLI as you wish in the future


Will it be a pain because it won't run well, or just be kind of behind with the tech? I'm normally okay with a bit of compromise into the 4+ year mark, but I'd like for a near 2K investment to last a while.

The optical media is there because I purchase my blu-rays, a lesson I've learned.

Overclock is possible for sure, why the i5 and not the i7? also, based on the average amount of research I've done when it comes to SLI, I don't think I would benefit much from it.

I appreciate the fast response!
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September 2, 2012 12:56:40 AM

upgrading beyond my build wont really result in performance gains anyways. upping to a x79 platform would be more future proof but there is no way you can use the extra performance given your usage wont use the extra power at all now or in the future

the i5 performs the same as the i7 in games. if you are doing a lot of photoshop and video rendering of that sort, then id get a i7

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September 2, 2012 1:03:21 AM

TheBigTroll said:
as for the motherboard, you can also get the z77-v pro as well for the same price. the main difference between the ud5h and the v-pro is that the ud5h has more hardware fatures and the asus has more software features


I decided on the Asus at first because of the autotune OC, as it will be my first time, I plan on getting the Intel tuning plan just in case. Will the motherboard you suggested be as easy or even better? Also, I looked into the mobo briefly, and since I do want wifi until I can get a dedicated space next to my modem, how would the GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H-WB hold up?

The whole i5 and i7 CPU is going to give me a headache lol.
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September 2, 2012 1:09:59 AM

seriously. auto overclocking? dude, to get a cheap and easy overclock, go to the bios, locate the turbo multiplier under a.i tweaker, punch in 40, press enter, reset and you get 4ghz

if you are a lazy guy, find the tpu switch on the asus motherboard and turn it on. it wil give you a nice 4.5ghz overclock/ just be careful as it could use too much voltage sometimes

the z77-v pro has wifi. so yeah, its probably a better option for you

i bought a i7 since it was on sale for 299.99 or so. i needed my system to last 5 years( or right after i leave highschool). figured out i might do some photoshop in my classes as well so i was like why not
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September 2, 2012 1:19:36 AM

TheBigTroll said:
seriously. auto overclocking? dude, to get a cheap and easy overclock, go to the bios, locate the turbo multiplier under a.i tweaker, punch in 40, press enter, reset and you get 4ghz

if you are a lazy guy, find the tpu switch on the asus motherboard and turn it on. it wil give you a nice 4.5ghz overclock/ just be careful as it could use too much voltage sometimes

the z77-v pro has wifi. so yeah, its probably a better option for you

i bought a i7 since it was on sale for 299.99 or so. i needed my system to last 5 years( or right after i leave highschool). figured out i might do some photoshop in my classes as well so i was like why not



Yeah, sadly since this will be my first custom PC, I want to be careful when it comes to OC. The auto features I checked out seemed like a better option for me because it did the OC gradually as well as gave the options for voltage control/regulation. Although this is only if I decide to go with the Asus that has the features in the mobo.
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September 2, 2012 1:20:45 AM

well since you are new to this, then go with the asus. its more foolproof for you. if you somehow brick the board, you can easily recover it

so yeah. you can flick the TPU switch, set the overclock level to medium in intensity, and let it do its stuff. after that, you just need to run prime95 for 12hrs or so to test for stability

if you need overclocking help, the guys over at the overclocking section of the forum can give you all the details. we here in the new build section help people configure systems and give them general information to get them going
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September 2, 2012 1:47:35 AM

pandaL said:
I decided on the Asus at first because of the autotune OC, as it will be my first time, I plan on getting the Intel tuning plan just in case. Will the motherboard you suggested be as easy or even better? Also, I looked into the mobo briefly, and since I do want wifi until I can get a dedicated space next to my modem, how would the GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H-WB hold up?

The whole i5 and i7 CPU is going to give me a headache lol.

Every board make has some kind of easy over clock type program. Asus, Asrock, Gigabyt, MSI....

Here's a build to have a look at. Just switch out the components as you like.


