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September 3, 2012 6:50:40 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gpcN
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gpcN/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gpcN/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $757.22
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 02:38 EDT-0400)

That's what I have my budget is around 800 would like suggestions. Using for gaming.

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September 3, 2012 1:46:16 PM

Overall, not a bad build, with one proviso. A 450W power supply is borderline, at the least, certainly not enough, if you are planning to overclock. I would recommend taking the money you've got left, and invest it in a decent PSU. You certainly need, at least, 500W (if overclocking, probably even if not). Personally, I'd use a 550W, or 600W, to give myself a margin. Money invested in a good PSU is never wasted. A poor quality, or undersized PSU is highly likely to fail, and destroy half your system, along with it. Normally, I would say try to add in an SSD, but I think PSU is much more important, unless your budget will stretch to both.
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September 3, 2012 2:59:30 PM

luisg1407 said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gpcN
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gpcN/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gpcN/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $757.22
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 02:38 EDT-0400)

That's what I have my budget is around 800 would like suggestions. Using for gaming.



Don't use that RAM. It's 1.65V, you need 1.5V memory for your CPU. Something like this. Also, I don't suggest buying such a cheap power supply. You don't want your expensive parts being ruined by a crappy power supply. Get one of better quality. Everything else looks good.
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September 3, 2012 3:37:10 PM

My friend was suggesting on maybe getting a SSD first like 120gb just for faster performace then get a HDD don't plan on playing a whole bunch of games mainly guild wars 2 and LOL
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September 3, 2012 3:39:04 PM

Nanekud said:
Don't use that RAM. It's 1.65V, you need 1.5V memory for your CPU. Something like this. Also, I don't suggest buying such a cheap power supply. You don't want your expensive parts being ruined by a crappy power supply. Get one of better quality. Everything else looks good.


Could you suggest a better PSU and what do u think about a SSD rather then a HDD.
Thank you for your advice
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September 3, 2012 3:49:21 PM

luisg1407 said:
Could you suggest a better PSU and what do u think about a SSD rather then a HDD.
Thank you for your advice



A PSU like THIS ONE would work great for that setup.


And as for SSD over HDD, I'd say no.

I got an SSD and HDD. The SSD is only for my OS-Windows. The mechanical HDD is to keep all my files nice and safe for years to come. SSDs are not as well developed yet and I don't trust them when it comes to how long they last.
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September 3, 2012 4:04:14 PM

Nanekud said:
A PSU like THIS ONE would work great for that setup.


And as for SSD over HDD, I'd say no.

I got an SSD and HDD. The SSD is only for my OS-Windows. The mechanical HDD is to keep all my files nice and safe for years to come. SSDs are not as well developed yet and I don't trust them when it comes to how long they last.


Thank you. Helps a lot. If you have the time I would appericate if you could suggest a build for me for around the same price it would give me better selection.
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September 3, 2012 4:13:02 PM

luisg1407 said:
Thank you. Helps a lot. If you have the time I would appericate if you could suggest a build for me for around the same price it would give me better selection.



Do you need to buy an operating system? Such as; Windows 7? What about a monitor, keyboard, mouse?
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September 3, 2012 5:11:44 PM

Check this out and tell me what you think. It goes over your $800 by $25, but it's a rockin build.

If you can't do it, then I can put back in your graphics card. But that one doesn't have good reviews.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 1.25GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $825.21
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 13:10 EDT-0400)
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September 3, 2012 5:20:39 PM

Oh, I forgot about the XFX 7850.

Try this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $790.21
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 13:23 EDT-0400)
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September 3, 2012 6:17:56 PM

Nanekud said:
Oh, I forgot about the XFX 7850.

Try this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $790.21
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Gener. ated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 13:23 EDT-0400)



I like this build. Now if I don't plan on overclocking will I still need a CPU cooler or is the stock fine?
Also no I don't need OS and I plan on spend at the max 200 for monitor, keyboard and mouse but would prefer 150.
Thank you again for all your help makes it a lot.easier on me
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September 3, 2012 6:25:15 PM

luisg1407 said:
I like this build. Now if I don't plan on overclocking will I still need a CPU cooler or is the stock fine?
Also no I don't need OS and I plan on spend at the max 200 for monitor, keyboard and mouse but would prefer 150.
Thank you again for all your help makes it a lot.easier on me



If you're not overclocking, then you probably don't need the CPU cooler. But the i5 3570K is the unlocked version, meant for overclocking. The i5 3570 is the CPU you'll want if you're sure you don't want to overclock ever.

Here is the new build considering these factors.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $747.91
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 14:24 EDT-0400)
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September 3, 2012 6:43:50 PM

Nice build. Having saved a bit, might be worth considering the HD7870. Price difference is quite small, for the performance boost. Just a thought.
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September 3, 2012 7:39:47 PM

malbluff said:
Nice build. Having saved a bit, might be worth considering the HD7870. Price difference is quite small, for the performance boost. Just a thought.


What manufacture would you recommand?
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September 3, 2012 7:44:07 PM

MSI or Sapphire.
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September 3, 2012 8:18:43 PM

azeem40 said:
MSI or Sapphire.


Thank you if you have any other suggestions feel free to say
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September 3, 2012 8:37:06 PM

If you are not going to overclock, you don't NEED the K version of the i5-3570, but given they are virtually same price, it may be worth still getting i5-3570K, in case you change your mind in the future. If you DEFINATELY don't want to overclock, and go with the plain 3570, there is no point in having a "Z" motherboard. The only thing that GIVES you over, say H77, IS overclocking.
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September 3, 2012 9:04:19 PM

malbluff said:
If you are not going to overclock, you don't NEED the K version of the i5-3570, but given they are virtually same price, it may be worth still getting i5-3570K, in case you change your mind in the future. If you DEFINATELY don't want to overclock, and go with the plain 3570, there is no point in having a "Z" motherboard. The only thing that GIVES you over, say H77, IS overclocking.


I think I would stick with the k version seein that it runs a little faster and like you said I am open to possibly overclocking later on.
Thanks for the info
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September 3, 2012 9:14:54 PM

i5-3570K and Z77 gives you max performance, and the ability to OC, as and when you want to. Even if you don't, is hardly a big extra spend, to at least have the option. Just my, personal opinion. Lots of different ways to look at it.
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September 3, 2012 9:49:39 PM

malbluff said:
i5-3570K and Z77 gives you max performance, and the ability to OC, as and when you want to. Even if you don't, is hardly a big extra spend, to at least have the option. Just my, personal opinion. Lots of different ways to look at it.


Yeah I know what you mean but there is always the possibility of upgrading in the future. It's my first time build so im not to crazy on spending a lot sorta wanna stick to the budget that i put down. If you could give me a build of what you think I could get for 800 dollars it would be great.
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September 3, 2012 9:53:02 PM

Is there a time in the year where you save the biggest on parts?
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September 3, 2012 11:16:57 PM

luisg1407 said:
Is there a time in the year where you save the biggest on parts?


Black Friday. The day after Thanksgiving. Friday, November 23rd, 2012 is the date this year.

A lot of things are on sale, and usually high percentages off. 50%-75%; things like that. :p 
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September 4, 2012 3:30:59 AM

Nanekud said:
Black Friday. The day after Thanksgiving. Friday, November 23rd, 2012 is the date this year.

A lot of things are on sale, and usually high percentages off. 50%-75%; things like that. :p 


This is for online also? I think my budget could.expand if I wait til then :) 
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September 4, 2012 5:13:18 PM

luisg1407 said:
This is for online also? I think my budget could.expand if I wait til then :) 



Yep, a lot of U.S. based online sites will do Black Friday sales that day too.
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