A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz or FX-4300 Quad-Core 3.8GHz

[frogsot]

Hello i need to know which cpu will be better for a custom build. i will be using a graphics card and i know that trinity is a apu and could be cross fired with the grapics card. But which is better for gaming and other tasks.

 

[diablo34life]

Hello i need to know which cpu will be better for a custom build. i will be using a graphics card and i know that trinity is a apu and could be cross fired with the grapics card. But which is better for gaming and other tasks.

fx 4300 is alot better, trinity is just a average cpu and average gpu. no point in getting one for a real builder. 4300 is better for gaming and video editing by a good amount. get the 4300 for sure

 

[frogsot]

can you recommend a board for use this to its limit? as well as when i need to upgrade? hopefully one under or around 100

 

[diablo34life]

can you recommend a board for use this to its limit? as well as when i need to upgrade? hopefully one under or around 100

yes get the asus M5A97 non evo version. it cost around $95 dollars. full atx size motherboard. 8 pin motherboard mobo connecter for better overclocking, supports 1866 mhz ram nativley and any speed below that, 4 dimm slots, all sata 6gb connectors, am3+ ready, any new processor from amd will work with it. i bought mine from www.newegg.ca

 

[frogsot]

it is cross fired so i will consider this board thank you for your help. what is evo?

 

[frogsot]

i was llooking for prices for the 4300 and fond theres another one thats cheaper and seems to be better. its the fx 4170. how do the two compare?

 

[diablo34life]

i was llooking for prices for the 4300 and fond theres another one thats cheaper and seems to be better. its the fx 4170. how do the two compare?

the 4170 is not better, you really need to research instructions per clock, new and old amd cpus, whats faster of them and make a pick. but ill answer you now. GET the fx 4300 lol ull be happy you took my word for it. fx 4100, 4170 is old. slower technowlegy, slower for gaming, and slower for vide editing. a good question is why are the crappy cpus like the 4170 still being sold for around the same price as the 4300? i seriously dont know. the 4300 should be atleast 30 dollar more expensive but its not. so dont let that fool you. if people will still buy older cpus that are worse like the 4170 then theyll keep selling them. just dont get screwed over here and make the right choice the 4300 is superior in every way, even tho it has a lower clock speed the 4300 is still faster then the 4170. then you can overclock the 4300 and it will be EVEN more better.

 

[frogsot]

alright thank you. now all i need to do is pick a gc and psu i may as well ask if you could recommend a graphics card under or around 100 il find the psu my self. right now im looking at this card VisionTek 900447 Radeon HD 6770 i absolutely need to have 2 dvi ports unless i can have 2 cards crossfired and use both thier ports?

 

[lostgamer_03]

At the price of only 10$ more the FX 6300 should be in your consideration too.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/5

Just look at the performance difference.

 

[frogsot]

i really dont need 6 cores and its not that much better and it cost more

 

[diablo34life]

alright thank you. now all i need to do is pick a gc and psu i may as well ask if you could recommend a graphics card under or around 100 il find the psu my self. right now im looking at this card VisionTek 900447 Radeon HD 6770 i absolutely need to have 2 dvi ports unless i can have 2 cards crossfired and use both thier ports?

its an ok card, i would go with the radeon 7770, very good card for a cheap price. check out the XFX models they are great quality and alot of there cards also have a lifetime warranty
heres the one i would get if i were in your shoes

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150597

lifetime warranty to

 

[lostgamer_03]

i really dont need 6 cores and its not that much better and it cost more

The 6 cores does seem to increase performance a bit, and the price difference is only 7,692%.

In some cases the performance difference is 8,475%.

I'd say it's a fair trade. But it's your call. Hope you get happy with the FX 4300.

 

[lostgamer_03]

its an ok card, i would go with the radeon 7770, very good card for a cheap price. check out the XFX models they are great quality and alot of there cards also have a lifetime warranty
heres the one i would get if i were in your shoes

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150597

lifetime warranty to

Radeon 7770 is priced similar to GTX 650 ti

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3233/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-review-gigabyte-vs-msi-vs-zotac-geforce-gtx-650-ti-vs-radeon-hd-7770

GTX 650 ti beats it by a margin, so if he would spend more on the GPU then the GTX 650 ti would be the best option.

 

[frogsot]

its an ok card, i would go with the radeon 7770, very good card for a cheap price. check out the XFX models they are great quality and alot of there cards also have a lifetime warranty
heres the one i would get if i were in your shoes

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150597

lifetime warranty to

the board you recommended does not have a 3.0 pic slot for the gc does this make a big difference?

