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September 4, 2012 12:24:26 AM
September 4, 2012 3:06:02 AM

I REALLY NEED HELP WITH THIS! BUT NO ONE REPLIES
how sad
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September 4, 2012 3:07:55 AM

Gimme a second to look over the parts. I'll see if I can come up with a better build.
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September 4, 2012 3:08:44 AM

Buy from Amazon as they don't charge taxes.
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September 4, 2012 3:13:16 AM

ok im checking the prices on amazon but i need a better build for less money XD
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September 4, 2012 3:13:19 AM

Here ya go...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($317.86 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer G215HVAbd 21.5" Monitor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $984.08
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 23:12 EDT-0400)

You will get much better gaming performance out of this. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask.
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September 4, 2012 3:19:01 AM

Then get the Sapphire 7850, but it won't be better. :p 
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September 4, 2012 3:27:14 AM

is that the total after shipping,rebates?? final total?
and it looks pretty solid but it is compatible??
why pay so much for the graphic card? 300 dollars thats too much i think
i should get a 2g graphic card and a ssd or better hhd dont ya think?
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September 4, 2012 3:28:04 AM

GPU is 2x more important than the CPU in gaming.
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September 4, 2012 3:30:36 AM

Actullay Azeem, half of that is true. Some games(usually indie games like Slender, Minecraft, etc.)relies on more of CPU power than a GPU. Let me look over your parts then I'll post back.
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September 4, 2012 3:30:37 AM

and i also wouldn't be able to play on high resolution because the monitor only supports 1920 x 1080( max resolution)
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September 4, 2012 3:40:27 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($307.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $901.78
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 23:39 EDT-0400)

This build can do a cross-fire solution. I'll do a non-crossfire build in a sec.
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September 4, 2012 3:41:15 AM

Ok, here's a build. I went for "budget." Feel free to increase some things if you like, but this will outperform your initial build by a considerable margin.

PowerColor AX7770 1GBD5-DH Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support ...
Model #:AX7770 1GBD5-DH
Item #:N82E16814131477
Mail in Rebate
$119.99 $119.99
One tier higher than the GTX550Ti. If you'd like to increase your budget, here's a good place to do it.

Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32120
Model #:BX80623I32120
Item #:N82E16819115077
$124.99 $124.99
Will blow the FX-4100 out of the water in games. The stock cooler will be sufficient, since it has a locked multiplier so you won't be overclocking it (except very limited BClock).

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Model #: DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
Item #:N82E16827135204
$19.99 $19.99
Same.

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:WD1002FAEX
Item #:N82E16822136533
$109.99 -$20.00 Instant $89.99
Five year warranty, vs. the one year many companies are putting on their products. The WD Black is an excellent performer too.

ASRock B75M-GL LGA 1155 Intel B75 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Model #:B75M-GL
Item #:N82E16813157326
$69.99 -$10.00 Instant $59.99
Hard to beat on a budget. I've always had good results from ASRock.

SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Model #:S12II 520 Bronze
Item #:N82E16817151094
$84.99 -$15.00 Instant $69.99
Will handle a HD7850 or HD7870 if you want to spend more on a more powerful graphics card.

G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-4GBNS
Model #:F3-10600CL9D-4GBNS
Item #:N82E16820231394
$20.99 $20.99
Only 4GB, but that's enough, on a budget. Double the price, double the RAM; up to you, but this should be enough for at least a few more years.

Subtotal: $505.93
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September 4, 2012 3:43:40 AM

The Z75 has less power phases. If he can afford it, why not get the ASRock Z77 Extreme4?
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September 4, 2012 3:44:46 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($307.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $856.78
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 23:44 EDT-0400)
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September 4, 2012 3:45:20 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $888.92
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 23:47 EDT-0400)

Here's a build, with no case, and a GTX 670 (In a few seconds, Azeem will be ranting on how a 670 sucks)
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September 4, 2012 3:46:04 AM

my budget is about 800-1000 and i was thinking about getting AMD to save some money but if i can stretch my money and get intel i5 2500k at least that would be better and i already have a CASE AND OS
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September 4, 2012 3:46:06 AM

No, I won't, because it is pointless arguing with you.
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September 4, 2012 3:49:37 AM

Hmmm, I thought I added your monitor and keyboard in there too; looks like I forgot to refresh, so it will be $642. Start with mine, and move toward one of the others depending on the direction you'd like to take. You have a lot of choices if you want to add another $160. I'd probably go for a HD7850, and maybe a more solid keyboard.
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September 4, 2012 3:49:48 AM

narutosteve said:
my budget is about 800-1000 and i was thinking about getting AMD to save some money but if i can stretch my money and get intel i5 2500k at least that would be better and i already have a CASE AND OS

Don't go with AMD (as far as the CPU goes)...not at your budget. The i5 2500k would be an excellent alternative to the 3570k. Just keep in mind, the 2500k doesn't support PCIe 3.0 or native USB 3.0. However, it does excel in overclocking ability.
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September 4, 2012 3:50:00 AM

azeem40 said:
The Z75 has less power phases. If he can afford it, why not get the ASRock Z77 Extreme4?


Yes, but the AsRock counterbalances that by by using good materials in the mosfets/chokes-inductors/ and a good multi-layer PCB
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September 4, 2012 3:52:05 AM

bctande1 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $888.92
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 23:47 EDT-0400)

Here's a build, with no case, and a GTX 670 (In a few seconds, Azeem will be ranting on how a 670 sucks)

It doesn't suck; there's just better options out there for the OPs budget. You can get similar performance out of an OCed HD 7950 for nearly $100 less. That money can be put elsewhere.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_66... <==== BF3 benchmarks
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September 4, 2012 3:57:13 AM

DeusAres said:
It doesn't suck; there's just better options out there for the OPs budget. You can get similar performance out of an OCed HD 7950 for nearly $100 less. That money can be put elsewhere.


That first two sentences there strike me as a relief, that someone can work within the realm of logical when comparing two GPUs +1

I was hunting for the best overall gaming performance for the money, instead of trying to fit something like an SSD.
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September 4, 2012 4:05:29 AM

Here it goes.



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September 4, 2012 4:11:00 AM

I believe those are old benchmarks. Is that after the 12.7 catalyst drivers from AMD? Also, are those 7950s overclocked?
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September 4, 2012 4:17:27 AM

OP, is BF3 one of the games you will be playing? If not, please let us know what games; those BF3 benchmarks may not be relevant at all.
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September 4, 2012 4:19:27 AM

http://pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/MSI-GTX-670-Pow... -- I got the second Benchmark from here, this review as done about a week or two ago.

Your Tom's hardware benchmark shows that the 7950 was beat by around 12FPS. Now, you can assume that the 7950 can be OCED, but if you look at a card like the ASUS 670, which can be fit in to the OPs budget, you can see that the 670 comes OUT OF BOX faster than the 680, and when overclocked, can reach speeds far beyond.

Lemme pull up some benchmarks on that gimme a sec


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September 4, 2012 4:28:52 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($419.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $908.92
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-04 00:28 EDT-0400)

This build would give you lots of performance.
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September 4, 2012 5:06:40 AM

Yup, but don't forget he said he needs a monitor. While the 670 is a great card, it may put him over budget once you include the monitor into the mix.
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September 5, 2012 10:10:41 AM

AMD is NOT the way to go for a new gaming build; benchmarks and reviews make that painfully clear.
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