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July 19, 2012 9:48:17 AM

Hello everyone ! :D 

I am going to sell my PS3 and work a bit and get some extra money for upgrade to my PC , but I have really little problem with my video cards ;P

I really dont know which card to get :
GTX 560TI ASUS DIRECT CU II - it cost 240 $
XFX (or any other brand ;P ) HD 7870 - It cost something like 320 $
Or , I should add tons of money to get the GTX 670 EVGA Signature , which cost 400 $
Or maybe the most high card at the market , Or the HD 7970 Dual X cooler or the GTX 680 :p 

So , which card is the best bang for my money ? which card will have great FPS in games ?
what card I should get ? I really want more than 45 FPS in Battlefield 3 on Ultra 1920*1080P , and of course on all other games ;D

Specs -
AMD PHENOM II X4 840 3.2 GHZ
Gigabyte 880GM US2H
and I will get also with my card 8 GB1600MHZ RAM , and 750W CORSAIR TX PSU . :) 

Thank you all ! :) 

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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 10:15:41 AM

7970
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 10:24:21 AM

if you want it right now get the 7870 but if you are willing to wait the 670 is the better option by far and btw a 7970 cant stand against a 670 FTW edition stock
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July 19, 2012 10:30:14 AM

redeemer said:
7970


But why the HD 7970 ? Its really worth the price ? there is really much better fps in the games ?

Thanks for the answer tho ! :D 

devilofdeaths said:
if you want it right now get the 7870 but if you are willing to wait the 670 is the better option by far and btw a 7970 cant stand against a 670 FTW edition stock


I can wait :) 
But I can overclock the HD 7970 for much better than the 670 .. so ; \
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July 19, 2012 10:48:15 AM

CaptainWoopy said:
But why the HD 7970 ? Its really worth the price ? there is really much better fps in the games ?

Thanks for the answer tho ! :D 



I can wait :) 
But I can overclock the HD 7970 for much better than the 670 .. so ; \

stock the 670 beats it and both over clocked the 670 beats it and if you can wait please get the 670 im no fanboy i got a 7850 in my pc but the 670 is so much better you will be getting 100+ fps in bf3 with max settings
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 11:57:57 AM

New custom 7970 is on par with 680 (from some sapphire toxic review, i read. edit: that thing is monster running at 1.2 Ghz), since the recent amd price cut it hard to ignore...

Back to topic please write about your whole system, especially your PSU...
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July 19, 2012 12:10:09 PM

We do need the rest of your specs buddy but the 560 ti is probably a non starter unless you get the 2GB model, especially for Battlefield (resolution depending). I run out of vram before I can max it out especially in multiplayer. Still looks great but not max.
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July 19, 2012 12:19:34 PM

a 560ti gets around 35fps on battlefield 3 @ 1080 ultra
Get the 7870 and that'll do everything
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 12:24:10 PM

i get 70+fps with the 7850 in bf3 with everything on ultra
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July 19, 2012 12:29:25 PM

Guys we haven't got the rest of his specs yet hold your horses.
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 12:30:58 PM

^very true statment
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 12:34:54 PM

i like the 7850 although i do have a factory OC version
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July 19, 2012 12:42:46 PM

MEMOFLEX said:
We do need the rest of your specs buddy but the 560 ti is probably a non starter unless you get the 2GB model, especially for Battlefield (resolution depending). I run out of vram before I can max it out especially in multiplayer. Still looks great but not max.


hmm okay , you right , I will "Delete" the 560TI from my list ;D
and I will edit the topic right now ^_^

rdc85 said:
New custom 7970 is on par with 680 (from some sapphire toxic review, i read. edit: that thing is monster running at 1.2 Ghz), since the recent amd price cut it hard to ignore...

Back to topic please write about your whole system, especially your PSU...


Thanks for the answer , but im not going to get the toxic edition since it cost too much .
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 12:44:32 PM

just get the 7850 or 7870 they're good cards for a cheaper price than the 7970,670,or 680
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July 19, 2012 1:03:08 PM

CaptainWoopy what CPU and PSU do you have and what budget do you have available as we can all throw graphic cards at you but if either of these components are not up to it then it is a waste of time. If you have a weak CPU then no matter what you put in your computer it will be bottlenecked and you won't get the 45+ fps in Battlefield you crave. If your PSU isn't very powerful or a cheap generic brand or not enough amps on 12v rail it makes this discussion irrelevant. You have mentioned that certain cards are too expensive yet mentioned a 680 in you opening post so how much do you have / want to spend.

