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September 2, 2012 4:18:05 AM

Hi everyone,

I am new to the PC-building world. My current desktop is very outdated. It's good for general use but I can hardly run games on it. I'm looking to put together a new build for long-time use.

This is going to my first build so I would appreciate any comments and critiques from anyone. I'm particular worried about cooling and power supply.

I will primarily using this computer for gaming, graphics editing, coding, and streaming videos.


Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next two weeks.

Budget Range: $1300, $1500 with monitors.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes
I would like to get a Dell Ultrasharp monitor but they run a little on the expensive side. Any suggestions on cheaper alternatives? I'm looking for something between 23-24 inches with 1920 x 1080 resolution.

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: frys, tigerdirect, newegg

Location: San Diego,CA / Los Angeles, CA

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe Edit: After much consideration, No


The build:

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I do have one restriction on this build -- the CPU is the one item I can't change because I already own this.

Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Wondering if I can get by with a cheaper alternative? Alternative suggestions appreciated.
CorsairH80 (CWCH80) High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (cheaper alternative)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage: I'm looking for something between 1-2 TB, any suggestions appreciated!

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Would this be sufficient for this build? Any alternatives I should consider?

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Here's an overview link of my build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gium
Pcpartpicker averages everything to be $1276.66.


Thank you in advance! :) 

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September 2, 2012 4:23:58 AM

The $100 more for a 670 is worth it.
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September 2, 2012 5:14:30 AM

Here i just changed a few things to tighten up your build to make it more solid

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: TUNIQ Tower 120 Extreme 90.7 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($207.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($417.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1387.76
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-02 01:12 EDT-0400)
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September 2, 2012 6:22:50 AM

bigcyco1's build is OK. But you can do much better than that.
Here's the build i made for you.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($128.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: A-Data XPG SX900 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($413.78 @ NCIX US)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar D1 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: OCZ 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1512.66
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-02 02:20 EDT-0400)

It's a little over budget but it's very powerfull, features a much better HDD a SSD and a Sound Card.
It's also built on the X79 platform which means the processor can be upgrade to the upcoming Ivy Bridge-E processors.
The power supply is an old, top of the line model, the case is easily the best in its class and... well it's a very solid build
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September 2, 2012 6:23:44 AM

^ What he posted.

The Motherboard you posted is amazing (The P8Z77 V-Pro). Do not change it, you'll be more than happy with it :) 

As per the memory - I recommend you go with the G.Skill RipJaws X 1600Mhz. I haven't used anything better than it. And yes, like ^ what they said, spend a little more and get the GTX 670. It's an AMAZING card! AMAZING, literally.

And also, the main thing -

GO FOR AN SSD! Nothing! Absolutely NOTHING beats an SSD. People who think SSDs are a waste are WRONG! They're blazing fast! Imagine your computer booting up in 7 seconds! SEVEN. SECONDS.

GO FOR AN SSD.
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September 2, 2012 6:27:51 AM

My 2 cents here -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($96.49 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($384.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1350.38
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-02 02:27 EDT-0400)

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September 2, 2012 6:30:59 AM

Don't spend much on the cabinet. That's my say. Save up some money for buying another GTX670 for SLI in the future ;) 
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September 2, 2012 6:41:58 AM

arzbhatia said:
Don't spend much on the cabinet. That's my say. Save up some money for buying another GTX670 for SLI in the future ;) 

Personal preference for the case I suppose :lol:  OP can't go wrong with any of the hardware, though :) 
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September 3, 2012 12:15:50 AM

I took a bit of everyone's suggestion and recompiled this list:

I realized I would need to keep my budget to $1300 if I am considering monitors so I need to cut prices off from other areas.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
I've decided to go with a standard air cooler. Since this is my first build, I wasn't sure if I want to dip my feet in water cooling yet. It's cost effective and also sufficient for what I need.
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($193.58 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
I went with the low profile version for better air flow. :) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($128.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.00 @ B&H)
I took everyone's suggestion and decided to go with the Intel 520 series SSD at 120GB. With the additional of a 1.5TB harddrive I believe that should be more than sufficient storage space for me.
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
I'm still jumping back and forth with this but depending on prices I may either upgrade to the 670 (per everyone's suggestion) or stick with the 660ti.
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
I probably won't be doing SLI/Crossfiring. Maybe a bit of mild overclocking. I do prefer Corsair when it comes to PSU.
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1328.79
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-02 20:02 EDT-0400)


