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September 5, 2012 12:38:37 AM

Hi,

After recent discussions with computer enthusiasts, I was guided towards a particular build that may be suitable to my needs.


Approximate Purchase Date: At a later date, will purchase as sales arrive or towards the end of this year

Budget Range: $850 before rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Most important use: Gaming, browsing, streaming HD movies

Are you buying a monitor: No



Parts to Upgrade: MoBo, GPU, CPU, RAM, Case, currently have a PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Do you need to buy OS: No


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, tigerdirect, microcenter preferred

Location: Long Island, NY

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: Preferred ASUS Motherboard, Intel CPU and a very well known reliable GPU

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: Currently 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Build is primarily aimed towards new MMO's coming out and to sustain high performances and a very temperature-sustained setup with quality components.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: It's just time for an upgrade. Dual Core, 3GB RAM, 32-Bit Win 7, computer doesn't even play flash without lagging on any browser and I get random FPS drops in League of Legends, I can't even leave a browser window open without getting FPS drops in games I play. I want to play Blade & Soul though, and can't wait for it!

Parts that I have researched and plan on purchasing (open to new arguments):

CPU: I5-3570K
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB Dual Channel
MoBo (very arguable): Asus Z77 Sabertooth
GPU: GTX 570 Fermi
Case: Still needed

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September 5, 2012 12:57:04 AM

My immediate thought would be "why a 570". Unless you're getting that at a very good price, get yourself a GTX 660Ti, or even HD 7870.
On the mobo; Asus are very good boards, and the Sabretooth is built like a tank, but there are plenty of much cheaper boards, with the same performance.
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September 5, 2012 12:59:46 AM

malbluff said:
My immediate thought would be "why a 570". Unless you're getting that at a very good price, get yourself a GTX 660Ti, or even HD 7870.
On the mobo; Asus are very good boards, and the Sabretooth is built like a tank, but there are plenty of much cheaper boards, with the same performance.


Why the 7870 or 660Ti? Does the benchmarks surpass the GTX 570? And if so, is it cheaper? In respect to the motherboard, yes the Z77 board is very good, but I don't think I need anything that crazy. That Motherboard is just over-the-top extreme. I mean, I want a durable, long-lasting, valuable board but, I just don't know if that's something I can handle (financially), or even put to good use!
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September 5, 2012 1:21:42 AM

khubani said:
Why the 7870 or 660Ti? Does the benchmarks surpass the GTX 570? And if so, is it cheaper? In respect to the motherboard, yes the Z77 board is very good, but I don't think I need anything that crazy. That Motherboard is just over-the-top extreme. I mean, I want a durable, long-lasting, valuable board but, I just don't know if that's something I can handle (financially), or even put to good use!
Yes the 7870 and 660 TI both beat a 570 other professional reliable trustworthy review sites other than TH sites consistently have the GTX 660 Ti beating a 7950 at 1920 resolution.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-...

Quote:
"As it stands, AMD’s position correctly reflects their performance; the GTX 660 Ti is a solid and relatively consistent 10-15% faster than the 7870, while the 7950 is anywhere between a bit faster to a bit slower depending on what benchmarks you favor. Of course when talking about the 7950 the “anything but equal” maxim still applies here, if not more so than with the GTX 670. The GTX 660 Ti is anywhere 50% ahead of the 7950 and 25% behind it, and everywhere in between."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-... P.S. As always, if there's specific games you're looking to play, check to see if they favor AMD or Nvidia before purchasing.

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September 5, 2012 1:22:32 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Yes the 7870 and 660 TI both beat a 570 other professional reliable trustworthy review sites other than TH sites consistently have the GTX 660 Ti beating a 7950 at 1920 resolution.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-...

Quote:
"As it stands, AMD’s position correctly reflects their performance; the GTX 660 Ti is a solid and relatively consistent 10-15% faster than the 7870, while the 7950 is anywhere between a bit faster to a bit slower depending on what benchmarks you favor. Of course when talking about the 7950 the “anything but equal” maxim still applies here, if not more so than with the GTX 670. The GTX 660 Ti is anywhere 50% ahead of the 7950 and 25% behind it, and everywhere in between."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-...


Considering that information as I am looking at it, is this the card you would recommend? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 5, 2012 1:25:00 AM

khubani said:
Why the 7870 or 660Ti? Does the benchmarks surpass the GTX 570? And if so, is it cheaper? In respect to the motherboard, yes the Z77 board is very good, but I don't think I need anything that crazy. That Motherboard is just over-the-top extreme. I mean, I want a durable, long-lasting, valuable board but, I just don't know if that's something I can handle (financially), or even put to good use!