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Tower-Gaming-CC-9... $118.98 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO750W-Semi-Modular-80Plus-S... $111.71 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $101.71
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus 750 Watt Power Supply (Silver)

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-CrossFireX-DispayPort-Mo... $149.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA 1155 AMD CrossFireX/NVIDIA SLI W/ HDMI,DVI,DispayPort Dual UEFI BIOS ATX Motherboard GA-Z77X-UD3H

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Pro... $229.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-120mm-RR-212E... $32.32 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-Extreme-Masters-PC... $46.50 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Patriot Memory Intel Extreme Masters 8 GB (2 x 4GB) PC3-12800 CL9 Memory Kit - PVI38G160C9K

http://www.amazon.com/Lite--Super-AllWrite-Layer-Drive/... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 Version C (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $77.49 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Solid-SD... $168.64 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SDSSDX-240G-G25

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-N670-... $409.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 OC 2GB GDDR5 2DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card N670 PE 2GD5/OC

Total: $1,363.60 *includes shipping does but not include rebates


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Profile-1600mhz... $89.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair 16 GB Vengeance Blue Low Profile 1600mhz PC3-12800 240-pin Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit 16 Dual Channel Kit - CML16GX3M4A1600C9B

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $90.78 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_670_Power_Ed... <----- review of that MSI card w/benchmarks
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September 2, 2012 3:56:15 AM

Why_Me said:
Every board make has some kind of easy over clock type program. Asus, Asrock, Gigabyt, MSI....

Here's a build to have a look at. Just switch out the components as you like.


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Tower-Gaming-CC-9... $118.98 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO750W-Semi-Modular-80Plus-S... $111.71 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $101.71
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus 750 Watt Power Supply (Silver)

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-CrossFireX-DispayPort-Mo... $149.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA 1155 AMD CrossFireX/NVIDIA SLI W/ HDMI,DVI,DispayPort Dual UEFI BIOS ATX Motherboard GA-Z77X-UD3H

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Pro... $229.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-120mm-RR-212E... $32.32 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-Extreme-Masters-PC... $46.50 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Patriot Memory Intel Extreme Masters 8 GB (2 x 4GB) PC3-12800 CL9 Memory Kit - PVI38G160C9K

http://www.amazon.com/Lite--Super-AllWrite-Layer-Drive/... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 Version C (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $77.49 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Solid-SD... $168.64 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SDSSDX-240G-G25

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-N670-... $409.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 OC 2GB GDDR5 2DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card N670 PE 2GD5/OC

Total: $1,363.60 *includes shipping does but not include rebates


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Profile-1600mhz... $89.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair 16 GB Vengeance Blue Low Profile 1600mhz PC3-12800 240-pin Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit 16 Dual Channel Kit - CML16GX3M4A1600C9B

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $90.78 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_670_Power_Ed... <----- review of that MSI card w/benchmarks



If you don't mind answering, why is the GeForce GTX 670 or higher in number better than the 660 Ti?
Also, it seems I actually might be going with the i5 unless I'm dead set on an i7, but if I were to OC the i5, would it be comparable to an OC'd i7?
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September 2, 2012 4:37:38 AM

pandaL said:
If you don't mind answering, why is the GeForce GTX 670 or higher in number better than the 660 Ti?
Also, it seems I actually might be going with the i5 unless I'm dead set on an i7, but if I were to OC the i5, would it be comparable to an OC'd i7?

If the programs you utilize take advantage of hyper threading then I would go with the 3770K for sure. Here's a combo worth having a look at.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $629.98 save: $20.00 - $10.00 Mail In Rebates
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
MSI N660 Ti PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power... <------ review of that MSI GTX 660 ti w/benchmarks


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $82.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9Q-16GAO
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September 2, 2012 5:02:03 AM

Why_Me said:
If the programs you utilize take advantage of hyper threading then I would go with the 3770K for sure. Here's a combo worth having a look at.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $629.98 save: $20.00 - $10.00 Mail In Rebates
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
MSI N660 Ti PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power... <------ review of that MSI GTX 660 ti w/benchmarks


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $82.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9Q-16GAO



Do I need 16G of memory? I know the mobo has a 32G limit, but I'm not sure if it'll be fully utilized.

As for the mobo, I'm really torn right now. You're giving some really good ones and then there's the ones I've been looking at each having it's own features. In your opinion though, for my build and purpose, would it be better to go with a mobo that has built in wifi, or maybe the one with an easier OC feature, dust shield, ETC.?
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September 2, 2012 7:01:52 AM

pandaL said:
Do I need 16G of memory? I know the mobo has a 32G limit, but I'm not sure if it'll be fully utilized.

