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September 8, 2012 10:31:01 AM

I'm planning on building mid-high end rig for no less than $1500. The thing is, all the parts are pretty expensive here in Ukraine.
I know the place in the city where I can get the parts, but it will take quite some time to save my money. So far this is what I have planned.

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR HX Series HX850 or Antec High Current Pro Platinum 1000w (is 850w good for Crossfire?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Antec/HCP-1000/10.ht...

GPU: 2x XFX Double D HD 7870 Black Edition 2GB DDR5 or 2x XFX Double D HD 7950 Black Edition 3GB DDR5 (Can't decide which to buy)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4538/xfx_radeon_hd_795...

CPU Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO (or something similar)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Western Digital 1TB Intellipower (or something similar; don't really care, it's secondary)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: Intel 330 Series Maple Crest 120GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: LITE-ON Black 12X Blu-Ray COMBO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer (would you recommend anything else?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor: ????? Looking for 23 or 24" IPS LED Monitor with no higher than 5ms response and great picture quality with accurate colors under $300

Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse: RAZER DeathAdder (nothing too fancy for me)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse Pad: RAZER Goliathus Gaming Mouse Mat (maybe)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gamepad: Razor Onza or Saitek Rumble Pad
http://gamepad-review.toptenreviews.com/razer-onza-revi...
http://gamepad-review.toptenreviews.com/saitek-rumble-p...


The Asus motherboard should have some nice built-in soundcard, so I won't bother with anything fancy just yet.

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a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 11:04:47 AM

That's a good build you're planning to do there.... let me help you:

*you will not get any performance gain from an i7 CPU in gaming, in fact... it will reduce your gaming performance most of the time, you will only see any real performance gain if you game AND record your gameplay at the same time or do HEAVY video editing/rendering/transcoding/decoding/encoding... etc.

*a 750w PSU is more than enough for dual 7970s + overclock on every part.

*The 212 EVO is the standard CPU cooler recommended on this forum but i simply think its overrated, there are better options for a tiny bit more.

*don't buy a 330 SSD, Samsung 830 or a Vertex 4 are the way to go.

*The Phantom 410 won the "Best of Tom's hardware 2012" award, its a truly amazing case.

*you really don't need crossfire right now, a 7970Ghz edition can easily lock any game @60fps maxed out (which is the highest refresh rate your monitor supports) and if you ever need more performance in about a couple of years (when DX11.1 becomes mainstrean) you can add a second 7970Ghz edition without having to change the PSU


i recommend you to buy this:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($215.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($49.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: VisionTek Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($437.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($128.00 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" Monitor ($172.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1439.44

*btw.... a gamepad? truste me.... don't buy one, i know that (i am gonna get bashed for this) console game-play is a lot better than PC game play and that it is a lot easier to aim and bla bla bla but using a game pad on a PC feels really weird... you're better off learning how to use a keyboard and mouse.


a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 11:21:24 AM

for a single monitor setup,go with gtx 670.it's cheaper and will max out any thing you throw at 1080p.it's the best bang for the buck high end gpu.
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a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 11:25:56 AM

hellfire24 said:
for a single monitor setup,go with gtx 670.it's cheaper and will max out any thing you throw at 1080p.it's the best bang for the buck high end gpu.


Sorry... i meant THIS 7970Ghz edition its only 13$ more expensive than a GTX670 with the exact same cooler and performs considerably better.
September 8, 2012 11:34:17 AM

idroid said:
That's a good build you're planning to do there.... let me help you:

*you will not get any performance gain from an i7 CPU in gaming, in fact... it will reduce your gaming performance most of the time, you will only see any real performance gain if you game AND record your gameplay at the same time or do HEAVY video editing/rendering/transcoding/decoding/encoding... etc.

*a 750w PSU is more than enough for dual 7970s + overclock on every part.

*The 212 EVO is the standard CPU cooler recommended on this forum but i simply think its overrated, there are better options for a tiny bit more.

*don't buy a 330 SSD, Samsung 830 or a Vertex 4 are the way to go.

*The Phantom 410 won the "Best of Tom's hardware 2012" award, its a truly amazing case.

