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Hi all building new gaming only rig, looking for some tips, ~1200

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September 7, 2012 11:48:22 AM

Hi all, I'm building a gaming rig (1st time) and was wondering if I could get some tips on my planned build. Though new at building rigs I'm comfortable with installing hardware and basic installs of software and tweaking various bios features. I do plan on a low to moderate OC for the CPU and possible running SLI in the next year or so, thanks appreciate any advice/ tips.


Case-- COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($59.99)

Mobo-- ASUS P8H77-V LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (135.99)

Video Card-- MSI N660 Ti PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video (309.99)

PSU-- CORSAIR CX Series CX750 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply (99.99)

CPU-- Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 (219.99)

RAM- CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R (47.99)

SSD-- OCZ Onyx Series OCZSSD2-1ONX32G 2.5" 32GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (46.99)

HDD-- Western Digital AV-GP WD10EURX 1TB IntelliPower SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (99.99)

CPU Cooler-- COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel (29.99)


Monitor-- ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor W/Speakers (179.99)


THANKS.
September 7, 2012 12:01:29 PM

you arent overclocking on that rig you got there. h77 wont let you

here you go. this will do it
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gNl7

as for the video card, the 7870 is a much better value compared to the 660ti given it performs closely but is 80 dollars cheaper after MIR

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September 7, 2012 12:09:42 PM

Thanks TheBigTroll, that helps alot, I would of hated to find that out a year down the road.
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September 7, 2012 12:31:36 PM

3570K is just a bit more expensive than 2500K so there is no reason not to prefer it over the latter.

And I do believe that 7950 is a better deal than 660Ti with the recent price drop of AMD GPUs if u dont want to go cheaper with 7870 (which is an excellent card dont get me wrong).

As for HDD I am fond of WD Caviar Black 500GB or 1TB.

EDIT: I saw big troll's build and I like it, maybe I would only change the GPU and the HDD with the one mentioned, but at the end it all comes down to how much you are willing to spend.
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September 7, 2012 1:01:19 PM

Granted some games favor nvidia, like BF3 and Batman Archam series. But tho OP hasn't express any preferance to particular games, and in most cases 7950 performs better.

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September 7, 2012 1:11:13 PM

XXStavrosXX said:
3570K is just a bit more expensive than 2500K so there is no reason not to prefer it over the latter.

And I do believe that 7950 is a better deal than 660Ti with the recent price drop of AMD GPUs if u dont want to go cheaper with 7870 (which is an excellent card dont get me wrong).

As for HDD I am fond of WD Caviar Black 500GB or 1TB.

EDIT: I saw big troll's build and I like it, maybe I would only change the GPU and the HDD with the one mentioned, but at the end it all comes down to how much you are willing to spend.


the 7950 isnt quite the deal given the performance diference between the 7870 and the 7950 is not enough to warrant the extra 60-80 dollar price increase. the 7870 is pretty much the best bang for the buck right now.
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September 7, 2012 3:59:22 PM

This build allows you to add another one of those cards later on in SLI.


http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Three-Hundred-Two-Gaming/dp... $60.59 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Antec Three Hundred Two Gaming Case, Black

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-80PLUS-Certified-Modular-... $86.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair CX 750 Watts 80PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply CP-9020015-NA

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $157.98 save: $8.00
ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $519.98 save: $20.00 - $10.00 Mail In Rebates
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
MSI N660 Ti PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_a... $33.49 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $19.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Solid-SD... $171.67 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SDSSDX-240G-G25

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BZNDOO/ref=ox_sc_a... $134.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASUS VS228H-P 21.5-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor (Black) | 50,000,000:1 ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio; Full 1080P with HDMI

Total: $1,184.69 *not including shipping & rebates


http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme3/ <----- another look at that Asrock board along with a link to the latest bios

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power... <----- review of that MSI GTX 660 ti w/benchmarks

http://usa.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VS228HP/ <----- another look at that monitor
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September 7, 2012 4:32:22 PM

Three issues:

1) A 30gb SSD which will nave even less space useable is just not big enough. 60gb should be minimum, and 120gb would be better. I might suggest initially skipping a hard drive altogether, and looking at a 180gb ssd. That is enough for the os and a fair number of games. Later, when hard drive prices drop down to normal, add the hard drive if you need to.
I would suggest this Intel 330 180gb ssd for $160:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2) You are spending extra up front to plan for a sli upgrade that you may never need.
My canned rant on that:
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Dual graphics cards vs. a good single card.

a) How good do you really need to be?
A single GTX560 or 6870 can give you great performance at 1920 x 1200 in most games.

A single GTX560ti or 6950 will give you excellent performance at 1920 x 1200 in most games.
Even 2560 x 1600 will be good with lowered detail.
A single 7970 or GTX680 is about as good as it gets.

Only if you are looking at triple monitor gaming, then sli/cf will be needed.
Even that is now changing with triple monitor support on top end cards.

b) The costs for a single card are lower.
You require a less expensive motherboard; no need for sli/cf or multiple pci-e slots.
Even a ITX motherboard will do.