While picking parts, I'm always thinking to myself..."Oh if I paid just a little extra on this, I can get that." However, a little here and little there, everything eventually adds up! :( 

Anyways, let me know what you guys think of this revised build? :) 
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September 3, 2012 1:05:53 AM

Sandforce drives are great, however, I much prefer if you went with something such as a Samsung 830 128GB SSD, they're $96 on B&H at the moment and deliver better performance all around. They're made and designed by Samsung, so you still get very good reliability; even if you don't have the Intel name.

I would prefer if you went with a different motherboard. The ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 is a very nice option for the price, it's $80 cheaper and they can overclock just as well. I personally find that I can't take advantage of all the features my P8Z68-V Pro Gen3 can offer, so I feel it would be better if you invested that money in a different area. However, if you would want an ASUS branded board, I would opt to get the non-'Pro' branded motherboards as they can still provide massive OC's and still have the ASUS name to back them up ;)  (note: don't get LE or LX, just the normal P8Z77-V)

If you're getting a GTX660 Ti, why not invest a few more $$$ and get a Radeon HD7950? They yield more performance, even more when overclocked, and they're the same price as the GTX660 Ti. Give or take, they're around $309.99 after rebates. Unless you're a die-hard Nvidia fan, I would prefer you take the HD7950. However, if you take my recommendations of the Motherboard I wrote about earlier, you could invest a few more $$ into a GTX670. The crippled memory bandwidth on the GTX660 Ti may hold it back in the future with upcoming titles. So even if it's a great card, I would not recommend the GTX660 Ti unless you could get it for a massive discount.

Your case is fine, however, the Corsair Carbide 500R is only $10 more, so why not go that option? :)  It's a little bigger and has more features that would make it worth the extra $10. I'm not too sure if you can remove the HDD cages in the 400R but, that's an option available to the 500R that I personally find to be a deal maker. More airflow to the GPU's = happy me :) 

Your PSU could be a 550w, however, if you would like some more overhead/confidence knowing you can run any single GPU video card on the market, then a 650w is the way to go.

I think that's about all the gripes I have about your parts list :lol:  if you have any more questions, feel free ask and I'll be more than happy to answer.
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September 3, 2012 1:09:06 AM

Give me a second. I'll try a build.
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September 3, 2012 1:27:32 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP900 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($384.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1318.20
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-02 21:27 EDT-0400)

What do you guys think?
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September 3, 2012 1:41:13 AM

bctande1 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP900 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($384.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1318.20
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-02 21:27 EDT-0400)

What do you guys think?


Not too bad.

I would personally swap out the SSD for a Samsung 830 drive, but that's just me being anal about what my components look like :lol: 

I would probably swap out the PSU for a 650w unit, but other than that, not too bad.
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September 3, 2012 1:44:15 AM

Good job on the CPU, RAM, SSD, and GPU. Use Rosewill case, it's actually the one good product they make.
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September 3, 2012 1:50:45 AM

Oh and the motherboard.
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September 3, 2012 2:00:06 AM

mocchan said:
Not too bad.

I would personally swap out the SSD for a Samsung 830 drive, but that's just me being anal about what my components look like :lol: 

I would probably swap out the PSU for a 650w unit, but other than that, not too bad.


Thanks for the awesome feedback :) 

SSD - I really was contemplating going for 830, but the AData is very well reviewed, and is on MIR + discount :o  . 50$ is a good amount of savings for an SSD, but good advice. I guess we'll leave that to the OP :D 

PSU - You are also right there, but XFX is having this super-wacky saving marathon at the moment(it seems) and the 750W is actually less than the 650W where ever you look. Maybe we should just go for this Corsair --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -- It's 5$ more after MIR, but for efficiency purposes maybe it's worth it.

