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September 8, 2012 5:37:11 PM

Wanted to get a second opinion before I buy anything.

Budget: around 1,000$

System usage: Building around playing battlefield 3, plenty of other games that are not as high quality. Also a little bit of video editing and rendering.

Overclocking: Might overclock a little if I need to get a few extra FPS out of battlefield 3 but nothing major.

SLI: Maybe, but I want to try and get away with a single GPU setup for now.


So here's what I have picked out so far.

Case: cooler master 932 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel core i5-3570k http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: MSI 560 twinfrozr 1gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: Biostar hifi z77 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G-skill Ripjaws http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply: Cooler master extreme power plus 700W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU cooler: really would like some advice on this one

I'm not really decided on any of these parts except the case, but I'm open to all suggestions
I'm also thinking of getting the MSI 660, but I think 300$ is a little to much for a GPU. What do you guys think?

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September 8, 2012 5:53:29 PM

To help you gain couple of bucks. Forget that PSU. Unless you want 2 graphics cards, you don't need anything like 700W (+ that one is c**p). You want a decent 500W, like Corsair builder series, or a Seasonic.
I would suggest then, you wait a couple of days. The new GTX660 (not Ti) is due out in couple of days, which might be ideal for your needs. Not quite the power, but bit cheaper than the Ti. Hopefully, there will be reviews, very soon.
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September 8, 2012 6:13:10 PM

Like he^ said, the CM PSU is near-junk. I'm not as confident in the V2 Corsair Builder units as in the original models, because the new ones are made by Channel Well. The first ones were made by Seasonic. The V2's have gotten good reviews though, so maybe they're ok too.
Anyway, for a single graphics card, 500W-550W would be enough. Seasonic (or anything made by them, like XFX, some Antec, and some Corsair), Antec (others are made by Delta, another top OEM), FSP, and Enermax/LEPA are among the better brands.
While I'm not normally a fan of Biostar, that mobo has been reviewed well, and has a good audio codec on it (ALC898). ASRock and Asus also have some boards that use that codec. Since you're not planning on major overclocking, the board you've chosen should be fine. I noted that there's a free 8GB RAM combo with it, which is a pretty good deal.
I didn't see a hard drive in your build. I recommend the WD Black series; most (but not all, so check) still have a five year warranty. Seagate is generally two years, and Samsung has cut its warranty down to a miserable single year.
If you want to play BF3 on high-max settings, I don't think you'll be satisfied with a GTX560. I'd suggest at least a GTX560Ti, and perhaps a HD7870. The GTX660Ti scores higher in benchmarks, but Kepler's compute performance is crippled, so if a future game (or other application) came out that needed that, you'd be hosed. To me, it isn't worth the risk.
Because CM has been found to be dishonest, I recommend against their cases, regardless of quality. Check out Rosewill, Antec, and Lian Li for cases. For the CPU cooler, Xigmatek, Noctua, Scythe, and Corsair offer excellent units.
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September 8, 2012 7:58:30 PM

I hope you don't mind me asking, but what did CoolerMaster do to be found so dishonest.
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September 9, 2012 12:13:40 AM

I don't mind at all.
In reviews of unrelated products (in this case, many of their PSUs), CM was found to be dishonest. Many companies exaggerate, or offer best-case scenarios that are unrealistic at best, but claiming protection circuits that are in fact missing is an outright lie. Here are some sample links:
LL=Liar Label, MC=Missing Circuits

1. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Ex...
2. MC: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-El...
3. LL AND MC: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-El...
4. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eX...
5. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eX...

...I think that's enough. These aren't dings for poor quality, but for dishonesty. Many others get dinged for quality; my favorite is probably the remark in HardOCP's review of the GX-650 calling it a "polished turd in a box."
So anyway, there you have it; a company which should not be supported, regardless of the quality of its other products. And get this, it gets worse. Having been called on it, they're going to pull them from the North American market and foist them off elsewhere. This per Gabriel Torres: "I had a meeting with them during Computex and, according to them, they are removing all power supplies with fake wattage from the North American market (and dumping them somewhere else)."

So, I speak out against CM. I think one or more high-level decision-makers at the company, who MUST be aware of all this, should be fined back to penury, and thrown in jail to rot. This is willful consumer fraud, and there should be dire consequences for it. Why they aren't under investigation is baffling.
Anyway.... /rant
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September 9, 2012 12:32:34 AM

Onus said:
I don't mind at all.
In reviews of unrelated products (in this case, many of their PSUs), CM was found to be dishonest. Many companies exaggerate, or offer best-case scenarios that are unrealistic at best, but claiming protection circuits that are in fact missing is an outright lie. Here are some sample links:
LL=Liar Label, MC=Missing Circuits

1. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Ex...
2. MC: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-El...
3. LL AND MC: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-El...
4. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eX...
5. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eX...

...I think that's enough. These aren't dings for poor quality, but for dishonesty. Many others get dinged for quality; my favorite is probably the remark in HardOCP's review of the GX-650 calling it a "polished turd in a box."
So anyway, there you have it; a company which should not be supported, regardless of the quality of its other products. And get this, it gets worse. Having been called on it, they're going to pull them from the North American market and foist them off elsewhere. This per Gabriel Torres: "I had a meeting with them during Computex and, according to them, they are removing all power supplies with fake wattage from the North American market (and dumping them somewhere else)."

So, I speak out against CM. I think one or more high-level decision-makers at the company, who MUST be aware of all this, should be fined back to penury, and thrown in jail to rot. This is willful consumer fraud, and there should be dire consequences for it. Why they aren't under investigation is baffling.
Anyway.... /rant


Thank you for this information I will definitely look for another power supply. I'm really glad I posted this on the forum before buying.
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September 9, 2012 12:45:29 AM

way to much spent on the case just get a 912 it is not even half the price.you could get a 7870 or even a 7950 and with these 2 you could get a 600w psu
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