As for the mobo, I'm really torn right now. You're giving some really good ones and then there's the ones I've been looking at each having it's own features. In your opinion though, for my build and purpose, would it be better to go with a mobo that has built in wifi, or maybe the one with an easier OC feature, dust shield, ETC.?

wifi card > built in wifi. With the easy oc features...all boards have those today. Asus, Asrock, Gigabyte, and MSI....and all are very similar to each others. With your budget I wouldn't spend more than $150 on a board and you can pick up the Asrock z77 extreme4 atm for $115 and free shipping at newegg. But Asus z77 LK, the Gigabyte udx - 3h, the MSI GD 55...even the MSI GD 45...I mean the list for boards under $150 is about a half dozen or so and all of them solid imo. With the RAM it all depends on how much your proggies require. With 8GB you can always add another 8GB later on for a 16GB total.


Here's a couple of solid dual band adapters. Dual band is where it's at for wireless these days. You might find them cheaper on amazon.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $42.99 FREE SHIPPING
TP-LINK TL-WDN4800 Wireless N Dual Band Adapter IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n PCI Express x1 Up to 450Mbps Wireless Data Rates Support 64/128 bit WEP, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK, 802.1x

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $51.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASUS PCE-N53 Dual-Band Wireless-N600 Adapter IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n PCI Express Up to 300Mbps downlink +300Mbps uplink Wireless Data Rates 64/128-bit WEP, WPA2-PSK, WPA-PSK, WPS

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September 2, 2012 12:24:44 PM

the z77-v pro wifi is on a seperate module.

the 670 is better than the 660ti due to it having a wider memory bus
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September 2, 2012 6:43:40 PM

Here I thought I was ready to be close to buying. Not so sure anymore :( 
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September 2, 2012 8:32:48 PM

So, this is pretty much where I'm sitting when it comes to the hardware. I've decided on not trying to change too much, but I did downgrade to 1.5TB and upped the memory to 16GB total RAM. The only thing I need to really make a decision on is the mother board. I see all the benefits, but honestly I just want a mother board that will make this 1st build experience not too complicated and run everything smoothly. The last thing I want to to is get hardware that won't run well together.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...
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September 2, 2012 10:57:29 PM

adding memory does nothing to increase system performance in your case

1: seriously, the stryker?
2: id pay more for a msi 670 power edition. much better card. if not, get the msi 660ti power edition. evga coolers will be destroyed by msi
3:get a xfx xxx 750 as i suggested. you dont need more than that.
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September 3, 2012 12:03:46 AM

Let's be frank.

1. The case is overkill, but I like it and I want extremely good air flow to reduce heat and noise, I'll look into a mid size.

2. I've been looking, at so far I've seen some good performance data from MSI but the amount of issues I've read makes me want to stay far far away. I'll consider a higher end card like a 670 or 680 but dependability and least amount of problems is a HUGE factor for me.

3. Power supply, 750 is most likely better, I'll have to look into it.

Please remember, I'm going to spend my hard earned money on this, the last thing I want is to get something which is known to have issues or will be troublesome only a few days after I get the hardware and put it all together.
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September 3, 2012 12:54:43 AM

1: look into something like a corsair carbide 500R or a fractal define r4 white if you would like, they suit you better

2: msi is much better than evga. why people buy evga is my big question. they use reference designs and use reference coolers. what makes them better than a totally aftermarket cooler and pcb? problems exist with any manufactuers
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September 3, 2012 3:22:41 AM

TheBigTroll said:
1: look into something like a corsair carbide 500R or a fractal define r4 white if you would like, they suit you better

2: msi is much better than evga. why people buy evga is my big question. they use reference designs and use reference coolers. what makes them better than a totally aftermarket cooler and pcb? problems exist with any manufactuers


I've only really compared the EVGA 660Ti SC+ to the MSI 660Ti. From the reviews I read and videos I saw, overall the EVGA performed better but ran at higher temps than the MSI. When I read reviews, a lot of people seemed to have issues with MSI and then when it came to the customer service it was also just as bad, so because of this it has made me consider EVGA more. I figure if I were to get it, it would out perform the MSI and as long as I had a good case to keep things cool then I wouldn't need to worry as much about the heat since the average temps in the stryker was around 73. Granted I have been considering the other case you suggested. No matter what I'm going to try my best to squeeze the most life out of this build so if there's new tech, I at least know I have a case capable of taking in more hardware. For now though I'm back to the hardware shopping phase :( 
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September 3, 2012 4:09:29 AM

@ OP

For your price point, this is something I would prefer you to get. I haven't checked out the other posters' rigs, however, I feel this would be the optimal configuration for you to take.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ TigerDirect)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($75.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($96.49 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($384.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($66.79 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1189.19
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 00:07 EDT-0400)

1) You don't need an i7 3770k for gaming, however, you did mention some type of work, which I'm not too sure of CPU-load wise, and you did mention you wanted this rig to last 6+ years, so I'll incorporate an i7 into this rig.