Good looking out ! :p 
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September 3, 2012 2:02:50 AM

montosaurous said:
Good job on the CPU, RAM, SSD, and GPU. Use Rosewill case, it's actually the one good product they make.


I appreciate the feedback .

About the case, I think the 400R is a very solid case for the price. It's actually Tom's Hardware Recommeneded -- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/solo-ii-400r-buc-ra...

In fact, I actually got the lower-tier 300r a few days ago to use for a build, and I really liked the design and airflow.

Can you post the Rosewill you'd like to see? Maybe the OP will be partial to it!
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September 3, 2012 2:20:17 AM

bctande1 said:
Thanks for the awesome feedback :) 

SSD - I really was contemplating going for 830, but the AData is very well reviewed, and is on MIR + discount :o  . 50$ is a good amount of savings for an SSD, but good advice. I guess we'll leave that to the OP :D 

PSU - You are also right there, but XFX is having this super-wacky saving marathon at the moment(it seems) and the 750W is actually less than the 650W where ever you look. Maybe we should just go for this Corsair --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -- It's 5$ more after MIR, but for efficiency purposes maybe it's worth it.

Good looking out ! :p 


Oh wow, if that's the case, it's worth it :lol:  I tend to -coughs- go overkill on the PSU at times, so that's perfect.

However, I do have one comment about your case :)  change it to preferably the 500R? It's only $10 more expensive if I recall correctly, and it has awesome features. (Obsidian 550D is based around it, so I know what the interior is like on that case) :lol: 

Also, about the SSD, if that's the case, then wow that's one wicked deal!
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September 3, 2012 2:26:34 AM

@ mocchan and bctande1: Thanks for the input :)  I really appreciate these explanations of why certain parts should be considered over others. Since I'm a first time builder, I have a tendency to lean towards branded names like Asus since I honestly don't know any better. However the price on the AsRock board is definitely worth considering. I'm going to do a bit more research on it before I bite the bullet though. This would also allow me to reallocate more money into the GPU for the 670.

The Corsair 500R case was also one I was deciding to swap out the 400R for. The white case looks slick! :) 

As for the SSD, again I went for intel because of their reputation and I heard their SSDs are build more for stability than performance. How would you guys rate the reliability of A-data's or Samsung's SSDs? When it comes to drives, I would definitely pay more for reliability.

Oh! One more thing. If i go for the 670, will I need to up my PSU/CPU cooler?
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September 3, 2012 2:27:32 AM

mocchan said:
Oh wow, if that's the case, it's worth it :lol:  I tend to -coughs- go overkill on the PSU at times, so that's perfect.

However, I do have one comment about your case :)  change it to preferably the 500R? It's only $10 more expensive if I recall correctly, and it has awesome features. (Obsidian 550D is based around it, so I know what the interior is like on that case) :lol: 

Also, about the SSD, if that's the case, then wow that's one wicked deal!


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP900 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($384.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1328.21
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-02 22:22 EDT-0400)

I changed the case to the 500r

I'f the OP is willing to go 28$ over budget, He's in for a GODLY computing experience. :ouch: 
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September 3, 2012 2:37:16 AM

happypotato said:
@ mocchan and bctande1: Thanks for the input :)  I really appreciate these explanations of why certain parts should be considered over others. Since I'm a first time builder, I have a tendency to lean towards branded names like Asus since I honestly don't know any better. However the price on the AsRock board is definitely worth considering. I'm going to do a bit more research on it before I bite the bullet though. This would also allow me to reallocate more money into the GPU for the 670.

The Corsair 500R case was also one I was deciding to swap out the 400R for. The white case looks slick! :) 

As for the SSD, again I went for intel because of their reputation and I heard their SSDs are build more for stability than performance. How would you guys rate the reliability of A-data's or Samsung's SSDs? When it comes to drives, I would definitely pay more for reliability.

Oh! One more thing. If i go for the 670, will I need to up my PSU/CPU cooler?


No, you wouldn't have to change any components at the moment to accommodate the GTX670, your rig is very well balanced from what I can see.

However, the reliability on the Samsung drives are extremely high as they are designed AND made by Samsung themselves; this allows Samsung to cherry pick all the best components for their drives and sell the left overs to other companies such as OCZ, etc.

