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September 8, 2012 7:11:27 AM

Hey, I'm looking for some advice on this build. I've decided on a couple things: one, I want the GTX 670 FTW. Two, I want a 3770k. Those are my two main "must haves". In regards to everything else I just chose what I thought would be best and within my budget and cut out things I didn't really need.

My questions are: Is the mobo OK for my setup? I don't want to be bottlenecked by it. This is my main concern as my RAM, GPU, and CPU are all pretty powerful; I can't really afford a better mobo but I'd rather make cuts elsewhere then be bottlenecked by it.
Also, do you think the wireless network card is decent? I assume it doesn't matter too much but I won't be connecting via ethernet cable, so it's important that it works.
I'm assuming the power supply will be more than adequate, even if down the road I want to use SLI.
Lastly, for the internal USB, I selected the cheaper 2.0. Are these additional ports? I thought my case/mobo came with USB 3.0, or do I have to actually add them?

Oh and, is the Cyberpower brand liquid cooling system decent?

My price range is in the $1,700s. I plan on, at some point, adding another 8 gigs of G.Skill Ripjaws X (I can't imagine I'll need 32 gigs of ram at any point so I'm sticking with the cheaper 4 gig sticks so I'll max out at 16 gigs) and a SSD. I'd just like your advice on this system, what I might want to add/take out, any particular problems between components, bottlenecking. I'm kind of at my max budget already. I expect to be able to play games for several years to come; I'm upgrading from a refurbished Dell Studio 1737 so obviously this rig will be exponentially better in every way.

Thanks so much.

Here are the specs:

*BASE_PRICE: [+1325]
CAS: Azza Fusion 3000 Full-Tower Gaming Case w/ 1x 140mm & 2x 120mm fans, front USB 3.0, HDD Easy Swap, & 360MM liquid cooling ready
CASUPGRADE: 12in Liquid Neon Thunder Pattern Light [+15] (Blue Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [-34] (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FA_HDD: None
FAN: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 240MM w/ Dual Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Slient at 18dBA)
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
HDD: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD [-20] (Single Drive)
IEEE_CARD: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
MB_SRT: None
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (G.SKILL Ripjaws X [+16])
MOTHERBOARD: * [CrossFireX/SLI] ASUS P8Z77-V LK Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2 PCie x1 & 2 PCI (Extreme OC Certified) [+13]
MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more)
POWERSUPPLY: * 850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+56]
RESERVOIR: None
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
TUNING: Intel® Core™ i7-3770K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+29]
TVRC: None
USB: None
USBFLASH: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+271] (EVGA FTW Edition [+20])
WNC: 802.11b/g/n 300Mbps PCI Wireless Adapter Network Card [+26]
_PRICE: (+1717)
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September 8, 2012 5:39:18 PM

Interesting build.
That's a very big case,and you don't need the upgrade thing.
You won't need more than 2 PCIe x16 slots for sli,and nothing in the distant future will need three 670's
750w is more than enough
You could dump the massive case and liquid cooling and get an air CPU cooler. It's how I would do it.
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September 8, 2012 5:51:04 PM

Good looking build, though I agree with allan. Also, Since there seems to be room in your budget, get the SSD now. They're already way cheapen than even in May (when I got mine) and it will provide a very nice improvement and not require you to reformat down the road. I'd go for 256GB if you can afford it, but no lower than 120GB.
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September 8, 2012 8:57:33 PM

Yeah I've been trying to optimize everything and yes, the case is way too big. This is sort of my "final" build. Sadly I don't think I'll have room for a SSD while also maintaining everything else I want.

Basically I went with a Gigabyte mobo which I think should be a slight upgrade, went for a much more reasonably sized case, and I dropped the wireless card because with the Gigabyte mobo they're giving away free GC-WB300D which is apparently a Bluetooth and WiFi card (hopefully I'm not retarded and this is in fact a network card). Also grabbed 8 more gigs of G.Skill Ripjaws X and got rid of Microsoft as I can get it free from school and that saves $100+, and it'll be nice not to have bloatware, though I'll have to install all the drivers and I'm guessing they won't be able to do their 72 hour "burn in" test.