2) Do away with the GTX660 Ti, its crippled memory bandwidth will hurt it real bad with upcoming titles/AA. GTX670 or Radeon HD7950 is a better value.

3) I'll leave the case out since everyone has their own preference for cases.
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September 3, 2012 4:35:42 AM

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@ OP

For your price point, this is something I would prefer you to get. I haven't checked out the other posters' rigs, however, I feel this would be the optimal configuration for you to take.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ TigerDirect)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($75.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($96.49 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($384.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($66.79 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1189.19
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 00:07 EDT-0400)

1) You don't need an i7 3770k for gaming, however, you did mention some type of work, which I'm not too sure of CPU-load wise, and you did mention you wanted this rig to last 6+ years, so I'll incorporate an i7 into this rig.

2) Do away with the GTX660 Ti, its crippled memory bandwidth will hurt it real bad with upcoming titles/AA. GTX670 or Radeon HD7950 is a better value.

3) I'll leave the case out since everyone has their own preference for cases.



Wow, you dropped the cost I was expecting to pay by around 600+!!!
If you don't mind me asking, could you please give me some insight into the differences for the CPU cooler, GPU and the mobo? I'm worried about the issues I've read about MSI, and since it'll be my first build and such, I want to make the OC process as easy as possible, which is why originally I debated ASUS.
If it helps, this is the most current list I have going. Wish List

Thanks!
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September 3, 2012 4:43:21 AM

pandaL said:
Wow, you dropped the cost I was expecting to pay by around 600+!!!
If you don't mind me asking, could you please give me some insight into the differences for the CPU cooler, GPU and the mobo? I'm worried about the issues I've read about MSI, and since it'll be my first build and such, I want to make the OC process as easy as possible, which is why originally I debated ASUS.
If it helps, this is the most current list I have going. Wish List

Thanks!


Sure thing :)  Here's why I chose the parts I did -

1) Noctua NH-D14 is one of the best air coolers on the market at the moment, and it will easily outperform/be on part with the Corsair H100. Since it is cheaper, why not?

2) The ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 motherboard has proven to be a very nice board for overclocking and is Tom's Hardware approved. It has a very beefy 8+4 power phase design so you can get very nice OC's for a very budget-friendly price tag.

3) EVGA is a very nice GPU manufacturer, however, since they did away with their lifetime warranty, it's time for you to move away from EVGA to different manufacturers. You primarily want to look at the type of coolers they implement as well as features that are available to certain cards.

The MSI card I linked features MSI's Twin Frozr cooler. It's renowned to be quiet, be around 20C cooler than reference coolers, and provide massive overclocking headroom. Also, if you would like to OC your GPU even further, MSI's Power Edition cards have an unlocked voltage control, allowing you to OC even further. Quite a nice selling point for MSI IMO.

As much as reliability is concerned, I would say MSI is just as reliable as any GPU board partner.

I think that's all I can think of at the moment, I'm having some 'brain farts' :lol:  if you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll gladly be of assistance.
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September 3, 2012 6:50:59 AM

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Sure thing :)  Here's why I chose the parts I did -

1) Noctua NH-D14 is one of the best air coolers on the market at the moment, and it will easily outperform/be on part with the Corsair H100. Since it is cheaper, why not?

2) The ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 motherboard has proven to be a very nice board for overclocking and is Tom's Hardware approved. It has a very beefy 8+4 power phase design so you can get very nice OC's for a very budget-friendly price tag.

3) EVGA is a very nice GPU manufacturer, however, since they did away with their lifetime warranty, it's time for you to move away from EVGA to different manufacturers. You primarily want to look at the type of coolers they implement as well as features that are available to certain cards.

The MSI card I linked features MSI's Twin Frozr cooler. It's renowned to be quiet, be around 20C cooler than reference coolers, and provide massive overclocking headroom. Also, if you would like to OC your GPU even further, MSI's Power Edition cards have an unlocked voltage control, allowing you to OC even further. Quite a nice selling point for MSI IMO.

As much as reliability is concerned, I would say MSI is just as reliable as any GPU board partner.

I think that's all I can think of at the moment, I'm having some 'brain farts' :lol:  if you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll gladly be of assistance.


