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September 5, 2012 4:47:08 AM

hey I am putting together a new computer and I just wanted some advice on parts, is there anything you would change and why?

Purchase Date: 1 - 2 weeks

System Usage: Gaming (Skyrim, Boredlands , GW 2)

my budget: $1500 - $1800 AUD

Location: Australia

OS: Windows 7 64 bit

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Probably not

I already have a Fractal Design Arc Mini case everything else is still just options

CPU - Intel Core i5 3570K $234.00
Motherboard - ASRock Fatal1ty Z77 Professional-M Motherboard $195.00
Graphics Card - ASUS GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II $499.00
Memory - Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 $69.00
Hard Drive - Corsair Force Series GS 240GB SSD $235.00
Power Supplies - Corsair TX-750M Modular Power Supply $159.00
Additional Cooling - Corsair Hydro Series H60 CPU Cooler $92.00
Network Adapter - Netgear WNA3100 Wireless N USB Adapter $41.00
all the listed prices are from PC Case Gear and in Australian Dollar

any help you can give would be awesome because I'm flying kinda bind with this build.

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September 5, 2012 5:23:51 AM

This is a pretty good build. There are a couple things I would change though.

1) Mobo. While I'm not 100% familiar with that board, and I could be totally wrong on this, I believe there are better boards out there in that price range. Tom's Hardware rated the MSI Z77A-GD65 the best mobo in that price range for overclocking, tied with the Extreme 6 (I think it was the Extreme 6, forget who makes it, doh!). I'm sure that mobo is fine, just know that there are other options available.

2) Power Supply. I know that power supply well and I can tell you this: GET THE AX750 NOT THE TX750!!! This is because while the TX is cheaper, it is non-modular. What this means is that all the cables are stuck on the PSU, even the ones you may not use. What you end up with is a bunch of random cables inside your case, very hard to manage. The AX750 is basically an 80+ gold certified TX750 that is modular. I would 100% recommend for you to spend the extra money to get a modular PSU over a non-modular one.

3) Cooling. I figure either go hard or go home on this one. Why get an H60 when there are Hyper 212's for far cheaper, and H100 that are far better? I just don't see why the H60 is worth it over the Hyper 212 if you want a cheap but well-performing CPU cooler, or how the H60 is worth it over the H100 if you want a decent closed-loop liquid cooling solution. The Hyper 212, while not a liquid cooler, is more than capable of OC'ing that 3570k to at least ~4.4-4.5GHz if that's your thing.


Other than that it all checks out. We will have a pretty similar build once all is said and done. Maybe research different models of the GTX 670 as well (although there isn't that big of a performance difference between different models of the same card, that's why I say go EVGA, because they have the best customer support if something goes wrong).

Good luck!
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September 5, 2012 6:24:17 AM

nsouter853 said:
This is a pretty good build. There are a couple things I would change though.

1) Mobo. While I'm not 100% familiar with that board, and I could be totally wrong on this, I believe there are better boards out there in that price range. Tom's Hardware rated the MSI Z77A-GD65 the best mobo in that price range for overclocking, tied with the Extreme 6 (I think it was the Extreme 6, forget who makes it, doh!). I'm sure that mobo is fine, just know that there are other options available.

2) Power Supply. I know that power supply well and I can tell you this: GET THE AX750 NOT THE TX750!!! This is because while the TX is cheaper, it is non-modular. What this means is that all the cables are stuck on the PSU, even the ones you may not use. What you end up with is a bunch of random cables inside your case, very hard to manage. The AX750 is basically an 80+ gold certified TX750 that is modular. I would 100% recommend for you to spend the extra money to get a modular PSU over a non-modular one.

3) Cooling. I figure either go hard or go home on this one. Why get an H60 when there are Hyper 212's for far cheaper, and H100 that are far better? I just don't see why the H60 is worth it over the Hyper 212 if you want a cheap but well-performing CPU cooler, or how the H60 is worth it over the H100 if you want a decent closed-loop liquid cooling solution. The Hyper 212, while not a liquid cooler, is more than capable of OC'ing that 3570k to at least ~4.4-4.5GHz if that's your thing.


Other than that it all checks out. We will have a pretty similar build once all is said and done. Maybe research different models of the GTX 670 as well (although there isn't that big of a performance difference between different models of the same card, that's why I say go EVGA, because they have the best customer support if something goes wrong).

Good luck!



