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September 2, 2012 8:40:02 PM

Heya

I'm about to buy a new PC but need some advices.
I've done some reading and I'm set on some of the parts but could use the help on the other parts

Approximate Purchase Date: As soon as I figure what I'm gonna buy.

Budget Range: Around 1500.00$ before taxes

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Internet surfing, Watching movies.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: Everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.ca

Location: Montreal, Canada

Parts Preferences: Inter CPU, other parts don't matter

Overclocking: Maybe, if I can figure how to do it.

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution:
Need to buy one

Additional Comments:

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My current PC is like 6-7 years old. It still works and I can still play games after upgrading my graphic cards last year but I'm getting bored of playing games with the minimum settings.


Ok, so here's what got my eyes on right now:

CPU:
Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53570
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

From the articles I've read, it seems the i5-3450 would be enough, but there is only a 20$ difference for .3Ghz more. What do you guys think?

Motherboard:
ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Any other suggestions?

Graphic Card:

I'd like a Radeon HD 7870 but no idea which brand to choose.
Any advices on how to choose the brand or they are all the same and I should just choose the cheapest?

Case:
COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer SGC-1000-KWN1 Black SECC / ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX PS2 / EPS 12V (optional ) Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Power Supply:
Absolutely no idea!!

The guy at my local computer store recommended me this:
700W ATX Cooler Master Silent Pro M Series for 105.00$
But I can't find it on Newegg. ca

Is it a good choice or there is something else with a better value?

RAM:
The same guy told me to get 8gb of Kingston 1333MHz DDR3
Is this ok?

HDD:
I wand a SSD HD but don't know much about those.
That same guy told my to by one from the OCZ brand. Is this a good choice?
I'm also gonna need a non-SSD HD I guess.

Monitor:
Don't know much about that either. The guy recommended me this:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Any thoughts on that monitor?


Well, I think that's about it.

All advices are welcome.

Thanks for your time

Patrick

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September 2, 2012 8:58:15 PM

Give me a secont. I will whip you up a good one.
September 2, 2012 9:06:52 PM

Don't listen to that guy at the store.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.05 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.15 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($87.40 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($58.76 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.79 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($142.24 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($98.99 @ Computer Valley)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($54.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Mouse: Logitech G400 Wired Optical Mouse ($46.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1521.91
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-02 17:09 EDT-0400)
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September 2, 2012 9:10:33 PM

Gorrath said:



Monitor:
Don't know much about that either. The guy recommended me this:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Any thoughts on that monitor?


Patrick



What type of gaming do you plan to be doing mostly? MMO's, FPS? Monitor advice is the thing I had the most trouble getting here but as a result I found lots of other resources. Let me know what kind of gaming you're looking at and what your budget is for a monitor and I'll share what I learned.

Someone else will hook you up with ideas for rig components.

- J
September 2, 2012 9:12:49 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.98 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP900 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($174.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($359.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.79 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor ($183.45 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($98.99 @ Computer Valley)
Total: $1502.93
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-02 17:12 EDT-0400)

September 2, 2012 11:53:46 PM

hey there, ill help you out

buy from ncix. get everything into the ncix shopping cart and price match as many items as possible.

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/gndK

here are some prices that are wrong

hard drive is 69.99
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000...

if you want a cheaper 670, here you go.
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=71107&vpn=GV-N67...

or this one
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=71127&vpn=67NPH6DV5ZVX&ma...

each one is a small downgrade. from the msi to gigabyte, you lose overvolting which usually means more overclocking headroom since you can increase the power to the GPU. its not too much of a deal given you wont be overclocking too much

from the gigabyte to galaxy, you just get a slightly warmer cooler.
September 2, 2012 11:56:16 PM

edit. it has a monitor now
http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/gngE

the store guy is pretty good. just that he could do better. the vs228h-p is smaller but has the same amount of pixels=sharper images. the vs series is a thinner version of the ve series
September 3, 2012 1:29:41 AM

Jacinto said:
What type of gaming do you plan to be doing mostly? MMO's, FPS? Monitor advice is the thing I had the most trouble getting here but as a result I found lots of other resources. Let me know what kind of gaming you're looking at and what your budget is for a monitor and I'll share what I learned.

