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September 2, 2012 6:24:47 AM

Hi guys this is my first actual build of mine but i might have gone over the top. I don't know if half of this stuff is worth the money im going to be spending on so tips/suggestions are greatly appreciated. Need some serious advice and im really undecided on this .Thank you

Approximate Purchase Date: Sept 15
Budget Range: 15000-2000 bucks

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies, multitasking and more high end gaming

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com dont really trust another website

Country: Usa building the comp myself

Parts Preferences: Intel amd has burned me a few times

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe if i need the power but i dont trust crossfire/sli usually alot of issues

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200

Additional Comments: Was thinking of making it white black and blue want to rip bf3 and gw2 on max setting> Future proofing would be great

Here's what i got so far:

Case: COOLER MASTER Storm Stryker $159.99 looks great and nice features
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor: Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz LGA 1155 77W $339.99 Want to oC to at least 4.0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooling: CORSAIR H100 (CWCH100) Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler $114.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard:ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 $207.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA GTX 680 SC Signature+ w/Backplate $529.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram:G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5" 256GB $229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage : Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series 1200W $239.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

samsung dvd burner for 15 bucks

TOTAL 2092 before taxes and shipping so i assume around 2200

trying to keep it around 2k while trying to make it look bad ass. so i think this rig is freaking amazing on paper what do you guys think? I feel like im wasting most of the things on here and could improve a few things. Any takers :D  if i can lower the price for the same bang that would be awsome
September 2, 2012 7:12:45 AM

The Storm Striker is bad ass indeed but on a gaming system you won't use the 3770K to its' full extent. It's meant for multimedia authoring applications (Autodesk, CS5, etc) where you will make use of the extra threads. Use the i5-3570K instead. And not only is 1200W completely unnecessary since a single 680 won't even come remotely close to using all that power, Cooler Master is horrendously unreliable in the PSU department. They use a lot of fake labels and certifications in that department. Maybe get something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you're going to pay that kind of money for a power supply get the Corsair AX 1200i, or get the PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKIII 1200W. Both are based on the excellent Superflower platforms and the Corsair gives you the added advantage of being able to control every aspect of the PSU via a built in USB port and included software.

And on a gaming rig (and any other rig for that matter) - not only is 2133 RAM overkill but Intel will void your warranty if they find you've been using it. Go with this instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And drop the H100 - if you're going to use liquid cooling either do the real thing or not at all. The H100 is a toy compared to something like a Swiftech Edge or any other real liquid block. And I've never seen any benchmark that proves that a closed liquid radiator is better than a strong air fan. Get this instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 2, 2012 8:06:32 AM

I agree with g-unit and for your PSU that's way overkill save yourself some money.I'd get me a quality 750w

PSU:CORSAIR HX Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...






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September 2, 2012 8:16:10 AM

That build is highly unbalanced, check out my signature builds.

my 1596$ build can easily rape your original build and my 2029$ build will put it to shame, specially if you modify them a little ;) 
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September 2, 2012 8:29:26 AM

Don't spend too much on the Cabinet and the PSU. The PSU is total overkill! A 700w PSU is MORE than enough. The motherboard, RAM and GPU, Processor and Cooling is great. And also, if you get a 700w PSU and a cheaper case instead, you'll probably save up some money. So then instead of getting the P8Z77 V-PRO, get the ASUS Maximus V Formula - Which is the best motherboard out there imho. :) 
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September 2, 2012 8:34:22 AM

$2027 .... saved ya $55 and gave ya 56% more fps, better rated case, much better rated PSU, low voltage RAM, faster HD w/ 3 times the warranty and ya can watch Blue Ray movies.

Case - $100 - Corsair Carbide 500R http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $95 - XFX Core Edition 850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $408 - ASUS P8Z77-V PRO w/ CPU combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl - Intel Core i7-3570K
$10 promotional gift card w/ CPU purchase, ends 9/4
Cooler - $90 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $52 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair LV RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII Same
HD - $200 - Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 64MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $190 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $47 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

WHY ......

-Storm Stryker gets a 9.2 for $160 and 500R gets a 9.25 for $100 .... in white, it's $20 more this week
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

-3770k has HT which will help in video editing, CAD and other apps that can use hyperthreading. Gaming don't use HT, save the $100 and get the 3570k

-Corsair 100 gets maybe an extra 1/4 degree over the better air coolers....noisy and ya now have the risk of leaks. I'd need more than 1/4 degree for that.

