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September 8, 2012 5:57:52 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: 3 weeks

Budget Range: ~$1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Home internet surfing, Media (DVD Blu-Ray replacement)

Are you buying a monitor: Yes



Parts to Upgrade: N/A

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Location: Monterrey, CA

Parts Preferences: I haven't had much experience, but for some reason I feel more comfortable with intel cpu.

Overclocking: no

SLI or Crossfire: no

Your Monitor Resolution: I'd like a 1920x1080, and as large as possible for multimedia viewing

Additional Comments: Mostly the only games i play are wow and diablo 3, and even those just sparingly, but i'd like to have a pc that can play these without stutter on fairly high graphics. If soundcards/speakers are necessary/are within my price range, i'd like to find something like that as well. I also want this pc to last me as LONG as possible, years and years and years i would hope. I'd be willing to put out a bit more $ for a few more years of use.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I'm running off a 2008 dell netbook currently, and would like to upgrade to a pc which will last me a while without having to upgrade too much in the future. I also want to have the capability to play movies and such with my pc instead of having to have a seperate system.


Rosewill R5 Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Case, comes with 2 x front fans, Fan Controller, USB2.0 & USB3.0 front ports, Removable top and lower front filter panels

bundled with:
1x Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-550-M 550W ATX12V ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

GIGABYTE GA-Z77-D3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M2A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel 330 Series Maple Crest SSDSC2CT120A3K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GV-R785OC-2GD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

as i said, i'm really new at this, and i'm pretty sure i haven't done near enough research here, so any and all comments are appreciated/wanted. thanks so much

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September 8, 2012 6:27:49 PM

If you're not overclocking drop the i5 3570K it's unnecessary anyways for the apps you wanted to use the build for. A locked i5 3450 would be enough for this build. Also a B75 motherboard is enough on the motherboard side.
You also didn't list working with programs like Adobe Premiere Pro or Adobe After Effects, so is a zero need to use 16GB, there's not really a need to use it even in the future. 8GB will be enough for a long long time.

Check out my $650 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore#module14669582...
Samsung 830 128GB: http://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7PC1...
Total: $731

In terms of SSDs Intel falls behind a bit, the Samsung benches better and I don't know that we can yet say the Samsung has better reliability (although I think it does) their reliability is definitely on par.
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September 8, 2012 6:28:10 PM

If you're not going to overclock then it's pointless to purchase the 3570K. Also I'd switch out that SSD with a Samsung 830 or Crucial M4. For your intended uses you won't come remotely close to using 16GB of RAM. Also you have a $1500 budget, why not purchase a stronger GPU?

Try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($110.85 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($317.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi Tower ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS224-06 DVD/CD Writer ($29.97 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1205.61
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-08 14:29 EDT-0400)
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September 8, 2012 6:30:31 PM

Not bad, really. If you are planning to overclock CPU, you need aftermarket cooler, something like Coolermaster Hyper212 EVO, is good enough. If so, you will need low profile RAM. I doubt you need 16GB. 8 is more than enough. It's only stuff like high end video editng needs 16GB. For SSD, personally I prefer Samsung 830, or Crucial M4, but that's just personnal opinion. For what you're talking about graphics card is plenty. All basically good, with those slight reservations.
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September 8, 2012 7:53:03 PM

G-unit, thanks a lot for the feedback! I took your build and replaced the sad with the Samsung like you said (saved $30 in the process) and then I would like to stick with my same mobo , to take advantage of the free 8gb memory that comes with it at newegg, though whether that offer will stick around remains to be seen. All in all I think I'll come around $1100 which rocks. The few things I forgot to mention are that I need a monitor and keyboard/mouse. I'm just fine with a cheap $10 mouse, but I'd like a little feedback as far as the monitor and keyboard goes. I had my eye on a 27" Asus monitor 1080p w/ built in speakers, but I don't really know enough to be confident on that or the keyboard
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September 8, 2012 8:44:21 PM

^ IMO, not to bash on his build but it's more than you'll need. You could easily have a great build for only ~$700 honestly. With the things you said you wanted, there is absolutely no need to go over $800 on this build. Save it for something else. It's better to incrementally upgrade than do it all at once.
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September 9, 2012 1:20:53 AM

Why is it better to do the upgrades over time? It seems to me that I'd have to pay for parts that I'll end up not using sooner than later, and I would have to buy the better parts anyways.. I have more than enough to pay for even more performance, and it seems to me like the performance listed in his build is what will be necessary in the future.
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September 9, 2012 2:33:49 AM

Because Haswell (the next line of chips) will release next year therefore making IvyBridge/Sandybridge's 1155 chip socket obsolete. Also $650 has everything his build has at a lower price. For the games you listed you simply don't need a 7950, The 6870 or for that matter a 7850 would be more that sufficient.