Thanks for the info I have swapped the Fan for the H100, the PSU for the AX750 and I am reading up on the mobo right now.
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September 5, 2012 8:34:32 AM

Here's a brief rundown of why I chose these components. First off the min requirements for the GTX 670 is 500w and 30amps. This psu down below is 550w and 45amps on a single rail. It's more than enough. Next is the motherboard. The Asrock Performance is a great board but it's expensive and unneeded for a gaming build. Over clocking doesn't give you all that much gain in regards to gaming (FPS). Which brings us to the cpu cooler. The H60 is a rip off. $40 air coolers will hang with it easily and do it for cheaper and quieter. With these IB cpu's the trick is to o/c without adding any voltage. Which means 4.0 - 4.2Ghz and that equals 4.4 - 4.5Ghz in performance when compared to an SB cpu (Sandy Bridge). Next is the SSD. This Sandisk down below utilizes a SF Toggle NAND controller which is about as good as it gets. It's rock solid, quick, and obviously less expensive than the one you have up top. Now to the RAM. Corsair, G.Skill, and Mushkin all run head to head so why pay more for the same?

Now I see you are on a wireless connection so if that's the case then that is where I would be sinking some of my budget. If your going to game on wireless then do it right which means gaming on a 5Ghz band. It doesn't get any better than dual band with 5Ghz. As far as dual band routers go, Asus and TP-Link are the best out there atm. The Asus routers are ungodly expensive which brings us to the TP-Link routers. Just make sure you update the firmware for whatever router you decide to get. The latest firmware with any router is important.


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $109.00
Corsair TX-550M Modular Power Supply

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $115.00
ASRock Z77 PRO3 Motherboard

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $234.00
Intel Core i5 3570K

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $36.00
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $55.00
G.Skill Ares F3-1600C9D-8GAO 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $21.00
Lite-On IHAS324 24x DVDRW

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $199.00
SanDisk Extreme Solid State Drive 240GB

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $499.00
ASUS GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II

Total: $1,268.00 inc. GST | not including shipping


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $99.00
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with SP1 OEM


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $52.00
TP-Link TL-WDN4800 450Mbps Wireless N PCIe Adaptor


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $89.00
TP-Link TL-WDR3600 N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router

or...

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $95.00
TP-Link TL-WDR4300 N750 Wireless Dualband Gigabit Router

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1983/1/ <----- review of that router

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=... <---- review of that Corsair psu up above
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September 5, 2012 11:46:15 AM

Why_Me said:
Here's a brief rundown of why I chose these components. First off the min requirements for the GTX 670 is 500w and 30amps. This psu down below is 550w and 45amps on a single rail. It's more than enough. Next is the motherboard. The Asrock Performance is a great board but it's expensive and unneeded for a gaming build. Over clocking doesn't give you all that much gain in regards to gaming (FPS). Which brings us to the cpu cooler. The H60 is a rip off. $40 air coolers will hang with it easily and do it for cheaper and quieter. With these IB cpu's the trick is to o/c without adding any voltage. Which means 4.0 - 4.2Ghz and that equals 4.4 - 4.5Ghz in performance when compared to an SB cpu (Sandy Bridge). Next is the SSD. This Sandisk down below utilizes a SF Toggle NAND controller which is about as good as it gets. It's rock solid, quick, and obviously less expensive than the one you have up top. Now to the RAM. Corsair, G.Skill, and Mushkin all run head to head so why pay more for the same?

Now I see you are on a wireless connection so if that's the case then that is where I would be sinking some of my budget. If your going to game on wireless then do it right which means gaming on a 5Ghz band. It doesn't get any better than dual band with 5Ghz. As far as dual band routers go, Asus and TP-Link are the best out there atm. The Asus routers are ungodly expensive which brings us to the TP-Link routers. Just make sure you update the firmware for whatever router you decide to get. The latest firmware with any router is important.


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $109.00
Corsair TX-550M Modular Power Supply

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $115.00
ASRock Z77 PRO3 Motherboard

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $234.00
Intel Core i5 3570K

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $36.00
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $55.00
G.Skill Ares F3-1600C9D-8GAO 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $21.00
Lite-On IHAS324 24x DVDRW

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $199.00
SanDisk Extreme Solid State Drive 240GB

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $499.00
ASUS GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II

Total: $1,268.00 inc. GST | not including shipping


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $99.00
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with SP1 OEM


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $52.00
TP-Link TL-WDN4800 450Mbps Wireless N PCIe Adaptor


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $89.00
TP-Link TL-WDR3600 N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router

or...

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $95.00
TP-Link TL-WDR4300 N750 Wireless Dualband Gigabit Router

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1983/1/ <----- review of that router

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=... <---- review of that Corsair psu up above



wow that is a lot of info, and thanks thats cuts my build cost down quite a bit.
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September 11, 2012 10:39:50 AM

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