-GTX 680 gets 989 fps in Guru 3D Game Test Suite.... 1077 OC'd to the max......the twin 670's get 1679 fps, that's 56% faster
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...

-1.65v memory is a bit high for the already hot running Ivy Bridge memory controller. I used 1.35 volt set, buy two if ya want 16GB, two sets still $26 cheaper than the Gskills

-The MoBo we agree on

-The Samsung 830 is in the same performance tier as the Mushkin Chronos Deluxe, the Mushkin is $50 cheaper

-Barracuda 3TB gets a measly 1 year warranty. Barracuda XT 2TB is the performance drive and comes with a 3 year warranty
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

-Coolermaster Silent Pro 1200 gets a rather poor 8.0 performance rating
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

ya don't need more than 850 watts and the XFX Core edition scores a 9.5
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
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September 2, 2012 9:10:49 AM

Agree with everything said though I'm not much in the loop on Intel... though I would go Intel right now the way AMD has been dragging its heels. About the power supply ideas. Quality and reputation matter more than any wattage rating. Enermax if it must be the best. Seasonic for everything else.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Save yourself the scratch on the PSU and CPU and pick up a second monitor if you don't already have one. It's just really handy to have a second to monitor other things going on while you're gaming.

Memory: To add to what's been said that's a Dual Channel motherboard so why lock yourself in with a 4x4 kit when you can get a 2x8GB kit? A respectably timed CAS 9 1866MHZ (or even 1600MHZ CAS 8) would be a better fit and leave room for expansion. But I agree on G.Skill.

Video Card. Nothing against nVidia or eVGA but I noticed the particular card you chose has one of the worse reputations among the 680 cards. Any of eVGA's other cards might be a safer bet. Hey if you did away with enough unnecessary fluff you could get into a 690 (if they get back in stock) and have your system under 2K!
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September 2, 2012 2:17:24 PM

Thank you guys for all your input. I assumed somewhere i was screwing up :p  i kind of dont trust slli/crossfire. It has alot of problem with newly released games and only has real benefit with two monitors. Want to keep the i7 for recording so i dont take a hard hit like i would with the i5

swapping out a few things

Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99
Dont really know the difference other than the amount of sticks

Power: CORSAIR HX Series HX850 $164.99 eventually will prob sli
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: ASUS GTX680 second choice seems better for the money
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $529.99
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $539.99


storage: 2tb and a SSD OCZ Vertex 4 256G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $209.99

Cooler : CORSAIR H80 or h100 i really want this cooler Looks like theres alot of extra space hate when things are cluttered
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99
or
Phanteks PH-TC14PE 140mm $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for cooling I don't know if air is better or are these great coolers
keeping the rest the same More stable now? Any problems with these parts something i should know before purchase
Again just want to thank you guys for the input.
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September 2, 2012 2:42:12 PM

For your first build I suggest you spend half of that 2000

Get some stuff and dive into overclocking and get 80% of the highend perfromance for half the price then overclock

3570K
motherboard of choice higher end for future processor and ram upgrades
since you will have a 1000 in the bank
8 gigs of ram
128GB ssd nothing top of the line but something reliable
1tb hard drive or 2 tb green if you are a data hoarder
and 670 GTX or 7950 ghz and overclock the heck out of it
really high quality 850watt psu for future sli/corssfire or 1000watts for additional pwr for enthusiast overclocking or if you get really GPU hungry

so maybe 1200 or 1300 not a 1000
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September 2, 2012 3:00:49 PM

Eh I think you should go with Samsung Ram. Samsung makes their own RAM, Corsair doesnt make their own RAM, they buy it from suppliers and repackage it, they have admitted it. I've read quality control issues they have had in the past, probably not relevant and you will 99% chance not have any problems but the Samsung 30mm is smaller, uses less power and for many users can be overclocked very high showing its stablity. Ive read where people have switched and not gone back.
Not saying you should overclock it, you wouldnt notice a benifit.

About CPU coolers, it seems like water cooling cpu-coolers are better than air, but actually, they are not so good. I dont know too much about them, but some use fans to cool the water, so your going to have noise. The h100 at high fan speeds is 45+ decibels.
I recommend air cooling, and really your best choice is between the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo (30$) or the Noctura D-14 (90$)
The difference between these two is quite minimal for the price difference, but its your pick. The Noctura has 2 heatsinks and 2 fans vs 1 of each for the EVO. The Noctura fans are a little quieter and cool between 6-8C better than the Evo.