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September 3, 2012 2:37:43 AM

bctande1 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP900 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($384.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1328.21
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-02 22:22 EDT-0400)

I changed the case to the 500r

I'f the OP is willing to go 28$ over budget, He's in for a GODLY computing experience. :ouch: 


Definitely, this is looking like a sexy build :lol: 
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September 3, 2012 2:40:25 AM

happypotato said:
@ mocchan and bctande1: Thanks for the input :)  I really appreciate these explanations of why certain parts should be considered over others. Since I'm a first time builder, I have a tendency to lean towards branded names like Asus since I honestly don't know any better. However the price on the AsRock board is definitely worth considering. I'm going to do a bit more research on it before I bite the bullet though. This would also allow me to reallocate more money into the GPU for the 670.

The Corsair 500R case was also one I was deciding to swap out the 400R for. The white case looks slick! :) 

As for the SSD, again I went for intel because of their reputation and I heard their SSDs are build more for stability than performance. How would you guys rate the reliability of A-data's or Samsung's SSDs? When it comes to drives, I would definitely pay more for reliability.

Oh! One more thing. If i go for the 670, will I need to up my PSU/CPU cooler?


Case - I agree the white looks so sweet.

SSD - Intel is a bit behind in the SSD game at the moment. I'd if they've updated their line-up to compete with the new OCZs, Samsung 830s and such. The A-Data I recommended, upon realease, was generally well-recieved, and a firmware came in July to increase performance for the SandForce basde drive.

Not at all, the 670 will definitely run on 750W(even when SLIed) and the Hyper will keep up well. You won't need to OC the 3770k much at all to remove any bottleneck.
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September 3, 2012 2:55:17 AM

Mocchan is definitely correct about Samsung drives, however. A-Data has been up-and-coming. If you wanna go for the smaller capacity Samsung to save on cost, no problem. Maybe I can find another drive.
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September 3, 2012 3:00:10 AM

bctande1 said:
Mocchan is definitely correct about Samsung drives, however. A-Data has been up-and-coming. If you wanna go for the smaller capacity Samsung to save on cost, no problem. Maybe I can find another drive.

Oops, I forgot to add the other SSD's in my post :lol:  however, the A-Data drives seem to be very decent, and to be honest, most SSD's this generation seem to be of equal quality and will perform head-to-head with the competition; you can't go wrong with any of them.
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September 3, 2012 3:06:12 AM

happypotato said:
Another question:

If the Intel BOXDZ77BH55K LGA mobo was the same price as the AsRock board, which would you guys go for?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Edit:
Whoops I mean the Intel DZ77GA-70K.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would also appreciate comments on the BOXDZ77BH55K mobo.


For that price, I would prefer to get the ASUS P8Z77-V Pro Motherboard, it has much better features IMO.
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September 3, 2012 3:09:12 AM

happypotato said:
Another question:

If the Intel BOXDZ77BH55K LGA mobo was the same price as the AsRock board, which would you guys go for?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Go for AsRock no doubt. The Extreme4 is one of the best-reviewed boards out right now, capturing the delight of many testers such as Anandtech. AsRock uses a good quality VRM design, employing Gold capacitors, an 8+4 digital power phase design and good quality MOSFETS and chokes to increase MOBO lifespan and stabilize overclocks. Additionally, ASRock's board plethora of features such as a good-performing UEFI BIOS and XFast to help optimize the entire experience as a whole. Intel is not really on the MOBO edge yet.
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September 3, 2012 3:20:17 AM

In terms of video cards, MSI over EVGA? Why?
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September 3, 2012 3:28:08 AM

happypotato said:
In terms of video cards, MSI over EVGA? Why?

EVGA got rid of their lifetime warranty and are often times using Reference design coolers.

MSI has gotten a very good reputation with their Twin Frozr series of cards; even more so with their Power Edition cards due to their massive OC headroom.
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September 3, 2012 3:33:45 AM

happypotato said:
In terms of video cards, MSI over EVGA? Why?