*you really don't need crossfire right now, a 7970Ghz edition can easily lock any game @60fps maxed out (which is the highest refresh rate your monitor supports) and if you ever need more performance in about a couple of years (when DX11.1 becomes mainstrean) you can add a second 7970Ghz edition without having to change the PSU


i recommend you to buy this:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($215.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($49.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: VisionTek Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($437.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($128.00 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" Monitor ($172.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1439.44

*btw.... a gamepad? truste me.... don't buy one, i know that (i am gonna get bashed for this) console game-play is a lot better than PC game play and that it is a lot easier to aim and bla bla bla but using a game pad on a PC feels really weird... you're better off learning how to use a keyboard and mouse.



yeah man ,,, go for this!!
September 8, 2012 11:34:57 AM

idroid said:
That's a good build you're planning to do there.... let me help you:

*you will not get any performance gain from an i7 CPU in gaming, in fact... it will reduce your gaming performance most of the time, you will only see any real performance gain if you game AND record your gameplay at the same time or do HEAVY video editing/rendering/transcoding/decoding/encoding... etc.

*a 750w PSU is more than enough for dual 7970s + overclock on every part.

*The 212 EVO is the standard CPU cooler recommended on this forum but i simply think its overrated, there are better options for a tiny bit more.

*don't buy a 330 SSD, Samsung 830 or a Vertex 4 are the way to go.

*The Phantom 410 won the "Best of Tom's hardware 2012" award, its a truly amazing case.

*you really don't need crossfire right now, a 7970Ghz edition can easily lock any game @60fps maxed out (which is the highest refresh rate your monitor supports) and if you ever need more performance in about a couple of years (when DX11.1 becomes mainstrean) you can add a second 7970Ghz edition without having to change the PSU


i recommend you to buy this:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($215.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($49.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: VisionTek Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($437.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($128.00 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" Monitor ($172.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1439.44

*btw.... a gamepad? truste me.... don't buy one, i know that (i am gonna get bashed for this) console game-play is a lot better than PC game play and that it is a lot easier to aim and bla bla bla but using a game pad on a PC feels really weird... you're better off learning how to use a keyboard and mouse.


Excellent! Thank you for the indepth reply. I wanted to get the Asus Deluxe motherboard because then I wouldn't need a soundcard. I wanted to put an HD 7870 or an HD 7950 on my current build and then buy another one for crossfire once I am able to buy the rig on top. Thanks for recommending the Phantom 410, it looks quite sexy. Didn't even know about it. Yeah, I wanted to go for the Vertex 4 at first but I saw that people were complaining about it. Hmm, I guess I won't bother with the 1000w PSU then.

I want the 3770k because I plan to overclock it to decent levels. I know that sandy bridge is better for that, but I also might use it for lots of things, not just gaming. I've read a bunch of benchmarks and it still manages to beat the 2600k in almost every test. On my OTP406 I have a pretty badass heatsink which cools my Q6700, but that's old news. I want to future proof my rig, but I'm a bit low on funds. I can't afford the 7970, but the max I can try is the 7950. Then later I can do a 7950 crossfire or perhaps I'll get the 7870 instead. Once again, thanks for your input :) 
September 8, 2012 11:35:16 AM

hellfire24 said:
for a single monitor setup,go with gtx 670.it's cheaper and will max out any thing you throw at 1080p.it's the best bang for the buck high end gpu.

I live in Ukraine, the GTX670's here cost almost as much as the HD 7970. I pretty much always use Nvidia, but I wanted to try something new. My current limit is $350 or so. 400+ is way too expensive for me, atm.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 1:29:45 PM

Xile said:
Excellent! Thank you for the indepth reply. I wanted to get the Asus Deluxe motherboard because then I wouldn't need a soundcard. I wanted to put an HD 7870 or an HD 7950 on my current build and then buy another one for crossfire once I am able to buy the rig on top. Thanks for recommending the Phantom 410, it looks quite sexy. Didn't even know about it. Yeah, I wanted to go for the Vertex 4 at first but I saw that people were complaining about it. Hmm, I guess I won't bother with the 1000w PSU then.

I want the 3770k because I plan to overclock it to decent levels. I know that sandy bridge is better for that, but I also might use it for lots of things, not just gaming. I've read a bunch of benchmarks and it still manages to beat the 2600k in almost every test. On my OTP406 I have a pretty badass heatsink which cools my Q6700, but that's old news. I want to future proof my rig, but I'm a bit low on funds. I can't afford the 7970, but the max I can try is the 7950. Then later I can do a 7950 crossfire or perhaps I'll get the 7870 instead. Once again, thanks for your input :) 


*The vertex 4 speed issues have been solved with a few firmware updates, don't worry about that, it is an EXCELLENT SSD.