Someone else will hook you up with ideas for rig components.

- J


Right now I was planning on trying GW2.

I'm not a huge PC player. When I find a game I like I spend a lot of time on it, chances are, it's gonna be a MMO. Everything else doesn't grab my attention for long.

I'm not a FPS player so won't probably be playing any kind of FPS on this PC.
September 3, 2012 1:40:48 AM

If I end up never trying to overclock my CPU, the "k" on the CPU would be useless right?
Also, is the CPU cooler only a good idea if you overclock or it's a good part to get in any case?

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September 3, 2012 2:14:19 AM
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http://www.directcanada.com/category/?minorcatid=1746 <----- monitors

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GeForce_GTX... <----- review w/benchmarks of that Gigabyte GTX 670
September 3, 2012 2:27:31 AM

Is the GTX 670 so much better than the HD7870 that it's worth paying like 100$ more for the graphic card?
In the best value for august on Tomshardware, it says the 7870 has the best value seen in recent memory.
That's why I was thinking about getting this one.
September 3, 2012 2:47:02 AM

Gorrath said:
Is the GTX 670 so much better than the HD7870 that it's worth paying like 100$ more for the graphic card?
In the best value for august on Tomshardware, it says the 7870 has the best value seen in recent memory.
That's why I was thinking about getting this one.

There is a link to benchmarks that I posted at the very bottom of that post up above. Click it and check it out.
September 3, 2012 3:20:46 AM

Why_Me said:
There is a link to benchmarks that I posted at the very bottom of that post up above. Click it and check it out.


WOW!

This card looks awesome, guess I'll have to spend more than I thought on my graphic card.
Damn you Why_Me!
September 3, 2012 5:08:10 AM

Gorrath said:
If I end up never trying to overclock my CPU, the "k" on the CPU would be useless right?
Also, is the CPU cooler only a good idea if you overclock or it's a good part to get in any case?


One of you suggested a 550W power supply, another one suggested a 600W and the other a 650W.
The guy at my local store suggested a 700W so I'm quite lost with this part of my PC.
Would 550 be enough?

Also, if someone could answer that questions a few post before, it would be awesome:

Quote:
Also, is the CPU cooler only a good idea if you overclock or it's a good part to get in any case?


Thanks
September 3, 2012 5:28:43 AM

Why_Me said:


http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD1106&v... $100.34
ASUS P8B75-V ATX LGA1155 B75 DDR3 CrossFireX 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SATA3 DVI USB3.0 Motherboard

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8B7... <----- another look at that board


http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD5211&v... $38.15
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory


I just took a look at the website for that RAM
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=426

Does it matter that the MB you recommended isn't on the list or MB that works with those RAM?

Thanks
September 3, 2012 5:37:56 AM

Gorrath said:
I just took a look at the website for that RAM
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=426

Does it matter that the MB you recommended isn't on the list or MB that works with those RAM?

Thanks

It will work fine. Go into the bios and enter the timings and speed and your good to go.
September 3, 2012 5:41:58 AM

Gorrath said:
One of you suggested a 550W power supply, another one suggested a 600W and the other a 650W.
The guy at my local store suggested a 700W so I'm quite lost with this part of my PC.
Would 550 be enough?

Also, if someone could answer that questions a few post before, it would be awesome:

Quote:
Also, is the CPU cooler only a good idea if you overclock or it's a good part to get in any case?


Thanks

That XFX 550w psu I posted is manufactured by SeaSonic, has 44 amps on a single rail and will easily push a GTX 680. That psu gives you plenty of juice to spare.
September 3, 2012 5:48:49 AM

TheBigTroll said:


each one is a small downgrade. from the msi to gigabyte, you lose overvolting which usually means more overclocking headroom since you can increase the power to the GPU. its not too much of a deal given you wont be overclocking too much

from the gigabyte to galaxy, you just get a slightly warmer cooler.