Your psu costs are less.
A GTX560ti needs a 450w psu, even a GTX580 only needs a 600w psu.
When you add another card to the mix, plan on adding 150-200w to your psu requirements.
A single more modern 28nm card like a 7970 or GTX680 needs only 550W.
Even the strongest GTX690 only needs 650w.

Case cooling becomes more of an issue with dual cards.
That means a more expensive case with more and stronger fans.
You will also look at more noise.

c) Dual cards do not always render their half of the display in sync, causing microstuttering. It is an annoying effect.
The benefit of higher benchmark fps can be offset, particularly with lower tier cards.
Read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stut...

d) dual card support is dependent on the driver. Not all games can benefit from dual cards.

e) cf/sli up front reduces your option to get another card for an upgrade. Not that I suggest you plan for that.
It will often be the case that replacing your current card with a newer gen card will offer a better upgrade path.
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3) As mentioned, a H.. chipset will not allow multiplier overclocking. A Z77 based motherboard will do the job. Most any will do. Plan on <$100. SLI capable motherboards will be more.
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September 7, 2012 11:09:58 PM

Thanks for the advice. definitely going to have to re-configure my specs. SSD only sounds like a good a idea considering this is only a gaming build and thus storage is a minimal concern.
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September 8, 2012 1:27:20 PM

Hate to bug any of you, but this is the post tip build I think i'm going with, changed the RAM, MOBO, PSU, GPU, and SSD/ HDD. Again thanks for the input, its much appreciated.


Case-- COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($59.99)

Mobo-- GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($154.99)

Video Card-- GIGABYTE GV-R787OC-2GD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video ... ($259.99)

PSU-- CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply ($69.99)

CPU-- Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ($219.99)

RAM- CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B ($44.99)

SSD-- Intel 330 Series Maple Crest SSDSC2CT120A3K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ($99.99)

HDD--Western Digital Caviar Blue WD2500AAKX 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ($59.99)

CPU Cooler-- COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ($29.99)

CD/DVD-- ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM ($19.99)

Monitor-- ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor W/Speakers ($179.99)

Total is $1198.89 not including mail in rebates. Thanks, the input saved me a good amount of money and frustration.
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September 8, 2012 2:09:30 PM

1:id change the case to a fractal core 3000. its 20 dollars cheaper at newegg
2:the xfx 7870 is 224.99 after MIR at us.ncix.com
3:the cx series are kinda sub-par. id get something like a xfx 650w or a xfx 550w depending if you are going to crossfire. they are much better units
4:i can get a i5 3570k for that price
5:id rather get a samsung 830 128gb for 96 dollars
6:i can get a evo for that price
7:id get a vs228h-p instead. it has higher pixel density which means slightly sharper images
8:gskill ares 2x4gb 1600mhz cl9 is 41.99 and is low profile
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September 8, 2012 2:45:23 PM

Thanks for the tips TheBigTroll, certainly will do. Definitely down for shaving off a few bucks and getting better gear.
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September 9, 2012 3:37:54 AM

TheBigTroll, if I could ask you one more thing, I applied the above mentioned updates and was about to purchase the build, however I just had a lingering insecurity of the mobo, the UD3 seems to have a bit of quality issues with some users. Should I expand my budget a bit for a better board, or not worry about it. Thank you for any help...again.
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September 9, 2012 3:40:51 AM

Not worry about it. Newegg reviews only give out a review if something goes bad (usually).
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September 9, 2012 4:05:04 AM

ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77, if i bundle this I can get my ram (gskill ares) for free and come in right at my price point. Is it a better board.
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September 9, 2012 4:08:57 AM

Bundle the P8Z77-V with what?
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September 9, 2012 4:12:15 AM

on new egg
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September 9, 2012 4:14:21 AM

i5-3570K with the mobo and ares gskill for $399.98
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September 9, 2012 4:35:24 AM

Sounds good to me.
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September 9, 2012 6:00:22 AM

funny, i'm doing this too. I just had a question on MY post: is that ram good? which i'm sure it is good enough.
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September 9, 2012 6:05:18 AM

Why_Me said:
This build allows you to add another one of those cards later on in SLI.


http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Three-Hundred-Two-Gaming/dp... $60.59 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Antec Three Hundred Two Gaming Case, Black

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-80PLUS-Certified-Modular-... $86.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair CX 750 Watts 80PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply CP-9020015-NA

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $157.98 save: $8.00
ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $519.98 save: $20.00 - $10.00 Mail In Rebates
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
MSI N660 Ti PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_a... $33.49 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $19.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Solid-SD... $171.67 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SDSSDX-240G-G25

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BZNDOO/ref=ox_sc_a... $134.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASUS VS228H-P 21.5-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor (Black) | 50,000,000:1 ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio; Full 1080P with HDMI

Total: $1,184.69 *not including shipping & rebates


http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme3/ <----- another look at that Asrock board along with a link to the latest bios

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power... <----- review of that MSI GTX 660 ti w/benchmarks

http://usa.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VS228HP/ <----- another look at that monitor

The review on hardocp uses 12.8 for AMD drivers. I'd look at it instead.
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