*There is no point in overspending on the most overrated part of a PC, the motherboard. To pick a motherboard all you have to take into consideration is that it support dual/triple/quad GPU IF you need (can afford) them and that it has a good power phases and well...that's pretty much it, the so called "features" in most motherboards are next to useless.

*The 3570k/3770k overclock equally, the 3770k with HT ON will reduce your overclocking potential and it will not give you any performance advantage over an i5 unless you turn HT ON (less overclocking potential) and use heavy threaded apps (not games)

*Well, you originally wanted an i7 so if you an i5 and save those 100$ you might be able to afford the 7970Ghz :)  like i always say.... its always better to pay a little bit more to have extra power than cheap out and get you "can" today and cry tomorrow
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 2:07:29 PM

idroid said:
*The vertex 4 speed issues have been solved with a few firmware updates, don't worry about that, it is an EXCELLENT SSD.

*There is no point in overspending on the most overrated part of a PC, the motherboard. To pick a motherboard all you have to take into consideration is that it support dual/triple/quad GPU IF you need (can afford) them and that it has a good power phases and well...that's pretty much it, the so called "features" in most motherboards are next to useless.

*The 3570k/3770k overclock equally, the 3770k with HT ON will reduce your overclocking potential and it will not give you any performance advantage over an i5 unless you turn HT ON (less overclocking potential) and use heavy threaded apps (not games)

i agree.

Quote:
like i always say.... its always better to pay a little bit more to have extra power than cheap out and get you "can" today and cry tomorrow

in a situation where 670 makes you cry,i hardly doubt a 7970 will bring back the smile.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 2:08:33 PM

hellfire24 said:
i agree.

Quote:
like i always say.... its always better to pay a little bit more to have extra power than cheap out and get you "can" today and cry tomorrow

in a situation where 670 makes you cry,i hardly doubt a 7970 will bring back the smile.


multi-monitor gaming :)  the extra 1GB on the 7970 can come in handy when you paired it with another 7970 and play @5760x1080 and the 2GB on the GTX670 are...well, you can run out of momory and that can cause a major frame drop.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 2:15:45 PM

idroid said:
multi-monitor gaming :)  the extra 1GB on the 7970 can come in handy when you paired it with another 7970 and play @5760x1080 and the 2GB on the GTX670 are...well, you can run out of momory and that can cause a major frame drop.


is OP planning on 3 monitor gaming?
BTW,i am not trying to start a 670 vs 7970 debate but i just want to say that in a situation where 670 makes you cry,a 7970 will not bring back the smile :) 
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 2:22:37 PM

hellfire24 said:
is OP planning on 3 monitor gaming?
BTW,i am not trying to start a 670 vs 7970 debate but i just want to say that in a situation where 670 makes you cry,a 7970 will not bring back the smile :) 


like i said... a 7970CF beats a GTX670SLI @5760x1080 by a much larger margin than a 7970 will normally beat a GTX670 @1080p
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 2:26:53 PM

is OP planning on 3 monitors? i don't think so as he mentioned he wants a good monitor under $300.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 2:29:16 PM

hellfire24 said:
is OP planning on 3 monitors? i don't think so as he mentioned he wants a good monitor under $300.


Who knows, are you the OP? no, right? so let him decide for himself based on our advises, he might want to get 3 monitors some time and a 7970 is better suited for hig res gaming than the GTX670.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 2:35:13 PM

i never said that 670 is better than 7970 GHz,all i want to say is that

idroid said:

*Well, you originally wanted an i7 so if you an i5 and save those 100$ you might be able to afford the 7970Ghz :)  like i always say.... its always better to pay a little bit more to have extra power than cheap out and get you "can" today and cry tomorrow


is not completely true.a 7970 is not that faster than a 670,but a game that makes you cry on your 670 will not work like a charm with a 7970.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 2:47:07 PM

hellfire24 said:
i never said that 670 is better than 7970 GHz,all i want to say is that



is not completely true.a 7970 is not that faster than a 670,but a game that makes you cry on your 670 will not work like a charm with a 7970.













a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 2:57:31 PM

what's the point? i want to tell you that you are not proving your this point-

idroid said:

*Well, you originally wanted an i7 so if you an i5 and save those 100$ you might be able to afford the 7970Ghz :)  like i always say.... its always better to pay a little bit more to have extra power than cheap out and get you "can" today and cry tomorrow


note: we I am not talking about quad gpu setups or ridiculously high resolutions.
last thing: all i want you to understand is that a 670 is enough for any game at 1080p and 2GB+ vram is almost useless on 1080p resolutions.
moreover: you are probably older than me so i must show some respect to you but this does not means you are absolutely correct.
i don't want any argument but you are cocky as hell(looking at your personal quote).
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 3:14:51 PM

hellfire24 said:
what's the point? i want to tell you that you are not proving your this point-



note: we I am not talking about quad gpu setups or ridiculously high resolutions.
last thing: all i want you to understand is that a 670 is enough for any game at 1080p and 2GB+ vram is almost useless on 1080p resolutions.
moreover: you are probably older than me so i must show some respect to you but this does not means you are absolutely correct.
i don't want any argument but you are cocky as hell(looking at your personal quote).


Well... i am cocky as hell, i know that... that's just how i am and i love being like that... anyways, lets not talk about it.

the GTX670 IS enough for 1080p gaming, i completly agree with you on that but for only 13$ more you can get a 7970Ghz edition which gives you the opportunity to expand to triple monitor gaming.

The only thing i am curious about was this part:
Quote:
this does not means you are absolutely correct.


Based on the benchmarks i linked i would i am... btw, i want to point out something.

you are probably older than me so i must show some respect said:
you are probably older than me so i must show some respect
(i am 28) i gotta tell you, i was shocked when i read that, most teenagers think they know everything and have this crazy believe that will magically succeed in life without respect and intelligence , +1 to you, young fellow
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 3:25:43 PM

lol i literally smiled when i read your post.i am not saying that 670>7970 and yes for $13 more,it's a steal!!
but just wanted to say that in the situation where you are crying over your 670,a 7970 will not show any magical improvement(s).
note: reference amd cooler is horribly loud and has terrible cooling,so i think it's a good deal-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
you (or anyone) can overclock 670(they overclock well)to reach/beat 680/7970.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 3:29:17 PM

hellfire24 said:
lol i literally smiled when i read your post.i am not saying that 670>7970 and yes for $13 more,it's a steal!!
but just wanted to say that in the situation where you are crying over your 670,a 7970 will not show any magical improvement(s).
note: reference amd cooler is horribly loud and has terrible cooling,so i think it's a good deal-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
you (or anyone) can overclock 670(they overclock well)to reach/beat 680/7970.


@5760x1080 a a pair/trio of GTX670 will make you cry.... a pair/trio 7970 will put a big freaking smile on your face.

you can overclock SOME GTX670s to about 1.3Ghz MAX BUT the 7970s GHz edition are all heavily tested to ensure a great overclocking potential (1.3Ghz easy maybe 1.4 and some can be overclocked to 1.5 perfectly stable)
a b B Homebuilt system
September 8, 2012 3:42:11 PM

idroid said:
@5760x1080 a a pair/trio of GTX670 will make you cry.... a pair/trio 7970 will put a big freaking smile on your face.

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1625084&mpage=5
i don't see crying.
Quote:
you can overclock SOME GTX670s to about 1.3Ghz

same rule implies on 7970.
September 8, 2012 5:18:51 PM

hellfire24 said:
is OP planning on 3 monitor gaming?
BTW,i am not trying to start a 670 vs 7970 debate but i just want to say that in a situation where 670 makes you cry,a 7970 will not bring back the smile :) 


Nope, OP doesn't want to go higher than 1920x1200. As nice as 2560x1600 and above are, I hardly seem to notice the difference, anyway. I'm one of those people who can play FPS games at 22 fps and still live with it. For me 30 fps in ALL games is more than enough, but I wanted to try them at 60 fps. Heck, my current monitor only supports 1680x1050 and not higher. In fact I don't even notice the difference between Blu-Ray and BD rip when it comes down to it. Yeah, I'm one of those rare breeds as it turns out. Also, I never said anything about a gaming rig :) 
September 8, 2012 5:36:16 PM

Before we start getting into anymore arguments I would just like to point out that I have done enough research to know what I would like more when it comes down to a home built personal computer. I just wanted your input for certain things that I am planning on getting. This future build is NOT set in stone. I prefer the 3770k because the 8 thread performance is just what I need for 3D modeling, if I should choose. I asked for an IPS monitor because Correct colors are more important to me than the response time for FPS games. I might not even play most of these games, who knows? I chose Asus, because I trust them more than I trust Gigabyte and Asrock for overclocking performance and beyond. Not to mention the PCI-E 3.0 which is future proofing for the 7800's and the 7900's.