With shipping included I'll have just under $200 for a monitor, which I'll be buying separately since Cyberware tacks on $25 for shipping and I can get one locally. I'm looking for a "recommended" resolution of 1920x1080, LED back lit, 2ms response monitor. 22" is fine, wouldn't want much bigger.

Price is $1,669.10 with ground UPS shipping and 5% discount code.



*BASE_PRICE: [+719]
CAS: * Cooler Master HAF-XM Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ 2x 200mm fan, Front USB 3.0 & X-Dock HDD HotSwap [+70]
CASUPGRADE: None
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified) [+116]
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FAN: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator [+63] (Dual Standard 120MM Fans (Push-Pull) [+9])
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
FREEBIE_MB: GIGABYTE GC-WB300D Exclusive Bluetooth 4.0/WiFi PCIe Expansion Card [+0]
FREEBIE_VC1: FREE Borderlands2 Game Coupon [+0]
HDD: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD [+5] (Single Drive)
HDD2: None
IEEE_CARD: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
MB_SRT: None
MEMORY: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory [+83] (G.SKILL Ripjaws X [+33])
MOTHERBOARD: * [CrossFireX/SLI] GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, Ultra Durable4, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, Display Port, 3x Gen3 PCIe X16, 3x PCIe x1 & 1 PCI (All Venom OC Certified) [+55]
MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: None - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: * 850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+91]
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
TUNING: Intel® Core™ i7-3770K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+29]
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+385] (EVGA FTW Edition [+20])

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September 9, 2012 6:40:46 AM

The psu is still excessive, you can save there. 750w 80+ certified is enough.
If there's a 212 evo cooler put it and save money.
The ram won't be useful unless you use adobe suite,but if your okay with that it's fine.
I hope you've noticed your 'must haves' are stretching your budget. Otherwise, nice build.
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September 9, 2012 5:07:42 PM

Alright so I changed to a Corsair 750w 80+. They do offer the 212 Evo fan and it would save me somewhere in the realm of $80. Do you think performance between the two (the Thermaltake and Evo) would be similar?
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September 9, 2012 5:49:40 PM

The evo is actually better.Hard to imagine,but it is very capable in it's simplicity. To beat it's performance you'd need a corsair h100. Not cheap.
Anyway, I'll make a few points on your build.
First, the i7 is unnecessary for gaming. It adds nothing,and will not add anything in the distant future for a gamer.However,it is very capable for professional work. If you use cinema 4d,Maya,or Aftereffects it will serve you well.
Second, you need the ssd.It'll shave the most annoying aspect of gaming,namely load times. Put the $80 towards it.
Third,I hope the 16gb ram is 8x2.
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September 9, 2012 9:30:28 PM

Yeah the Evo does seem to have really good reviews on Newegg though from what I've read it's gigantic; hopefully it doesn't interfere with RAM. Speaking of which, I was going to go with 4 gig sticks, simply because it's cheaper to get 16 gigs of ram via 4 gig sticks and also I doubt I'll ever be going to 32gb. Would there be any other reason for going with 8g sticks, other than future expansion?

Do you think the Evo will fit? If so I'll go with that and get an SSD. I'd probably drop my regular HD and try for a 200+ gb SSD and then, when necessary, add a regular old HD for storage. Do you have any brands/specifications that you recommend for SSDs? I'd want something that could hold Windows 7 and then another couple hundred gigs.

Oh and just one more question in regards to the PSU. 750w should be enough to support SLI if I ever go that route right? And would it be enough to support substantial overclocking of the CPU? Thanks again for your time, you've been very helpful.
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September 10, 2012 3:58:01 AM

The ram is for future expansion, nothing else.
The evo will fit otherwise they wouldn't stock it.
There's no need to drop the regular hard disk,just get 120/128gb for your os and games. I wouldn't go lower than that,but if your budget allows you can get 240/256gb ,but not at the expense of capacity.
Yes,it'll run 2 gtx670's and an overclocked i7 with water cooling. No worries there.
As for brands,samsung,crucial, corsair,and mushkin,and for ocz don't get anything unless it's a 4 (vertex,agility) .
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September 17, 2012 6:00:55 PM

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