Do some research on SSD's, theres a huge difference in preformance between the best and worst ones. As for your HDD choice, Seagate preformance are not as balanced, they are better in read times but their write times are much much worse. Not to mention their horrid failure rate of the 7200.11 line. They never admitted fault, there are many horror stories on this. They have fixed the issue with their newer updated lines, but something to keep in mind, besides they have a higher failure rate than WD.
WD black has a 5yr warranty...

The difference between the 680 and 670 is not that big. For many people, the 7970 is overpriced at 450$, and that the 670 is a better buy, so to make the argument that the 680 is worth it at 500$ is a bit crazy. I recommend the MSI and Gigabyte editions as their coolers are some of the best. Ive read tests where the MSI is slightly cooler by a few degrees, so dont think more fans = better cooling.

I recommend these 2 for the 670
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A 120hertz MONITOR, there is absolutely no point to buy even a single 670 if your using a 60hertz monitor as you will Max out 1080p at 80+fps in every game.
I think charts that show fps for each cards are handicapped because their running recording progrsams. (running fraps reduces your frames by 10-20 frames usually) I dont know for sure if they can take that into account, side by side tests would be accurate, but your preformance should be better than theirs because their recording.


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September 2, 2012 6:01:30 PM

porchmonkey168 said:
Thank you guys for all your input. I assumed somewhere i was screwing up :p  i kind of dont trust slli/crossfire. It has alot of problem with newly released games and only has real benefit with two monitors. Want to keep the i7 for recording so i dont take a hard hit like i would with the i5

swapping out a few things

Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99
Dont really know the difference other than the amount of sticks

Power: CORSAIR HX Series HX850 $164.99 eventually will prob sli
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: ASUS GTX680 second choice seems better for the money
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $529.99
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $539.99


storage: 2tb and a SSD OCZ Vertex 4 256G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $209.99

Cooler : CORSAIR H80 or h100 i really want this cooler Looks like theres alot of extra space hate when things are cluttered
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99
or
Phanteks PH-TC14PE 140mm $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for cooling I don't know if air is better or are these great coolers
keeping the rest the same More stable now? Any problems with these parts something i should know before purchase
Again just want to thank you guys for the input.


Don't purchase low voltage RAM, and there's far better coolers than the ones you picked. Try the Noctua D14 instead of those.

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About CPU coolers, it seems like water cooling cpu-coolers are better than air, but actually, they are not so good. I dont know too much about them, but some use fans to cool the water, so your going to have noise. The h100 at high fan speeds is 45+ decibels.
I recommend air cooling, and really your best choice is between the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo (30$) or the Noctura D-14 (90$)
The difference between these two is quite minimal for the price difference, but its your pick. The Noctura has 2 heatsinks and 2 fans vs 1 of each for the EVO. The Noctura fans are a little quieter and cool between 6-8C better than the Evo.


The plastic blocks like the H100 are not that great. There's better liquid radiators with better cooling and better fans out there if you're willing to do a little creative Googling. If you want to try something like the Swiftech Edge: http://www.swiftech.com/H2O-x20-Edge-HD.aspx

That would be a better option than the H100.
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September 3, 2012 4:02:42 AM

I wouldn't let anybody sway me into buying a different case then i wanted as long as has good cable management options and air flow no reason to switch it your case has all that and more get it i would lol
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September 3, 2012 4:10:12 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU Cooler ($69.70 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme 480GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($349.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($413.78 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On ihes112-04 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1540.40
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 00:12 EDT-0400)

Here's a non SLI 1500$ build with an awesome cooler and case.
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September 3, 2012 4:28:40 AM

Personally I would be all over that Asus 670 TOP for its high factory overclock, improved cooler,heavily modified PCB, with an efficient VRM design to produce low temperatures, improved voltage regulation circuitry, much better ChiL controller , specially binned chip and voltage control and monitoring support that you won't find on most other non-reference cards. It looks aggressive to me and indeed is quite a monster let's keep it on the real not only does out preform all other 670's and the R7970 it does it without even breaking a sweat.Those are some of the reasons you'll see it get a 10.0 rating at techpowerup, something no other card has ever attained. Source http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670... Quote: "Overall the ASUS GTX 670 Direct CU II is the best card I ever tested. I simply can't find anything wrong with it". :o  once you own one of those cards

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September 3, 2012 4:52:28 AM