I'm aware that 28nm technology means that the GPU will overheat less and not waste so much energy. So far the 7870 and 7950 is best for price/performance/watt ratio (in my opinion). If I truly wanted some crazy gaming rig I would go straight for GTX680. Also when overclocking and overvolting is concerned the MSI HD 7870 Hawk pretty much schools all the other 7870's, making it about the speed of a stock hd 7970. THAT is insane overclocking. BUT it is too big for Crossfire on that said motherboard (in my opinion). I just like the XFX for some reason and I know that the newer 7950 black editions come with better BIOS settings which makes it work very cool and still kick ass at benchmarks. I can go on and on, but you get the idea.
September 8, 2012 6:25:31 PM

To be frank, none of the 24" I have seen are able to hold a candle to my old Acer G24. Many come close, but having graphics appear to "pop out" without using 3D is AMAZING.

Also, there's just something about http://www.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/1Phan... this http://www.ocaholic.ch/xoops/html/modules/xcgal/albums/... and this http://www.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/IMG_1... that is very appealing to me. It looks just like Portal 2 xD.

Online games should be fine now that I get 45 ms thx to my new Asus GX1005. I used to get 178 ms, but it would go up to 300+ in Halo, which wasn't very fun.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 9, 2012 3:38:23 AM

idroid said:
Are you.....a Nvidia fanboy, buddy? :??: 

i am fanboy of -
"cheapest and best in it's class thing"
:) 
September 9, 2012 6:54:09 AM



In the USA I could go for the GTX670 or even a GTX680, but since I live in Ukraine the price difference between the GTX670 and the HD 7950 does not make sense. I'm not willing to pay around $70 more for the GTX670 when I can get around the same performance for less. Newegg doesn't ship to Europe. Get this, the minimum wage here is $135 a month and technology is more expensive than in North America. Go figure.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 9, 2012 7:02:45 AM

$70 difference? go with 7950.
September 9, 2012 7:26:50 AM

hellfire24 said:
$70 difference? go with 7950.


Yeah, prices here are ridiculous. I want to see if AMD has stepped up their game since the X1900, which was the card my cousin used to have on my current Dell PC. My 9800 GT got fried a year and a half ago due to bad weather. I had to use an 8400 GS ever since :/ 
a b B Homebuilt system
September 9, 2012 11:53:40 AM

Xile said:
Yeah, prices here are ridiculous. I want to see if AMD has stepped up their game since the X1900, which was the card my cousin used to have on my current Dell PC. My 9800 GT got fried a year and a half ago due to bad weather. I had to use an 8400 GS ever since :/ 


omg... the performance difference between your current and future build is gonna be so freaking HUGE that your pupils will look like this:

September 9, 2012 5:41:03 PM

idroid said:
omg... the performance difference between your current and future build is gonna be so freaking HUGE that your pupils will look like this:

http://lsdhealthperiod7.edublogs.org/files/2011/04/DilatedPupil-1jc1vls.jpg


My sister is helping me pay for the card and she thinks $300+ would be too much, but I'll try to get away with an HD 7950 for $360. Of course I'll pay for 1/3 or 1/2 of the card's total price. Yes, if I had the money I would get the HD 7970 without much thought..but...yeah. It takes way too long to make money here. Remember what I said about minimum wage being $135? Some people here make $90 a month... indeed. I have no idea when I'll be able to save enough for a $1500 rig, but "whew" when I do.
a b B Homebuilt system
September 10, 2012 10:13:19 AM

^good luck with your saving mate :) 
September 10, 2012 12:48:52 PM

hellfire24 said:
^good luck with your saving mate :) 


Thank you. I'm looking forward to playing with the elite, heh.
September 10, 2012 1:16:17 PM

Fellow Ukrainian here= +1 :) 

Hope you get your rig soon! :D 
September 10, 2012 7:28:49 PM

hrath said:
Fellow Ukrainian here= +1 :) 

Hope you get your rig soon! :D 


Thanks, I hope I get a decent job soon. I don't live in the city, so work is pretty sparse. Oh, well. I prefer online work to construction, any day!
!