Okay! So I've been looking and making changes, just a few final questions and I think I'll be ready to decide on a purchase day. I am just curious about a few things so sorry if it's noobish.

1. Difference in the RAM brands?
2. Change in power supply versus the CM I had previously?
3. With this mobo, will it be easy and straight forward when it comes to the OC or will someone like myself have difficulty versus the ASUS features?
4. SSD, 256GB vs. 128GB?
5. Last but not least, according to the harware and such, will it all run smoothly with enough cables etc.?
edit: the wish list link still works and is with the updated hardware.

Thanks so much for the help, I'm excited to get this going!
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September 3, 2012 12:33:46 PM

1:ram brands dont matter. oh and the gskills have roze in price so you might want to get these instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2:if you want to do future SLI, that 600w wont do it since it doesnt have enough coonectors. as i would suggest, the xfx xxx 750w is my first choice. 111 at amazon i think
3:with this higher budget build, you should really look at the z77-v pro board instead. if its too high, get the gigabyte ud3h instead. more features and overall a better board
4:just that the 256gb drives perform better and have more storage
5:everything should be included. you might need a 8pin extension given the stryker is a larger case

stuff is cheaper elsewhere. dont get from newegg
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September 3, 2012 9:37:14 PM

TheBigTroll said:
1:ram brands dont matter. oh and the gskills have roze in price so you might want to get these instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2:if you want to do future SLI, that 600w wont do it since it doesnt have enough coonectors. as i would suggest, the xfx xxx 750w is my first choice. 111 at amazon i think
3:with this higher budget build, you should really look at the z77-v pro board instead. if its too high, get the gigabyte ud3h instead. more features and overall a better board
4:just that the 256gb drives perform better and have more storage
5:everything should be included. you might need a 8pin extension given the stryker is a larger case

stuff is cheaper elsewhere. dont get from newegg


Okay, I'm going to look into the mobo more then. I just want to make sure I'm getting a good board with everything I need so It's pretty much down to the ones you guys have suggested in this thread. I don't think the sabertooth is something I'll consider anymore. As for the z77 v pro boards, which of the two would you suggest and why?

I looked into SLI, and for now I don't see myself going for it since I won't be needing that much crazy fps and I already changed the GPU to the MSI 670 OC. It isn't completely out of the door, but for now I don't think I would need SLI. Power wise, I just liked how it said it was a silent running fan and had good power ratings haha.
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September 3, 2012 10:12:03 PM

the two boards are good. obviously the v-pro board is better given it has better software and more hardware features in the package. in terms of overclocking ability, they should be the same given the ud3h set a world record for ivy bridge chips (im sure they broke it)

just that one has a more feature rich software package

just make sure the 670 is the power edition.

if you are not going to do SLI ever, id look into a m-atx build to save cost and space. ill configure one on request
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September 3, 2012 10:43:58 PM

ahhh, i remember how my current build started with a 1300 budget. im a student working on a double major in physics and comp sci and wanted to build a computer to be able to handle the programs i work with at school to run at the house with no problems...and have it last me through grad school...the problem is now my 1300 project has ballooned into close to a 2k one, with about 4k to go. all in the name of parallel computations and futureproofing. Personally i would go for a workstation board that would allow use of xeon cpu's, such as the asus p9x79 ws ( i have the asus z9pe d8 ws...awesome board but pricey). im suggesting the 2011 sockets for futureproofing as well as the quad channel memory for a greater bandwidth as well as the ability to ram cache(really cool). for 1200 bucks youd be well on your way to a very nice system.
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September 3, 2012 11:10:28 PM

jojobonzi said:
ahhh, i remember how my current build started with a 1300 budget. im a student working on a double major in physics and comp sci and wanted to build a computer to be able to handle the programs i work with at school to run at the house with no problems...and have it last me through grad school...the problem is now my 1300 project has ballooned into close to a 2k one, with about 4k to go. all in the name of parallel computations and futureproofing. Personally i would go for a workstation board that would allow use of xeon cpu's, such as the asus p9x79 ws ( i have the asus z9pe d8 ws...awesome board but pricey). im suggesting the 2011 sockets for futureproofing as well as the quad channel memory for a greater bandwidth as well as the ability to ram cache(really cool). for 1200 bucks youd be well on your way to a very nice system.


he isnt doing anything of such
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September 4, 2012 12:37:28 AM

jojobonzi said:
ahhh, i remember how my current build started with a 1300 budget. im a student working on a double major in physics and comp sci and wanted to build a computer to be able to handle the programs i work with at school to run at the house with no problems...and have it last me through grad school...the problem is now my 1300 project has ballooned into close to a 2k one, with about 4k to go. all in the name of parallel computations and futureproofing. Personally i would go for a workstation board that would allow use of xeon cpu's, such as the asus p9x79 ws ( i have the asus z9pe d8 ws...awesome board but pricey). im suggesting the 2011 sockets for futureproofing as well as the quad channel memory for a greater bandwidth as well as the ability to ram cache(really cool). for 1200 bucks youd be well on your way to a very nice system.


