Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

First Build, Trying to Lower Price

Tags:
  • Build
  • Systems
Last response: in Systems
Share
September 4, 2012 12:30:18 AM

So, I've planned out my first build and I'm trying to get the price down to less than one grand. Also, I'm planning on overclocking this thing. Will there be any problems with temperature?

Here are my parts:
I've listed out the prices, before the taxes and shipping

CPU
Intel Core i5-2500K
$216.98

CPU Cooler
Logisys MC4002IW
$32.99

Mobo
ASRock Z77 Extreme4
$129.99

Graphics Card
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870
$253.26

Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB
$44.99

Hard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB HD103SJ
$69.99

Optical Drive
Liteon IHAS124
$20.99

Power Supply
SeaSonic S12II
$85.99

Case
Antec 302
$49.99


*I live in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

More about : build lower price

September 4, 2012 12:40:40 AM

To reasonably drop prices, you could get a much cheaper motherboard, an 8GB memory kit (not sure why you'd want 16GB when 8GB is already way more than necessary for the next several years), and a cheaper PSU (without resorting to a junk brand, this wouldn't be difficult).

I also recommend not using a Samsung nor Seagate hard drive. Older Samsung drives were very reliable, but new ones are made by Seagate and Seagate kinda sucks for reliability nowadays.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 12:52:13 AM

The following build is very similar to yours. I changed the Memory to 8GB and chose a slightly cheaper brand that is excellent quality and used a different PSU (better quality and not overpriced) and Optical drive. Plus I added the Antec 302 case which includes front panel USB 3.0 connectivity.

This will perform exactly the same as your build for about $200 Less.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($216.98 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Logisys MC4002IW 66.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.33 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($233.26 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($85.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $892.50
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 20:48 EDT-0400)
m
0
l
Related resources
September 4, 2012 12:56:22 AM

Okay. So I'll go for the ASUS P8Z77($141.99) and 8GB memory (I could still get more later, if needed).
However, I have no idea what to replace the PSU with.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 1:28:53 AM

I recommend this...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($216.98 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.05 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.33 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($85.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $977.29
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 21:29 EDT-0400)

You'd get more performance out of it...especially with the hd 7950. If you overclock it, you'll get even more performance.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 1:28:58 AM

Why do you people like those less than reliable Samsung/Seagate drives so much?
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 1:36:01 AM

Because they're cheap, get the job done, and they aren't as "unreliable" as you're making them out to be.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 1:39:49 AM

They have between two and three times more reviews involving failures compared to Western Digital Blues and Blacks. I call that unreliable.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 1:41:39 AM

I've used Seagates for years both at work and in my computers at home. Never had any issue with reliability.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 1:43:56 AM

blazorthon said:
They have between two and three times more reviews involving failures compared to Western Digital Blues and Blacks. I call that unreliable.


You put all your trust in those reviews? :lol: 
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 1:46:09 AM

JKatwyopc said:
I've used Seagates for years both at work and in my computers at home. Never had any issue with reliability.


Seagate has declined in quality since they got Maxtor. Also, not having an issue yet doesn't mean that you're not more likely to have had issues. There are flukes in seemingly everything. Besides, even with Seagate, it's not a near-guarantee of failure, just the highest chance of it (which still isn't huge).
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 1:46:36 AM

DeusAres said:
You put all your trust in those reviews? :lol: 


When there are more reports of failures by such alarming numbers, how can you not worry?
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 1:51:53 AM

blazorthon said:
When there are more reports of failures by such alarming numbers, how can you not worry?


I've seen tons of reviews saying the Hitachi HDDs suck and fail all the time.

Got a Hitachi HDD in my laptop right now...been working fine for years...
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 1:53:46 AM

DeusAres said:
I've seen tons of reviews saying the Hitachi HDDs suck and fail all the time.

Got a Hitachi HDD in my laptop right now...been working fine for years...


Seeing reports doesn't mean that it will fail and not failing doesn't mean that you didn't get a fluke. Personal experience with mass produced items is less important on the scale than getting info from multiple people., hence the reviews.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 1:55:30 AM

DeusAres said:
I've seen tons of reviews saying the Hitachi HDDs suck and fail all the time.

Got a Hitachi HDD in my laptop right now...been working fine for years...


Seeing reports doesn't mean that it will fail and not failing doesn't mean that you didn't get a fluke. Personal experience with mass produced items is less important on the scale than getting info from multiple people., hence the reviews.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 2:03:03 AM

So I made some changes and finally got the final price down to $1016.08, including all taxes and shipping from four different sites. I guess that'll do.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 2:08:53 AM

This is the only forums that says Hitachi sucks yet others agree that the unreliability issue isn't too big of a deal.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 2:08:58 AM

blazorthon said:
Seeing reports doesn't mean that it will fail and not failing doesn't mean that you didn't get a fluke. Personal experience with mass produced items is less important on the scale than getting info from multiple people., hence the reviews.


:heink: 

If it's still working for this many years, chances are it's not a fluke.

Perhaps, a large majority of those reviews are from Western Digital fanboys...
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 2:12:16 AM

Yikes, canada, didn't see that 0__o .. gimme a sec
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 2:13:23 AM

DeusAres said:
:heink: 

If it's still working for this many years, chances are it's not a fluke.

Perhaps, a large majority of those reviews are from Western Digital fanboys...


You still continue to not understand. I've already said that the chances of even a Seagate or Samsung drive failing are low. They're simply much higher than that of a good Western Digital drive.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 2:16:08 AM

blazorthon said:
You still continue to not understand. I've already said that the chances of even a Seagate or Samsung drive failing are low. They're simply much higher than that of a good Western Digital drive.


Facepalm*

Is the price difference worth it? People give us a budget for a reason. It's not meant to be exceeded. I'm certain they'd rather have better GPU performance than a Western Digital drive simply because it appears to be a bit more reliable.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 2:18:40 AM

$20 more for the current gen Blue. The price difference is worth it. Why would you need to get a weaker graphics card over $20? Also, it's not just a bit more reliable. It's far more reliable. I can understand using such a hard drive in a low budget build, but there's no good reason for it in this build. This build has the budget for a proper hard drive to be included without issues.
m
0
l
September 4, 2012 2:28:41 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.56 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($58.65 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.79 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $988.74
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-03 22:28 EDT-0400)

The most OC-able 7950 out there
m
0
l
!