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:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
:na:  :lol:  ;) 
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September 3, 2012 4:53:38 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Personally I would be all over that Asus 670 TOP for its high factory overclock, improved cooler,heavily modified PCB, with an efficient VRM design to produce low temperatures, improved voltage regulation circuitry, much better ChiL controller , specially binned chip and voltage control and monitoring support that you won't find on most other non-reference cards. It looks aggressive to me and indeed is quite a monster let's keep it on the real not only does out preform all other 670's and the R7970 it does it without even breaking a sweat.Those are some of the reasons you'll see it get a 10.0 rating at techpowerup, something no other card has ever attained. Source http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670... Quote: "Overall the ASUS GTX 670 Direct CU II is the best card I ever tested. I simply can't find anything wrong with it". :o  once you own one of those cards ]http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9932/realsanta.jpg

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Yeah you keep telling people that but,

1) It's difficult to find

2) When you can find it, it's about $80 to $100 more than other top rated 670 cards.

3) There are quite a few negative reviews, and reports of it failing, take this small sampling for instance: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-121-...


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September 3, 2012 4:58:36 AM

1) not really it's called tigerdirect

2) Well worth it.

3) newegg reviews are not suppose to be taken as facts where the proof ?That's hear say written there.
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September 3, 2012 5:18:17 AM

bigcyco1 said:
1) not really it's called tigerdirect

2) Well worth it.

3) newegg reviews are not suppose to be taken as facts where the proof ?That's hear say written there.


If you want to pay the factory $50 to $100 (depending on retailer) to OC your card for you, more power to you. Some people also like buying extended warranties. If you're paying for the cooling solution, there are other 670's with excellent cooling, great overclocking potential and much lower prices.

You don't have to believe newegg reviews but if you believe the card is problem free then that's cool. I guess people at overclock.net are just making things up.

I'm sure it's a fantastic card. Is it worth the extra cost? Who knows. Plenty of very good sub $400 670 solutions though.
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September 3, 2012 5:31:38 AM

Jacinto said:
If you want to pay the factory $50 to $100 (depending on retailer) to OC your card for you, more power to you. Some people also like buying extended warranties. If you're paying for the cooling solution, there are other 670's with excellent cooling, great overclocking potential and much lower prices.

You don't have to believe newegg reviews but if you believe the card is problem free then that's cool. I guess people at overclock.net are just making things up.

I'm sure it's a fantastic card. Is it worth the extra cost? Who knows. Plenty of very good sub $400 670 solutions though.
the issues with the card were from a bad batch from my understanding but have since been fixed and yes there are other 670 that are good and cool well the MSI 670 PE would be a good choice as well the reason i feel it's worth the extra cost is heavily modified PCB, with an efficient VRM design to produce low temperatures, improved voltage regulation circuitry, much better ChiL controller , specially binned chip and voltage control and monitoring support that you won't find on most other non-reference cards.Tigerdirect sells it for $439.99 so there no $80 or $100 extra cost
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September 3, 2012 8:43:39 AM

bigcyco1 said:
1) not really it's called tigerdirect

2) Well worth it.

3) newegg reviews are not suppose to be taken as facts where the proof ?That's hear say written there.


that review doesn't include the 7970Ghz :( 
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September 3, 2012 9:01:35 AM

idroid said:
that review doesn't include the 7970Ghz :( 
They have review of 7970ghz search whole site the reason it doesn't include it is because that is amd top card the 670 is nvidia second or third top card so it wouldn't be a fair compare ;) 
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September 3, 2012 9:32:57 AM

bigcyco1 said:
They have review of 7970ghz search whole site the reason it doesn't include it is because that is amd top card the 670 is nvidia second or third top card so it wouldn't be a fair compare ;) 


but they both cost the same :/ 

anyways... there should be a comparison between at least 3 models of 7970,GTX680 and GTX670 and overclock DA HELL out them all and test them so we can finally get a clear winner because until very recently i was more inclined towards the GTX670 than the 7970Ghz but seeing how the 7970ghz outperformed the GTX670 openeed my eyes :lol: 
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September 3, 2012 9:59:59 AM

idroid said:
but they both cost the same :/ 

anyways... there should be a comparison between at least 3 models of 7970,GTX680 and GTX670 and overclock DA HELL out them all and test them so we can finally get a clear winner because until very recently i was more inclined towards the GTX670 than the 7970Ghz but seeing how the 7970ghz outperformed the GTX670 openeed my eyes :lol: 
lol i agree enough with the making us guess bs also which 7970ghz cost same i am not saying your a liar just want to know where to get them at all ones i see are $450.00 or more :) 
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September 9, 2012 12:55:11 AM