What about Sapphire ans Asus?

I'm not set on the GTX 670 yet, it's a bit mroe expensive than I was willing to pay for a graphic card.

I'm still checking the HD7870 even if it's not as powerful. It's a lot cheaper though.

Those 2 looks cheap and already OCed a bit:
Gigabyte for 233.26$
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD8406&v...

Asus for 277.25$
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD5563&v...

Any thoughts?

Thanks
September 3, 2012 6:02:25 AM

Why_Me said:
That XFX 550w psu I posted is manufactured by SeaSonic, has 44 amps on a single rail and will easily push a GTX 680. That psu gives you plenty of juice to spare.


Do you ahppen to have some other suggestions for a power supply?
I'll probably gonna buy all the parts except the graphic card and the monitor from my local computer store because they'll put the PC together for me(I can't do it by myself)
But this power supply isn't available on their website.

What would be your 2nd and 3rd choice for a power supply?
Preferable something else manufactured by Seasonic. I think Corsair has their power supply manufactured by them as well?

Thanks for your time

Patrick
September 3, 2012 6:15:36 AM

Gorrath said:
Do you ahppen to have some other suggestions for a power supply?
I'll probably gonna buy all the parts except the graphic card and the monitor from my local computer store because they'll put the PC together for me(I can't do it by myself)
But this power supply isn't available on their website.

What would be your 2nd and 3rd choice for a power supply?
Preferable something else manufactured by Seasonic. I think Corsair has their power supply manufactured by them as well?

Thanks for your time

Patrick

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PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 600W ATX Modular Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze 120mm Fan

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Alternate case to have a look at.

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Antec Three Hundred Two Mid Tower Gaming Case
September 3, 2012 12:35:22 PM

the antec 302 is 39.99 after MIR at ncix. why go with directcanada?

if you dont know how to assemble a computer, there are a ton of guides on youtube. or you could pay ncix to do it for you for 50 bucks. makes sure everything is running and does a nice burn in to prevent DOA
September 3, 2012 5:47:15 PM

TheBigTroll said:
the antec 302 is 39.99 after MIR at ncix. why go with directcanada?

if you dont know how to assemble a computer, there are a ton of guides on youtube. or you could pay ncix to do it for you for 50 bucks. makes sure everything is running and does a nice burn in to prevent DOA

I used Direct Canada for the free shipping. That and I would hang myself first before I ever used PC Part Picker. It gives you ten different retailers and it throws in those bloody rebates like it's the total price and I count on rebates like I count on horseshoes and pregnancies. :) 
September 3, 2012 6:02:29 PM

you can change the prices to only display a single company
September 3, 2012 6:08:06 PM

TheBigTroll said:
you can change the prices to only display a single company

I might check it out one of these days. Iv'e done so many builds though using newegg and superbiiz using combo's that it's hard to change. That and I like hunting for those combo's. Sometimes I come across some good ones.
September 3, 2012 6:10:09 PM

i dont search up combo deals given i dont live in the states and that i generally prefer giving the guy a link to pcpartpicker where they have pretty much the best prices listed

i always find your listing format a bit cluttered but its detailed...
September 3, 2012 7:25:12 PM

If only pcpartpicker would implement Newegg's combo deals...
September 3, 2012 7:26:52 PM

it would be quite confusing though since many stores have them.
September 5, 2012 5:57:03 PM

Is the CPU cooler only a good idea if you overclock or it's a good part to get in any case?
September 5, 2012 6:03:54 PM

The stock one should do if you won't overclock.

If you are getting an overclockable (ends with K, like the 3570K, 3770K, 2500K, etc.), then get an aftermarket CPU cooler and safe yourself the pain on installing it two months later when you finally find out that you want to overclock. CPU coolers can be difficult to install after you have put the motherboard in the case.
September 6, 2012 12:01:36 AM

they are not too useful but they are in a way since they cool the CPU much better than that stock fan, resulting in a lower operating temp and a longer lifespan (not by much though)
September 28, 2012 5:58:29 PM

Best answer selected by Gorrath.
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