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September 7, 2012 5:39:14 AM

http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc/ncixpc_print.cfm?uuid=70A1A53...|1-33130|1-61850|1-56989|2-38996|1-59617|1-45271|1-58746|1-49597|1-33602|1-33601|1-6024|1-7842|1

I'm building a new PC on ncix. The above link has all the hardware. It's being prebuilt since I don't care for building it from scratch myself. In fact, I just customized the hardware of one of the NCIX pcs they already had. My budget is basically where the price is right now, so I don't want it going over ~$850. Since I live in British Columbia, Canada, I still have to deal with 14% HST and then shipping, and my job at Mcdonalds will only pay so much.

You'll notice there's no graphics card, that's because I'm using an older EVGA GTX 285 for now until I can save up some more money and get an ATi 7800 series card or possibly a 570.
I hope to run all the games on the market, even though I'll have to wait before I can max out Battlefield 3 just yet. Also, overclocking isn't one of my priorities.


Anyway, I'd appreciate any kind of feedback on this pile of crap I've thrown together, having little experience with this stuff myself, the only thing telling me this is good is the Compatibility Check beta.
So, thoughts?

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September 7, 2012 5:50:50 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8150 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($91.35 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($312.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $849.81
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-07 01:48 EDT-0400)
September 7, 2012 6:07:15 AM

:\ that's feedback?
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September 7, 2012 6:09:25 AM

I'm a noob, I could go cry in the corner and eat icecream I suppose. You could drop the Radeon of the bundle, knock off $300.

Than pump something else up.
September 7, 2012 6:11:24 AM

I'm impressed that you managed to get such a good GPU in there and keep it in the budget
September 7, 2012 6:13:57 AM

I like the idea of an AMD/ATi build. Can I purchase all of these in Canada?
September 7, 2012 6:14:01 AM

I don't think they do but one sec . . .
September 7, 2012 6:21:38 AM

Get the CPU cooler from Amazon and the rest except the HDD from NCIX and scratch off the Vid Card and theres $300. And than get this . . . HDD . . . From . . . One sec . . .
September 7, 2012 6:24:01 AM

okay knowing me i'd probably screw this up so if you could prepare another super convenient list like before that would be much appreciated :D 
September 7, 2012 6:24:16 AM

still hoping for a list..
September 7, 2012 6:33:11 AM

Cost a bit more from this source on some parts, but knocked $300 of from the Radeon.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8150 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth 990FX ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ CompUSA)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $658.92
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-07 02:35 EDT-0400)
September 7, 2012 6:35:07 AM

why such a more expensive motherboard?
September 7, 2012 6:35:46 AM

so 2 hard drives you said? why would i need that?
September 7, 2012 6:35:48 AM

FX is rubbish for gaming. A 965 is better (but not by much). There are $1000 Intel i5 builds floating around this site that would be better value. Simply put, AMD can not compete with Intel currently for gaming.
September 7, 2012 6:37:08 AM

Hey sharki, the dark side of the CPU's has cookies :) 
September 7, 2012 6:37:17 AM

yeah i think i'll be keeping that radeon it looks very sexy
September 7, 2012 6:40:41 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($212.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $843.45
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-07 02:41 EDT-0400)

Intel has chocolate milk, but, AMD has cookies. IDK what side I'm on yet . . .
September 7, 2012 6:43:50 AM

Smeg, please stop being a silly intel fanboy, and veladem, I'm going to try and see if I can't get all those parts on ncix canada so as to save me some hassles. I assume I'm going to be getting a pirated copy of windows 7 seeing as you didnt include it.
September 7, 2012 6:44:13 AM

Also, maybe I should just get a radeon 7870 to save me some money, it still runs games like battlefield well on max right?
September 7, 2012 6:45:53 AM

Oh jeez, I don't think we use the word pirate around here. But, if your friend next door lones you his copy of Win 7 than heck, why not. Not my fault he downloaded the Win 8 RTM online.

smeg, sadly, is right. Intel packs a hell of a punch. But I choose to run away from Intel because in 2007 AMD came along and is now making 1/7th that of Intel on a operation cost that of 1/17. But, Intel based in '69 does pull rank and does have better bang per buck.

I also run to get away from anything related in anyway to Mac.
September 7, 2012 6:47:58 AM

im just trying to save a hundred bucks, and microsoft has enough of our money anyway
September 7, 2012 6:51:30 AM

regarding intel, if I wanted to shell out an extra two hundred bucks for a few extra frames per second, then I would have mentioned that. I like amd because they give me all the performance necessary for gaming without breaking the bank
September 7, 2012 6:54:54 AM

That's a special branch of the police. Most of them are just normal cops. Also, I'll be getting all my stuff from ncix to make things simple. It's about the same price anyway.
September 7, 2012 6:56:16 AM

Save some monye and go with this PSU.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=29823&vpn=OCZ800EXS&ma...
It's not a lot better than the XFX but it's a lot cheaper.

You can also get the 990 FX version of the motherboard you listed for less money on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also you do NOT need quad channel ram.That won't make your PC any faster and it will also reduce the maximum OC you can achieve on your processor and ram.
You'd be much hapier with one 8GB kit instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ugh now that i saw that this is a configurable PC you should know that you're much better off buying your own parts one by one and assembling it yourself.It will be faster and cheaper.And it will be axactly what you want it to be.
So here's the link to your FX 8150.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=64404&vpn=FD8150FRGUBO...
In the build it says 200$ here it says 180.So basicly they're charging you 10% bonus on the price of everything just so they can assemble it.Do you really think assembling a PC costs 80$?

