3d surround need advice

[bidithal]

im building a new gaming system this is what i have so far

Case
COOLERMASTER CM STORM TROOPER - GAMING ENTHUSIAST CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™i5-3570k Quad Core (3.40GHz @ max 4.60GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® P8Z77-V: PCI-E 3.0 READY, WIFI, SLI, CROSSFIREX
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (4 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
2nd Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
12x BLU-RAY RE-WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Memory Card Reader
INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX750 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (£86)

Processor Cooling
COOLIT ECO II FAT BOY PUSH/PULL CONFIG LIQUID CPU COOLER (£69)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
Office Software
FREE Microsoft® Office Starter 2010 (Limited functionality Word & Excel)
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Monitor
HANNS-G HS233H3B 23" WIDESCREEN, HDMI DVI-D 3D LCD MONITOR (£199)
2nd Monitor
HANNS-G HS233H3B 23" WIDESCREEN, HDMI DVI-D 3D LCD MONITOR (£199)
3rd Monitor
HANNS-G HS233H3B 23" WIDESCREEN
£2460

what i need to know is can 2x 2gb gtx670 in sli with i5-3570k @4.6ghz with the P8Z77-V: PCI-E 3.0 READY mobo be able to play bf3 ( well any new games out) in 3d surround vision 2 on ultimate settings ??? and if not ultimate setting what settings would i achieve or what gpu/gpu's would you suggest for such a set up ?? plz help

 

[hellfire24]

are you getting this as a prebuilt unit?

 

[bidithal]

yes from pc specialist as need the warranty got 4 little monsters at home

 

[bidithal]

sorry i picked the parts and they build it . i found a company selling a prebuilt 3d surround rig that used 2 670's sli with the i7 x model and x79 mobo and it claims to be achieving 268fps but this seems very high compared to what i see on other sites

 

[hellfire24]

building your own is pretty easy and-
costs less
performs better
looks better
overall better
personal satisfaction

 

[bidithal]

i know it costs less but i need the warranty( got 4 kids at home hence why i want warranty and not to build at home ) and i priced up the parts it only saves me £200 building it myself but that doesnt bother me i need to know if the cpu gpu mobo i have chosen will run games on ultra settings on a 3d surround set up

 

[hellfire24]

"can 670 SLi and 3570k can..........................."
yes they can but for 3D,you need more vram.go with 4GB 680s and overclock the hell outta em.

 

[bidithal]

ok do you have personal exp of this or do you have links to benchmark test that support what you have said not trying to be funny bout the advice you have given just want to make sure im 100% on what im getting been saving up for this rig for 3 years now as i cant physically work so want to make sure what i get is gonna do what i want it to as wont be able to afford to change things after puchase

 

[hellfire24]

http://www.bjorn3d.com/2012/03/surround-on-a-stick-single-card-nvidia-surround-tested/#.UEM3EIfxpls

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_670_SLI/2.html

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1904/3/

 

[bidithal]

cheers have had a look at them links the techpowerup actually suggest that on some games 2d surround runs better on 2 670's instead of the 680's in sli (skyrim) and the 3d benchmarks are not looking good it needs top be 60fps or over in 3d or 120fps or over in 2d and non of the cards on the bench's seem to reach this mark so thats telling me its not worth going 3d surround as gfx will not be able to reach ultra settings when playing 3d

 

[bidithal]

also the 3d mark bench's dont cover the 3d surround set up just single monitors in 3d and it struggles to meet the 60fps that is required for smooth game play

 

[hellfire24]

constant 60 FPS is almost impossible.but i am sure that 680/670 SLi will handle a 3 monitor setup well.

 

[bidithal]

its the 3d aspect that is bothering me in all honesty i know that you should half what your getting on 2d surround when using switching to 3d surround as general rule of thumb what i need is someone with a 3d surround system to post there specs and what they are achieving in games

 

[hellfire24]

most of the games don't support 3D and those who support suffer from driver bugs so good luck with 3D but in 2D,670 SLi is a pretty good setup.

 

[bidithal]

thank for all the help you have provided its appreciated it started as upgrading my current rig for 1k then a new build at 1.8k and know its 2.5k lol missis is getting pretty fracked at me lol

 

[hellfire24]

post your rig specs?

 

[bidithal]

