$1500 CAD/FEA system build First time build.

Hi,

I do alot of work in Solidworks, dealing with large, 1000+piece assembles. My current machine no longer does the job. I've built PC's in the past -back in the late 90's I was building water cooled PC's and overclocking and all that. went to college for Engineering and forgot it all!


Approximate Purchase Date: This week

Budget Range: $1500 before rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: CAD modeling, FEA, CAM, office work, light gaming

Are you buying a monitor: Yes - Acer 19" 5ms DVI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824009237


Do you need to buy OS: Yes -buying Windows 7 home premium, full.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:newegg.com

Location: City, State/Region, Country - Portland OR
Parts Preferences: Intel CPU

Overclocking: no

SLI or Crossfire: maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: Don't really care, any native res on a 19 will be fine.

Additional Comments: Want to keep it simple and reliable. buying 4 hard drives to run in RAID 10 configuration to improve speed and redundancy. 4x4gb RAM sticks to get the quad-channel thing going.

My main question is - is a RAID 10 the best way to get an increase in speed and reliability? Is there a different way I should do this? Any other comments on what I've got there?

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading:Old laptop doesn't have the power and is being retired for use as an ECU tuning device.

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm Fluid Dynamic CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835186134

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7850 100355OCL Video Card OC Version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814102999

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS

OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W Modular High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817341018

Rosewell Challenger computer case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811147153

Acer V193WEJbd Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824009237

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16832116716

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822136769

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820233143

Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 Quad-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819115229

BIOSTAR TPOWER X79 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813138346
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  1. x79 is not for your budget. Get the Asrock z77 Extreme 4 and i7 3770k for similar performance.
    Coolermaster hyper 212 EVO is a better cooler
    XFX/seasonic is a better psu.
    check this out http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=CA-912KKN1&c=CJ

    Get one 512gb ssd instead of raid 10. Crucial M4 is good.
  2. this is probably better for you. you wont need a graphics card unless you actually do some good gaming

    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gI9H
  3. That Arctic Cooling fan is horrendous. Get a Hyper 212 Evo instead.

    And then switch your RAM with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231556
  4. the cooler is not adequate as mentioned above but there is not point in a 212 even due to no overclocking but it is a great referrrence.#

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106161
    this is a little shorter than the cm212

    This is almost the same thing only a little cheaper than the 212

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181012

    I guess I kinda over did it on the fans as well you really don't need these but to find something more reasonable you will need to put in some time

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%20600238945&IsNodeId=1&name=LGA%202011

    try that motherboard instead, I see not reason to ever buy a biostar from experience the most locked up brand I ever saw.
  5. spentshells said:
    the cooler is not adequate as mentioned above but there is not point in a 212 even due to no overclocking but it is a great referrrence.#

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106161
    this is a little shorter than the cm212

    This is almost the same thing only a little cheaper than the 2212


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181012

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%20600238945&IsNodeId=1&name=LGA%202011

    try that motherboard instead, I see not reason to ever buy a biostar from experience the most locked up brand I ever saw.


    I'm personally not the biggest fan of Thermaltake but anything is better than Arctic Cooling's poorly made fans.

    I definitely agree with the above though that X79 isn't in the budget - the 3820 is about the same CPU as the 3770K.

    So go with this:

    Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293
    CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
    RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231558

    And then get the 212 Evo, I think it's a better option than most of the fans listed: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
  6. g-unit1111 said:
    I'm personally not the biggest fan of Thermaltake but anything is better than Arctic Cooling's poorly made fans.

    I definitely agree with the above though that X79 isn't in the budget - the 3820 is about the same CPU as the 3770K.

    So go with this:

    Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293
    CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
    RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231558

    And then get the 212 Evo, I think it's a better option than most of the fans listed: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099


    Really poorly made ?

    I was super satisfied with my Ac7 on my e5300 oc'd to 4Ghz but not really that great of a setup for anything for a 6 core cpu
  7. Interesting build bigtroll,I notice you completely removed overclocking. Why is that? He seems pretty interested in it to be getting Arctic Cooling. He also might need a graphics card for a multi monitor setup,but that can come later with the extra monitors .
  8. Thanks for the input everyone!

    I will go with the processor, motherboard, and RAM suggestions, as it saves a bunch of money and should offer comparible performance. I also will get a pair of 1tb drives I plan on running in a RAID setup (the one that mirrors two drives) for data safety, and got a 128gb SSD drive.

    In my experience, solidworks does run alot better with a good graphics card, so I'm thinking I'll stick with the card I spec'd out, also I will have two monitors.
  9. spentshells said:
    Really poorly made ?

    I was super satisfied with my Ac7 on my e5300 oc'd to 4Ghz but not really that great of a setup for anything for a 6 core cpu


    I got an AMD Arctic Cooling fan and the pieces started snapping off of the fan as I was installing it, and then the mounts didn't exactly align with the AMD brackets so I had to completely take the motherboard out of the case in order to install it. Still doesn't cool the CPU as well I'd like it to.
  10. cornilsn said:
    Thanks for the input everyone!

    I will go with the processor, motherboard, and RAM suggestions, as it saves a bunch of money and should offer comparible performance. I also will get a pair of 1tb drives I plan on running in a RAID setup (the one that mirrors two drives) for data safety, and got a 128gb SSD drive.

    In my experience, solidworks does run alot better with a good graphics card, so I'm thinking I'll stick with the card I spec'd out, also I will have two monitors.

    128gb is sufficient for windows and your software. A raid array is a good idea,especially for the long term when the drive starts ageing.
    A hd7850 is a good card,the sweet spot for 1080p at the moment. I'm okay with the selection.
  11. g-unit1111 said:
    I got an AMD Arctic Cooling fan and the pieces started snapping off of the fan as I was installing it, and then the mounts didn't exactly align with the AMD brackets so I had to completely take the motherboard out of the case in order to install it. Still doesn't cool the CPU as well I'd like it to.



    Oh yeah ! I installed one on an AMD x2 6400 and a 4200 rev2 and I had to throw it away and use something else in the shop because of that shitty pushpin setup, frankly the first model as a little easier to remove


    EDIT we didn't have the pushpins at the shop cause we were kinda one of those ripoff places.... cough MDG
  12. Oh yeah get and NV card for cad most cad apps support cuda you would be fooling not to get one, maybe even wait for the new 660 vanilla
  13. allanitomwesh said:
    Interesting build bigtroll,I notice you completely removed overclocking. Why is that? He seems pretty interested in it to be getting Arctic Cooling. He also might need a graphics card for a multi monitor setup,but that can come later with the extra monitors .


    i was trying to achieve the cheapest build for his usage. he said no overclocking so i dont include those parts. of course you can but trying to achieve a much lower price point but get the same performance. if he needs more monitors, definitly get a graphics card like the 7850. i didnt include a video card given that he rates gaming last
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