And with the money saved you can also buy a good cooler.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=64385&vpn=RR-212E-20PK...
September 7, 2012 6:56:27 AM

Huh, what do Mountee's do, kinda like fish & game?
September 7, 2012 7:02:42 AM

Oh, Americans, please don't ever change. :) 

And Kamen, I'd rather buy a preconfigured thing that I customized myself to avoid individual shipping costs and taxes. It's an extra charge of $40 with included testing. Saves me time, I'll survive.
September 7, 2012 7:14:06 AM

I have a question. You recommended I get the coolermaster 430 which is indeed a budget case. It's probably not terrible but I was wondering if its worth it to get the HAF 922, which is about 60 bucks more expensive. What are your thoughts on that?
September 7, 2012 7:18:35 AM

By the way, this is my updated list I guess.
http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc/ncixpc_print.cfm?uuid=70A1A53...|1-33130|1-63715|1-58955|2-38996|1-59615|1-58746|1-49597|1-33602|1-33601|1-6024|1-7842|1

I may or may not buy the graphics card right away, or just stick with my gtx 285 for a little while longer.
September 7, 2012 7:22:27 AM

The HAF 922 looks sick, but, holly hell you're at 700+
September 7, 2012 7:26:11 AM

sharki9876 said:
Smeg, please stop being a silly intel fanboy, and veladem, I'm going to try and see if I can't get all those parts on ncix canada so as to save me some hassles. I assume I'm going to be getting a pirated copy of windows 7 seeing as you didnt include it.


FX is rubbish:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review...

Just google some more benchmarks. I can't be bothered. There is a big difference. Night and day difference.
September 7, 2012 7:30:58 AM

Yes, Intel is better. However, some people are loyal to Intel some to AMD. I even once heard there was a cult of Mac lovers 0_o
September 7, 2012 7:31:08 AM

sharki9876 said:
I have a question. You recommended I get the coolermaster 430 which is indeed a budget case. It's probably not terrible but I was wondering if its worth it to get the HAF 922, which is about 60 bucks more expensive. What are your thoughts on that?


HAF 922 is awesome that's what I have. I see myself re-using this case in my next build if ATX is still around.
September 7, 2012 7:32:19 AM

ATX will stay, Idk about the actual components on it though. CPU size and such.
September 7, 2012 7:32:21 AM

Anway, I gotta dip out, later.
September 7, 2012 2:50:42 PM

Smeg, I already mentioned I don't want to shell out an extra hundred. Most games are more GPU intensive and I think it would be most wise to invest more money into a better graphics card. Also, ncix doesn't have an 1100t or phenom 975 so I guess I'll stick with what's new and not bottlenecking anything.
September 7, 2012 8:29:24 PM

sharki9876 said:
Smeg, I already mentioned I don't want to shell out an extra hundred. Most games are more GPU intensive and I think it would be most wise to invest more money into a better graphics card. Also, ncix doesn't have an 1100t or phenom 975 so I guess I'll stick with what's new and not bottlenecking anything.


I thought the same:

http://techreport.com/review/23246/inside-the-second-ga...

There is a big difference with a Phenom and an i5. Minimum framerates especially, Intel is faster, noticeably faster.
September 7, 2012 11:17:28 PM

And by intel CPU I suppose I mean a 2500k on ncix that doesn't exceed $250
September 7, 2012 11:17:29 PM

Well man I'm glad you're so confident. Does that mean you can find me a reasonably priced intel CPU made for gaming as well as a good budget motherboard while still keeping me under my $800 budget?
Because it would bring me much happiness.
September 7, 2012 11:33:57 PM

CPU: Intel i5 3450 - $210

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70543&vpn=BX80637I53450&m...

RAM: Kingston Value RAM - $38

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58488&vpn=KVR1333D3N9K2%2...

MOBO: Gigabyte H77M-D3H - $90

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70268&vpn=GA-H77M-D3H&man...

GPU: Gigabyte Windforce 7870 - $240

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69492&vpn=GV-R787OC-2GD&m...

PSU: Corsair TX 650 v2 - $85

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58381&vpn=CMPSU-650TXV%20...

CASE: CM Storm Enforcer - $89

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60883&vpn=SGC-1000-KWN1&m...

HDD: Seagate 1TB - $90

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&man...

ODD: LG burner - $25

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66853&vpn=GH24NS90&manufa...


TOTAL: $862, minus OS.

If you shop around you should save a bit off. Canada is damn expensive though.


EDIT: Battlefield 3 is well threaded. Other games are not.
September 7, 2012 11:46:38 PM

whats the difference between the 3450 and the 2500k?
September 7, 2012 11:58:57 PM

also, is the 3570k really worth it? or should the 2500k suit me fine
September 8, 2012 12:52:07 AM

You don't need a K series or OC (unless you want to). The 3450 is essentially the Ivy Bridge version of the 2500K. Worth getting due to PCI-E 3 support and native USB 3 support.
September 8, 2012 2:03:27 AM

so im completely new to this whole intel thing. what does ivy bridge/ sandy bridge mean? why is it important?
also I want to keep my overclocking options relatively open for the future so I don't have to get a new processor later on.
so I still don't know how the 3450 compares to the 2500k..
September 8, 2012 2:10:56 AM

http://www.ncix.com/products/productdetail2.php?noheade...

This is the motherboard I'm looking at currently. The one you posted was a micro ATX and don't need anything smaller than an ATX. I don't think theres a huge difference in performance but I don't really want a low profile mobo. Would the one in the link work well with a 2500k? I think thats the i5 I want
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