Lets take a step back and get the whole picture and then offer advice rather turning the thread into a list of links to benchmarks that ultimately may be irrelevant.
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July 19, 2012 1:13:44 PM

MEMOFLEX said:
CaptainWoopy what CPU and PSU do you have and what budget do you have available as we can all throw graphic cards at you but if either of these components are not up to it then it is a waste of time. If you have a weak CPU then no matter what you put in your computer it will be bottlenecked and you won't get the 45+ fps in Battlefield you crave. If your PSU isn't very powerful or a cheap generic brand or not enough amps on 12v rail it makes this discussion irrelevant. You have mentioned that certain cards are too expensive yet mentioned a 680 in you opening post so how much do you have / want to spend.

Lets take a step back and get the whole picture and then offer advice rather turning the thread into a list of links to benchmarks that ultimately may be irrelevant.


So , I need also to change my CPU ?
My CPU will do bottleneck with the card ? ;\
I have only 1000$ ~ to spend , cant go higer then 1050 $ ..
and I said what are my specs at the topic :)  Anyways , right now I have AMD PHENOM 840 IIX4 , Gigabyte 880GM UD2H , 500W PSU and 4GB 1333 MHZ .
But , I want to buy with my vew video card also 750W TX CORSAIR PSU , 8GB 1600MHZ CORSAIR VENGACE , and maybe 180GB SSD of Corsair 180gb :) 
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July 19, 2012 1:13:53 PM

MEMOFLEX said:
CaptainWoopy what CPU and PSU do you have and what budget do you have available as we can all throw graphic cards at you but if either of these components are not up to it then it is a waste of time. If you have a weak CPU then no matter what you put in your computer it will be bottlenecked and you won't get the 45+ fps in Battlefield you crave. If your PSU isn't very powerful or a cheap generic brand or not enough amps on 12v rail it makes this discussion irrelevant. You have mentioned that certain cards are too expensive yet mentioned a 680 in you opening post so how much do you have / want to spend.

Lets take a step back and get the whole picture and then offer advice rather turning the thread into a list of links to benchmarks that ultimately may be irrelevant.


So , I need also to change my CPU ?
My CPU will do bottleneck with the card ? ;\
I have only 1000$ ~ to spend , cant go higer then 1050 $ ..
and I said what are my specs at the topic :)  Anyways , right now I have AMD PHENOM 840 IIX4 , Gigabyte 880GM UD2H , 500W PSU and 4GB 1333 MHZ .
But , I want to buy with my vew video card also 750W TX CORSAIR PSU , 8GB 1600MHZ CORSAIR VENGACE , and maybe 180GB SSD of Corsair 180gb :) 
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July 19, 2012 1:18:35 PM

Cheers dude. Sorry when I wrote that it wasn't showing in the original post. Your CPU should be fine and the PSU you are looking to buy is a good one so that concern is out of the way. Out of the $1000 are these other components being bought or is that money solely for your GPU?
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July 19, 2012 1:20:44 PM

Sorry man I can't read today (time for a coffee i think lol). Trying to work out what money you have left over so we have a ball park figure specifically for your GPU.

Sorry for being a tard.
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July 19, 2012 1:30:03 PM

MEMOFLEX said:
Cheers dude. Sorry when I wrote that it wasn't showing in the original post. Your CPU should be fine and the PSU you are looking to buy is a good one so that concern is out of the way. Out of the $1000 are these other components being bought or is that money solely for your GPU?


Thats okay mate ! you really helped me today !!!
Im happy to hear that my CPU is fine , if it will do bottleneck I will save a bit more and get 3570K and another MOBO later :) 
and all the 1000 is for the GPU + all other components :) 
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 1:34:17 PM
July 19, 2012 1:41:56 PM



Thats not a bad system at all that devilofdeaths has put together for you. Personally I would go with a 670 instead of the 7950 but that is mainly due to being a lot more familiar with Nvidia components (haven't had an AMD since x1950 pro :o ).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Still under budget but $50 more than above spec. Its a personal choice of what you feel more comfortable with.

See Battlefield 3 benchmark below :

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-rev...