EVGA, in this case, ships their card with a weak(and not to mention, ugly :heink:  ) refrence fan solution(meaning the GPU only has one fairly weak fan). The only thing they really change is the aesthetics but not much else in terms of PCB, power phases, heat pips, heat fins etc. MSI, on the other hand, completely optimized almost every component of their GPUs to support stable, efficient overclocking with their stellar Afterburner overclocking software(The cooling solution for MSI is called TwinFrozr). Very well reviewed card.

MSI has a great product at hand with the Power edition of the GeForce GTX 670. The GeForce GTX 670 seen as a default product obviously already is a very strong product. We find it to be a much more appealing product compared to the GTX 680 really, the price is much better and the performance really doesn't differ that much. -- From Guru 3D

In typical fashion we find ourselves extremely impressed with what MSI is offering us with the Power Edition version of the NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670. It's overclocking ability and cooler help separate it from a lot of other video cards that try to stand out these days. One of the cool things, though, about the Power Edition here today is that outside of its overclocking ability, the clocks that MSI offer out of the box are one of the strongest on the market, which we have seen so far.
-- TweakTown

Reviewing this overclocked MSI GTX670 Power Edition today reaffirms my views on the discrete graphics market this summer.
Nvidia’s GTX670 is the best value for money high end solution available to the enthusiast audience right now.
-- KitGuru
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September 3, 2012 3:37:47 AM

bctande1 said:
EVGA, in this case, ships their card with a weak(and not to mention, ugly :heink:  ) refrence fan solution(meaning the GPU only has one fairly weak fan). The only thing they really change is the aesthetics but not much else in terms of PCB, power phases, heat pips, heat fins etc. MSI, on the other hand, completely optimized almost every component of their GPUs to support stable, efficient overclocking with their stellar Afterburner overclocking software(The cooling solution for MSI is called TwinFrozr). Very well reviewed card.

MSI has a great product at hand with the Power edition of the GeForce GTX 670. The GeForce GTX 670 seen as a default product obviously already is a very strong product. We find it to be a much more appealing product compared to the GTX 680 really, the price is much better and the performance really doesn't differ that much. -- From Guru 3D

In typical fashion we find ourselves extremely impressed with what MSI is offering us with the Power Edition version of the NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670. It's overclocking ability and cooler help separate it from a lot of other video cards that try to stand out these days. One of the cool things, though, about the Power Edition here today is that outside of its overclocking ability, the clocks that MSI offer out of the box are one of the strongest on the market, which we have seen so far.
-- TweakTown

Reviewing this overclocked MSI GTX670 Power Edition today reaffirms my views on the discrete graphics market this summer.
Nvidia’s GTX670 is the best value for money high end solution available to the enthusiast audience right now.
-- KitGuru


+1 Great input
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September 3, 2012 3:44:55 AM

Awesome guys. Thank you so much for the input. I wish I could give both of you the best answer.

I'm going to mull over this for the rest of the night and post my final build for one more review.
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September 3, 2012 3:49:54 AM

happypotato said:
Awesome guys. Thank you so much for the input. I wish I could give both of you the best answer.

I'm going to mull over this for the rest of the night and post my final build for one more review.


I'd say don't even pick a best answer -- Mocchan helped you just as much as me(Team effort! :D  )

I'd say think about what you absoloutely need and what you're willing to give up. As far as I can see, the most give-able up-able thing is a downgrade from a GTX 670 to a 7870GHz edition, which can definitely overclock to GTX 670 stock speeds, and has the potential to get you under 1300$ in price. But I don't want to impose anything on you -- think up ! :p 
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September 3, 2012 3:57:02 AM

bctande1 said:
I'd say don't even pick a best answer -- Mocchan helped you just as much as me(Team effort! :D  )

I'd say think about what you absoloutely need and what you're willing to give up. As far as I can see, the most give-able up-able thing is a downgrade from a GTX 670 to a 7870GHz edition, which can definitely overclock to GTX 670 stock speeds, and has the potential to get you under 1300$ in price. But I don't want to impose anything on you -- think up ! :p 

I definitely agree about the HD7870; that card has so much potential for a very reasonable price! Or option #2, Radeon HD7950, it's around the $300 price point and it performs even better :) 

And woots! for team effort! :D  :lol: 
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September 3, 2012 4:01:44 AM

pandaL said:
This is interesting, I'm also in the market for my 1st custom build and what I decided on before coming here for help is almost exactly the same as yours. I've only had input from two people but it's been all over the place. I'm starting to think I might as well just go with what I have!