Comparing GTX 660Ti with GTX 570, the 660 is anywhere better 20% and 40% better, than 570, in terms of frame rate, at 1920x1080, at high settings. The HD 7870 is somewhere in between. Add to that they're both lower power consumption, got to be worth a look. Obviously depends what price you are paying, where you are.
Like I said, whilst Asus are very good board the Sabretooth is "extra deluxe". If you want to keep good quality, but without being silly, have a look at Asus' other boards, in the range (there are plenty of them). It's just a case of picking the one that best suits your needs. All of the Z77 boards do the basics the same, it's just a case of what "add-on" features you want.
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September 5, 2012 1:35:29 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($267.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $854.08
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-04 21:35 EDT-0400)


7870 Ghz edition.
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September 5, 2012 1:39:26 AM

IMHO the 7870 is not worth it considering that price @ $230.00 yes @ $270.00 no
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September 5, 2012 1:45:06 AM

bctande1 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.30 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($267.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $854.08
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-04 21:35 EDT-0400)


7870 Ghz edition.


What is this supposed to be? There's only 1 part on there that I plan on buying, but it seems you completely overlooked the RAM and other essentials that I plan on purchasing/keeping.
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September 5, 2012 1:47:53 AM

if you prefer different Take your pick these are all solid mobo some are over 150 but not all hope this helps





mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 5, 2012 1:48:10 AM

Here is a good combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... for ram i suggest

RAM:Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 5, 2012 1:51:28 AM

I may look into the motherboard, but I'm pretty set on the RAM, I've always just loved Corsair's performance and I've heard so many good things that at this point, I don't see myself looking for any other kind of RAM. Is that MoBo compatible with the i5-3570k ivy bridge?
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September 5, 2012 1:52:56 AM

bigcyco1 said:
if you prefer different Take your pick these are all solid mobo some are over 150 but not all hope this helps





mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Well, I'm not really so sure what else to look for in a motherboard besides a few essential things, so I really can't determine which one would be a quality purchase. What would you recommend?
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September 5, 2012 2:02:24 AM

Case recommendations Case:Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $10 off w/ promo code EMCNBGN36, ends 9/5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case:Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, come with Five Fans, window side panel, top HDD dock
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case:Antec Eleven Hundred Black Super Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Case:Corsair Carbide Series 400R Graphite grey and black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case
$10 off w/ promo code EMCNANF29, ends 9/10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 5, 2012 2:04:27 AM

khubani said:
Well, I'm not really so sure what else to look for in a motherboard besides a few essential things, so I really can't determine which one would be a quality purchase. What would you recommend?
I would suggest one of these two mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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September 5, 2012 2:07:40 AM

khubani said:
What is this supposed to be? There's only 1 part on there that I plan on buying, but it seems you completely overlooked the RAM and other essentials that I plan on purchasing/keeping.


What is your reason for having the sabertooth?
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September 5, 2012 2:12:11 AM

See here those are pretty much on par with the sabertooth except the asrock fails but the others are on par give or take very little but sabertooth cost more i think the only logic to what Asus charges more for is the sabertooth 5 year warranty and it looks cool lol

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September 5, 2012 12:37:17 PM

I have the Asus V Pro earmarked for an upcoming build. Just feel it says "quality". Very scientific, I know! The only doubts I have are to whether it's worth waiting for Haswell. But that's another story!
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September 9, 2012 6:37:13 AM

bctande1 said:
What is your reason for having the sabertooth?


Well, by word of mouth I was told that ASUS's sabertooth motherboard is incredible, along side the warranty and it's VIP customer service. But I just don't think the Sabertooth is an expense I can really handle unless...it's a purchase that the majority would recommend
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September 9, 2012 6:44:02 AM

It doesn't matter what the majority think. It matters of whether or not you will use the extras provided in the board.
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September 9, 2012 6:55:09 AM

azeem40 said:
It doesn't matter what the majority think. It matters of whether or not you will use the extras provided in the board.
+1 i agree it's your choice it's not a total rip off if that's what your thinking now when you take the warranty into account and if you really like how it looks it's cost makes up for it's price maybe not for me it doesn't but to each his or her own that's something for you to decide ;) 
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