Hope that helps
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 1:46:42 PM

i do make good systems although that does not include case or heatsink and thank you memoflex i try my hardest
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July 19, 2012 1:57:41 PM

Hey guys thanks for the help :D  but I dont think I will get new CPU since my CPU is doing great right now :) 
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July 19, 2012 1:57:53 PM

Hey guys thanks for the help :D  but I dont think I will get new CPU since my CPU is doing great right now :) 
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 1:59:21 PM

ok btw what heatsink doyou use
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July 19, 2012 2:02:57 PM

devilofdeaths said:
ok btw what heatsink doyou use


Right now I have the stock cooler , but I will get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 :) 
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July 19, 2012 2:06:42 PM

Okey dokey. I think then go with the 670 along with your new PSU, Memory, and SSD (Will make it feel like new computer anyway) and if you are using a standard CPU cooler get a decent one and o/c your CPU.

That should leave you with plenty of cash left over to put away for when you do decide to upgrade the rest and then you can move your new components over.
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 2:08:32 PM

ok good the 212 is a excelent cooler for its price and if you do upgrade your cpu i highly recommend a i5 3570k because it is one of the best gaming cpu's out there
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July 19, 2012 2:28:48 PM

Thank you all guys !!! :D  You really helped me !! :) 

devilofdeaths said:
for the last one it says that a 7950 only gets a average fps of 35~ i get atleast 70 fps everything maxed out on my 7850


dude are you sure ? beacuse i watch some tons of videos on youtube and the HD 7950 got 55 ~ 47 FPS .. D:
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July 19, 2012 2:33:19 PM

i have a amd fx-8150 with a sapphire 7850 OC and i got 70-90 fps on all ultra in multiplayer about 50 while downloading
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July 19, 2012 2:34:06 PM

at 1080p?
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 2:36:03 PM

no but very close to that i believe in the 900's
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 2:38:11 PM

i havent played in 4 days because the mobo decided to burn up
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July 19, 2012 2:41:13 PM

That will explain it then matey. You are probably running 1600 x 900 resolution so the GPU isn't having to work as hard as it will be at 1920 x 1080 so the fps will ultimately go up. Every pixel counts ;) 
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 2:44:11 PM

i did try 1080p but i didnt try to see the fps and btw in your sig it says that you have 2 560ti how much fps do you get in bf3 on ultra in 1080p
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July 19, 2012 2:50:21 PM

I cant max it out due to running out of Vram. I have everything on Ultra except for Shadows and 4xMSAA which puts me up to the limit of Vram (about 986 i think) and I get a minimum of 40fps and average about 60 -65. Looks great but damn Vram holding me back. Wish I had 2 Gb cards but they still pack a punch
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July 19, 2012 2:53:44 PM

i might get another 7850's would that be a better option than saving for a 670 or 7970
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July 19, 2012 2:55:04 PM

Wow , thats kinda sucks MEMOFLEX ;\ are you thinking on upgrade soon ? ;D
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 2:59:11 PM

^he does make a good statement but are 2 7850's better than a 670 or 7970
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July 19, 2012 2:59:47 PM

I kind of feel we are hijacking this thread but despite having no problems with sli at all I think I would go with a single gpu when I do upgrade. I couldn't recommend a crossfire setup as I haven't really used AMD cards. Although my choice was based on it being the cheaper option at the time (pre 600 series cards) and when I did I outperform a single 580 quite easily although the Vram issue was something that I didn't think about at the time. Have just done a quick test on Battlefield 3 as haven't played since the 301.42 drivers have been released and has booswted my frame rate to min 46 and average 70 but that is only a quick test but happy all the same. :D 
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 3:05:18 PM

what do you say captain woody 2 7850's or one 670 or 7970
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July 19, 2012 3:07:21 PM

Gonna wait and see what the 660 ti is saying but I am over the minimum of 45fps that you wanted in your original post so not that bad lol. Like I said Battlefield 3 along with Max Payne 3 and Metro 2033 like to have quite a bit of vram onboard. If I enable Ultra shadows then it pushes my Vram usage up considerably. The power is there but the vram holds me back. If you saw it running though you wouldn't complain as it looks ace and I struggle to notice the difference.
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 3:09:34 PM

i wish i had a monitor with 120mhz but i only have one with 60
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July 19, 2012 3:28:44 PM

devilofdeaths said:
what do you say captain woody 2 7850's or one 670 or 7970


Sell the 7850 , and get better card like GTX 670 or 7970 ;P or maybe you should wait to see what happend with the 660TI :D 
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a b U Graphics card
July 19, 2012 3:36:57 PM

really huh maybe i should wait although i did get impatiant and put up a thread
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