I just checked your thread, your parts list is actually pretty decent for your first rig :) 

However, I do have a few recommendations, which I'll post on your thread :lol: 
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September 3, 2012 4:02:37 AM

This is interesting, I'm also in the market for my 1st custom build and what I decided on before coming here for help is almost exactly the same as yours. I've only had input from two people but it's been all over the place. I'm starting to think I might as well just go with what I have!
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September 3, 2012 4:03:11 AM

pandaL said:
This is interesting, I'm also in the market for my 1st custom build and what I decided on before coming here for help is almost exactly the same as yours. I've only had input from two people but it's been all over the place. I'm starting to think I might as well just go with what I have!


I think that every build is completely unique to the user. If you start a new threat, and link it, I'm sure we can give you some help ! I wouldn't want you blindly buying a build off the assumption that it conforms to your needs. There may be points of differentiation we can assess. :) 
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September 3, 2012 4:33:50 AM

bctande1 said:
I think that every build is completely unique to the user. If you start a new threat, and link it, I'm sure we can give you some help ! I wouldn't want you blindly buying a build off the assumption that it conforms to your needs. There may be points of differentiation we can assess. :) 


My Thread
Thanks! :D 
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September 6, 2012 6:33:43 AM

bctande1 said:
I'd say don't even pick a best answer -- Mocchan helped you just as much as me(Team effort! :D  )

I'd say think about what you absoloutely need and what you're willing to give up. As far as I can see, the most give-able up-able thing is a downgrade from a GTX 670 to a 7870GHz edition, which can definitely overclock to GTX 670 stock speeds, and has the potential to get you under 1300$ in price. But I don't want to impose anything on you -- think up ! :p 


mocchan said:
I definitely agree about the HD7870; that card has so much potential for a very reasonable price! Or option #2, Radeon HD7950, it's around the $300 price point and it performs even better :) 

And woots! for team effort! :D  :lol: 


So I've been reading up on the HD7870 GHz GPU and I agree with both of you, it is a great alternative and probably closer in price range and performance to what I'm looking for. Do you guys have any recommendation on which HD7870 GPU is best?

I'm current looking between the following:
GIGABYTE GV-R787OC-2GD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition OC 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ( 11199-03-20G)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Every time I think I get closer to finalizing my build, something changes! I'm downgrading to a i7 3770 now -- own both the 3770k and the 3770 but will probably trade the 3770k with my brother since he seems more gungho about OC.

As a result, I'm abandoning the idea of overclocking. Not a total lost to me. After poking around, I've discovered the 3770 has VT-d. Better for me since I run VMs? :) 

Current build minus GPU:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($96.49 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $976.29
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-06 02:23 EDT-0400)

Not much changed, switched to 16gb. Also upped my PSU to 750W.
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September 6, 2012 5:20:32 PM

Just my personal taste but i would switch out Corsair 500R case for NZXT 410

very similar to 500R includes a fan controller and has many fans not to mention it has a clear side panel to show off your system. also comes in many colors

http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Phantom-Tower-Gaming-Case/dp...

also you can switch the top blue 140mm led fan and place it on the side and get 2 extra fans(preferably these ones http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0026ZPFCK/ref=ox_sc_a... ) so you can show off your system without getting any cathode lights(which are sometimes very bad)
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September 7, 2012 5:09:30 AM

boulbox said:
Just my personal taste but i would switch out Corsair 500R case for NZXT 410

very similar to 500R includes a fan controller and has many fans not to mention it has a clear side panel to show off your system. also comes in many colors

http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Phantom-Tower-Gaming-Case/dp...

also you can switch the top blue 140mm led fan and place it on the side and get 2 extra fans(preferably these ones http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0026ZPFCK/ref=ox_sc_a... ) so you can show off your system without getting any cathode lights(which are sometimes very bad)


Thanks for your suggestion. I'll consider it.
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