Best answer selected by porchmonkey168.
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September 9, 2012 11:55:38 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Oh o.k. never considered with MIR i guess because i don't mess with it sometimes i never received it other times take a month or longer to get back plus 13$ difference that would make it a hard choice for me :lol:  Thanks for showing me though mate i appreciate it :) 


Really?? i always receive the MIR in less than 2 weeks, it usually takes a week only
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September 9, 2012 11:56:16 AM

idroid said:
Really?? i always receive the MIR in less than 2 weeks, it usually takes a week only
Of course really what would i make it up for :lol:  maybe i just have bad luck considering the stuff i been though i would say it's very possible i wouldn't doubt anything to hard
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September 10, 2012 4:46:08 AM

Im dont mean to be a fanboy, but I always hear Nvidia has more and better features, I never hear any from AMD. Could someone enlighten me, Nvidia say they have Adaptive V-sync, Physx, CUDA etc. that are supposed to help games.

Personally on my 670, when I turned on AA and a few other features on my Nvidia control panel, Assassins Creed 1 looked much better.
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September 10, 2012 6:59:20 AM

Not many games support PhysX and CUDA is for apps that support it. Gaming doesn't. AMD is better with AF and NVIDIA is better with AA.
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September 10, 2012 5:41:33 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
$2027 .... saved ya $55 and gave ya 56% more fps, better rated case, much better rated PSU, low voltage RAM, faster HD w/ 3 times the warranty and ya can watch Blue Ray movies.

Case - $100 - Corsair Carbide 500R http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $95 - XFX Core Edition 850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $408 - ASUS P8Z77-V PRO w/ CPU combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl - Intel Core i7-3570K
$10 promotional gift card w/ CPU purchase, ends 9/4
Cooler - $90 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $52 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair LV RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII Same
HD - $200 - Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 64MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $190 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $47 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

WHY ......

-Storm Stryker gets a 9.2 for $160 and 500R gets a 9.25 for $100 .... in white, it's $20 more this week
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

-3770k has HT which will help in video editing, CAD and other apps that can use hyperthreading. Gaming don't use HT, save the $100 and get the 3570k

-Corsair 100 gets maybe an extra 1/4 degree over the better air coolers....noisy and ya now have the risk of leaks. I'd need more than 1/4 degree for that.

-GTX 680 gets 989 fps in Guru 3D Game Test Suite.... 1077 OC'd to the max......the twin 670's get 1679 fps, that's 56% faster
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...

-1.65v memory is a bit high for the already hot running Ivy Bridge memory controller. I used 1.35 volt set, buy two if ya want 16GB, two sets still $26 cheaper than the Gskills

-The MoBo we agree on

-The Samsung 830 is in the same performance tier as the Mushkin Chronos Deluxe, the Mushkin is $50 cheaper

-Barracuda 3TB gets a measly 1 year warranty. Barracuda XT 2TB is the performance drive and comes with a 3 year warranty
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

-Coolermaster Silent Pro 1200 gets a rather poor 8.0 performance rating
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

ya don't need more than 850 watts and the XFX Core edition scores a 9.5
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Shame on you!The Asus Top is on another level uses specially binned chip it is NOT the same as the non top :pfff: 
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September 12, 2012 5:54:03 AM

fire r a g e said:
Not many games support PhysX and CUDA is for apps that support it. Gaming doesn't. AMD is better with AF and NVIDIA is better with AA.



I hav a question, what makes a gpu run at a certain load. I mean in some games I get 130fps at 30% load and etc. (v sync off to see) But in benchmarks between graphics cards, when they show some cards hitting 120, and others 180, are the cards hitting 100% load? Could you adjust it if you wanted to?

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September 12, 2012 6:06:58 AM

xtwiinky said:
I hav a question, what makes a gpu run at a certain load. I mean in some games I get 130fps at 30% load and etc. (v sync off to see) But in benchmarks between graphics cards, when they show some cards hitting 120, and others 180, are the cards hitting 100% load? Could you adjust it if you wanted to?
That's false anyways Adaptive VSync works great and makes gaming very smooth.there are plenty Physx games that utilize the full potential of Kepler. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-... If you however do other things like use OpenCL applications, transcoding, WPA/WEP Cracking, RAR Cracking,Bitcoin Mining etc compute intensive then the RADEONS are far more balanced.

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