 

[lostgamer_03]

the board you recommended does not have a 3.0 pic slot for the gc does this make a big difference?

Not really, but you can't get an AMD MOBO with 3.0, because AMD didn't update their socket in 2012,.

The PCI-E 3.0 supports 2 times the memory bandwidth as the PCI-E 2.0 does. GPUs like Radeon 7970 might see a difference of 0-1% in terms of performance. Nothing noticable.

 

[frogsot]

Not really, but you can't get an AMD MOBO with 3.0, because AMD didn't update their socket in 2012,.

The PCI-E 3.0 supports 2 times the memory bandwidth as the PCI-E 2.0 does. GPUs like Radeon 7970 might see a difference of 0-1% in terms of performance. Nothing noticable.

hey also the gc he recomened me does the card cross fire using a y connector or a internal cord? if its the y then wouldent that be less efficient?

 

[casper1973]

PCI 3.0 would make no difference at all.

The 7770 doesn't even come close to being limited by the bandwidth of PCI 2.0 - I don't think any single card does except maybe some VERY high end ones.

Only when you have 2 or more high end cards in Crossfire/SLI do you need to worry about PCI 3.0

 

[lostgamer_03]

hey also the gc he recomened me does the card cross fire using a y connector or a internal cord? if its the y then wouldent that be less efficient?

I'm not sure of the connecter.

Only the slot you put it in will affect the performance.

 

[diablo34life]

hey also the gc he recomened me does the card cross fire using a y connector or a internal cord? if its the y then wouldent that be less efficient?

dont worry aboput pcie 3.0 wont make a difference. it was created first by intel for a new feature to sell products. pcie 2.1 is perfectly fine u wont lose performance. in the future yeeeaaars down the road pci 3.0 may make a difference. but with the graphics card i recommened it will work pefectly in a 2.1 pci slot. also you can buy 2 of the cards and crossfire them for about double the performance. also amd has no motherboards out with pcie 3.0 there is no need for it atm.

 

[frogsot]

hey can i use half a 8 pin cpu power cord for a 4 pin cpu port?

 

[mohit9206]

fx 4300 is alot better, trinity is just a average cpu and average gpu. no point in getting one for a real builder. 4300 is better for gaming and video editing by a good amount. get the 4300 for sure

lol this one is funny.
The fx-4300 is NOT better than A10-5800k. they are pretty much the same in performance
id actually go with the A10 for the sole reason that should ever your graphics card goes bad in the meantime you could always use the built in powerful graphics of the A10. besides the FM2 is a better platform than AM3+. so id say get the A10 and an A75 or A85 mobo
as for graphics card a radeon 7770 is the best card for around $120

 

[FALC0N]

The 6 cores does seem to increase performance a bit, and the price difference is only 7,692%.

Price difference is seven thousand, six hundred, ninety two, dollars. Really?

In some cases the performance difference is 8,475%.

Performance is eight thousand percent better?

 

[FALC0N]

hey can i use half a 8 pin cpu power cord for a 4 pin cpu port?

Yes you can.

The 8 pin CPU plug on the PSU should separate into a 4 pin for boards the use 4 pin.

 

[diablo34life]

lol this one is funny.
The fx-4300 is NOT better than A10-5800k. they are pretty much the same in performance
id actually go with the A10 for the sole reason that should ever your graphics card goes bad in the meantime you could always use the built in powerful graphics of the A10. besides the FM2 is a better platform than AM3+. so id say get the A10 and an A75 or A85 mobo
as for graphics card a radeon 7770 is the best card for around $120

uh ya ur wrong the 4300 IS better then the 5800k, the 5800k doesnt have any L3 cahce at all, the floating point and other resources are stronger to. so dont try to correct people unless you know what your talking about. 4300 is deffintley the better processor. dont get the fm2 motherboard either because steamroller which is amds next gen cpu wont work with it, its only for am3+

 

[sarinaide]

While a A-Series is well versed and flexible even with changing between discrete and integrated, you will get a bit more peformance leverage out of the FX4300 which often beats out a FX8150 so from that point I say the fX4300 but I am a massive fan of the APU's and they deliver impressive peformance to go with a very feature rich platform.

If you get a APU id look at a A8 5600K + Asrock A85 Extreme 6 + DDR3 2133(minimum) maybe a HD7850 so you don't over do the GPU selection. It will offer you a fantastic platform with plenty connectivity and features along with high end bells and whistles.

The other would be a FX4300/6300 on a MSI 990FX GD65 with a HD7870, wont be busting the bank and will get very good performance.