Crazy how easy it is to go from a smaller number to a huge number huh? I would like for the comp to be able to run DICOM programs but aside from that, I won't be using any other type of high end imaging program such as maya. Honestly IMO future proofing is in the user meaning that if I can run my entertainment on the highest setting for a span of 3 or so years before having to take it a notch down, I'll be okay. I lived off a computer from high school to the end of college which worked great for me :pt1cable:  . The big thing I'm looking for is ease of use and putting together since it's going to be my first build and I would prefer to not have crazy technical software yet, 1-2K is a lot to waste!
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September 4, 2012 12:41:39 AM

TheBigTroll said:
the two boards are good. obviously the v-pro board is better given it has better software and more hardware features in the package. in terms of overclocking ability, they should be the same given the ud3h set a world record for ivy bridge chips (im sure they broke it)

just that one has a more feature rich software package

just make sure the 670 is the power edition.

if you are not going to do SLI ever, id look into a m-atx build to save cost and space. ill configure one on request



If you don't mind, can you take a look at the list I most currently have also?

Do you think I would benefit from SLI? If it is something that I will, then I would want to do it right from the start... But of course if you would like to give me a new configuration to consider, I would definitely consider it. :) 
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September 4, 2012 1:03:29 AM

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Crazy how easy it is to go from a smaller number to a huge number huh? I would like for the comp to be able to run DICOM programs but aside from that, I won't be using any other type of high end imaging program such as maya. Honestly IMO future proofing is in the user meaning that if I can run my entertainment on the highest setting for a span of 3 or so years before having to take it a notch down, I'll be okay. I lived off a computer from high school to the end of college which worked great for me :pt1cable:  . The big thing I'm looking for is ease of use and putting together since it's going to be my first build and I would prefer to not have crazy technical software yet, 1-2K is a lot to waste!




i was under the impression that dicom was similar in function to matlab, which is why i recommended xeon processors and a workstation. after further research, i see your program can be run with 512 mb ram and a pentium cpu. lol i like your idea of futureproofing. to me, futureproofing is running 2 690's or equivalent with a tesla on a dual xeon mobo with 64 gb of ram, and trying to get to 7 years before getting another rig. if you can follow schematics or better yet instructions on how to put together a fabricated bookshelf,youll have no problem putting a computer together. if you recall Moores' law and build off that premise (and market trends), you can get a more accurate picture of how long your particular products will last. im not a part picker, im a thinker. good luck :sol: 
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September 4, 2012 12:13:17 PM

pandaL said:
If you don't mind, can you take a look at the list I most currently have also?

Do you think I would benefit from SLI? If it is something that I will, then I would want to do it right from the start... But of course if you would like to give me a new configuration to consider, I would definitely consider it. :) 


i wont really help with work but it does leave you a upgrade path in the future when the 670 cant run your games. i gave myself that option by buying a 750w psu from the get go. you can buy the second 670 when you see a good deal on it

id do it so i suggest a xfx xxx 750w power supply.
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September 4, 2012 10:26:35 PM

TheBigTroll said:
i wont really help with work but it does leave you a upgrade path in the future when the 670 cant run your games. i gave myself that option by buying a 750w psu from the get go. you can buy the second 670 when you see a good deal on it

id do it so i suggest a xfx xxx 750w power supply.


Oh, never even thought of it that way, from the threads I read SLI was more of an enthusiast thing or for people who need to crazy fps for rendering and such. Anyways, I think I'll put more consideration into it since I'm sure the 670 will be a lot cheaper within 2 years. I think for now I'm going to decide on a higher PSU and then make my purchase!
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September 4, 2012 10:46:51 PM

the 750w is more than enough for 2 670s
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September 5, 2012 1:07:31 AM

Right on, so if I get that with the intention of possibly going the SLI route in the future I'll be set! I'll keep you guys updated as it seems I've pretty much decided on the build :) 
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