my current rig ? is 6-7 years out of date would need new everything

this is rig otion 1
COOLERMASTER CM STORM TROOPER - GAMING ENTHUSIAST CASE
Overclocked CPU Overclocked Intel® Core™i5-3570k Quad Core (3.40GHz @ max 4.60GHz)
OC Settings Show/Hide
Motherboard ASUS® P8Z77-V: PCI-E 3.0 READY, WIFI, SLI, CROSSFIREX
Memory (RAM) 16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (4 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
2nd Graphics Card 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
3rd Graphics Card NONE
Memory - 1st Hard Disk 2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
2nd Hard Disk NONE
RAID NONE
SSD CACHE DRIVE NONE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 12x BLU-RAY RE-WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
2nd DVD/BLU-RAY Drive NONE
Memory Card Reader INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Power Supply CORSAIR 750W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX750 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (£86)
Processor Cooling COOLIT ECO II FAT BOY PUSH/PULL CONFIG LIQUID CPU COOLER (£69)
Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
Fan Controller NONE
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Modem NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND
Floppy Disk Drive NONE
Firewire NONE
TV Card NONE
Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
Office Software FREE Microsoft® Office Starter 2010 (Limited functionality Word & Excel)
Anti-Virus BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Monitor HANNS-G HS233H3B 23" WIDESCREEN, HDMI DVI-D 3D LCD MONITOR (£199)
2nd Monitor HANNS-G HS233H3B 23" WIDESCREEN, HDMI DVI-D 3D LCD MONITOR (£199)
3rd Monitor HANNS-G HS233H3B 23" WIDESCREEN, HDMI DVI-D 3D LCD MONITOR (£199)
DVI-D & HDMI Monitor Cables NONE
Eyefinity / GeForce 3D Vision NVIDIA GEFORCE 3D VISION 2 WIRELESS STEREOSCOPIC KIT (£105)
Keyboard & Mouse LOGITECH® K200 USB MEDIA KEYBOARD (£10)
Mouse LOGITECH® OPTICAL USB MOUSE (£5)
Speakers NONE
Webcam NONE
Headsets (VOIP) LOGITECH® STEREO HEADSET H110 - IDEAL FOR CALLS, MUSIC & GAMES (£12)
Surge Protection NONE
Cable Tidy NONE
Printer NONE
External Hard Drive NONE
Warranty 3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£69)
Home Installation NONE
Data Recovery NONE
Delivery PCS EXTRA-CARE DIAMOND DELIVERY - MON-FRI, PRE-NOON (£9)
Build Time Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Pricing Information
Price (excluding VAT) £2,091.00
Price £2,509.20

this build option 2

Case
COOLERMASTER CM STORM TROOPER - GAMING ENTHUSIAST CASE

Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™i5-3570k Quad Core (3.40GHz @ max 4.60GHz)

Motherboard
ASUS® P8Z77-V: PCI-E 3.0 READY, WIFI, SLI, CROSSFIREX

Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (4 x 4GB KIT)

Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 690 DUAL GPU - 3 x DVI-I, 1 x mDP

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
12x BLU-RAY RE-WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW

Memory Card Reader
INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT

Power Supply
CORSAIR 1050W PRO SERIES™ HX1050-80 PLUS® SILVER MODULAR (£155)

Processor Cooling
COOLIT ECO II A.L.C ADVANCED LIQUID COOLER (£59)

Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)

Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Network Facilities
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs

USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD

Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence

Office Software
FREE Microsoft® Office Starter 2010 (Limited functionality Word & Excel)

Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL

Monitor
HANNS-G HS233H3B 23" WIDESCREEN, HDMI DVI-D 3D LCD MONITOR (£199)

2nd Monitor
HANNS-G HS233H3B 23" WIDESCREEN, HDMI DVI-D 3D LCD MONITOR (£199)

3rd Monitor
HANNS-G HS233H3B 23" WIDESCREEN, HDMI DVI-D 3D LCD MONITOR (£199)

Eyefinity / GeForce 3D Vision
NVIDIA GEFORCE 3D VISION 2 WIRELESS STEREOSCOPIC KIT (£105)

Keyboard & Mouse
LOGITECH® K200 USB MEDIA KEYBOARD (£10)

Mouse
LOGITECH® OPTICAL USB MOUSE (£5)

Headsets (VOIP)
LOGITECH® STEREO HEADSET H110 - IDEAL FOR CALLS, MUSIC & GAMES (£12)

Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£69)

Delivery
PCS EXTRA-CARE DIAMOND DELIVERY - MON-FRI, PRE-NOON (£9)

Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Quantity 1

£2808 inc VAT and Delivery.

with option 2 i switched to 4 gb gtx690 it puts the cost up by £300 , the benchmarks compared to the 670sli is just a little better but when it comes time to upgrade i can buy a second 690 and sli that cheaper than replacing the 2x 2gb 670 sli

i also found the same monitors £25 cheaper each on amazon so buying them from there is a viable option for saving £75

im still debating if im going to have 3d surround or 2d surround

someone posted this link for me in another forum http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/39605-nvidia-geforce-gtx-670-sli-vs-the-beasttm/?page=3 it shows the fps for 670sli and single 690 and there is not much in it plus the person who posted this link runs a 3d surround set up with 2x 680 2gb i asked him what he can play and at what setting and this is what he posted

The 60fps or 120fps is not quite right. Anything above 30fps will give you decent performance in 2D or 3D. When switching to 3D the graphics card work harder and your fps will decrease, same with running 3 screens rather than one. I am not aware of any GPU whether single or SLI that will give you 60fps or 120fps in 3D with 3 screens for games like Battlefield not even quad sli GTX 690. I usually play in high/ultra on games like Battlefield 3, Crysis 2 or Batman Arkham City in 3D or 2D with 3 monitors. Mate I understand your queries and if I was going to spend as much as money as you are planning to I will ask plenty of questions, I think I posted like 100 times before I placed my order and I am more than happy to help you. For benchmarks you could have a look at the links below:

 

[hellfire24]

i would go with 670 SLi option as 690 SLi suffers from a lot of issues.