Also, you will never need a 650w, you're not using two cards so I think it'd be a waste to go towards that route. Overall if you bought all of the top things now, within a year or two they will be replaced with their next series. Hence why in the current day and age spending $1500+ on a build isn't quite worth it.
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September 9, 2012 6:47:49 PM

Alright shinobi, I've taken your build and kind of made a hybrid between the 650 and 850, with a few tweaks (mostly the psu, i don't want to have to deal with getting a seperate power cord) and this is what i've come up with.
Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
$64.99
PNY Optima 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) PC3-10666 1333MHz DDR3 Desktop DIMMs Memory Kit MD8192KD3-1333
31.87
Antec Gaming Series one illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
49.99
SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-7PC064B/WW
62.99
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon 2GB DDR5 VGA/DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort GPU Tweak Utilities PCI-Express 3.0 Graphics Card HD7870-DC2-2GD5
249.99
ASRock B75M LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
64.99
Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53570
214.99
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
109.99

which all comes out to 850. a RIDICULOUS price cut. thank you for your advice. I'm still looking for a good monitor and keyboard however, this is the one i'm looking at currently:
ASUS VE276Q Black 27" 1920X1080 2ms Full HD HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor w/Display Port & Speakers 300 cd/m2 100,000 :1 (ASCR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and i haven't decided on a keyboard, because i don't really know what i need. suggestions?
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September 9, 2012 8:08:36 PM

The one thing I do note, is that build has 1333MHz memory. Definitely worth having 1600MHz mem, supported with Ivybridge.
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September 9, 2012 9:12:25 PM

Okay, swap it for 8 gb 1600, anything else?
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September 9, 2012 9:53:43 PM

chasek17 said:
Okay, swap it for 8 gb 1600, anything else?

Looks very good. Keyboards are a fairly personal thing. What's great for one person, is "unusable" to another. If you don't KNOW what you want from a keyboard, I would suggest getting something fairly basic and cheap. Then, if after a while you find you are not satisfied, and want something better, at least you'll have a good idea WHAT you want to be better, and won't have wasted a lot of money. You could get what appears to be the world's best keyboard, now, and hate it!
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September 9, 2012 10:08:26 PM

Go with the i5 3450. There is 0 need for an i5 3570 when it is only a couple hundred mhz off. Definitely not worth the extra $25.

PSU wise, save some money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Your HDD is way expensive. WD has a bit too pricey HDD's for me.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 9, 2012 10:53:12 PM

aznshinobi said:
Go with the i5 3450. There is 0 need for an i5 3570 when it is only a couple hundred mhz off. Definitely not worth the extra $25.

PSU wise, save some money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Your HDD is way expensive. WD has a bit too pricey HDD's for me.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Is that PSU modular. If not, would have thought the bit extra OP is paying for modular was worth it. Agree Seagate or Samsung may be better value than Western Digital, but not sure about Toshiba. I've got one (fortunately not only one) and it's c**p. Of course, I may just be unlucky with the one I bought.
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September 9, 2012 10:54:31 PM

The BP550 is not modular. You have to look closer to the picture, it has 2 cables that can actually be removed. Pretty much nonmodular.

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September 9, 2012 11:21:17 PM

My problem with the antec psu is that I have nowhere to scavenge a power cord or anything like that. Shipping an extra cord would add to the price, and pull me up to somewhere close to the psu I picked, which is somewhat modular to boot. Am I wrong?
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September 9, 2012 11:52:34 PM

aznshinobi said:
The BP550 is not modular. You have to look closer to the picture, it has 2 cables that can actually be removed. Pretty much nonmodular.

Apologies if I got that wrong, but as it's listed as modular, and loads of user reviews on Newegg praising its modular cabling, I just more or less assumed....
On reading deeper found couple of comments "semi-modular", so you're obviously right.
On other hand, I'm not convinced there was anything wrong with OP's original choices, on that. His combo of (at least) decent Rosewill case, and CAPSTONE 80 Plus Gold PSU, was none too shabby. He obviously liked case, and PSU was better than anything that's being discussed now, so I'm not sure saving him $20 is really that worthwhile.
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September 9, 2012 11:57:44 PM

Haha my bad as well, there are a few cables that are modular.

Ahhh that was a combo, it's a very nice combo. He can go that route if he wishes.
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September 10, 2012 2:19:28 PM

What exactly makes a good case? Or makes one "better" than another one? I got that combo just for the psu, and I figured a case with enough slots is good enough. Am I missing something to look for?
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September 10, 2012 4:22:02 PM

chasek17 said:
What exactly makes a good case? Or makes one "better" than another one? I got that combo just for the psu, and I figured a case with enough slots is good enough. Am I missing something to look for?

A good case: Good build quality, good provision for cable management, good ventilation/airflow, provision for extra fans if required, quiet. At the end of the day, it's mostly a question of what you like the look of, provided all the other things are at least reasonable. That's why I said the original choice wasn't bad. It's what OP obviously liked, and quality is, at least, reasonably good, and came, in a combo, with a much better PSU, than the ones currently being discussed. There are better cases, in terms of quality, but there's nothing really WRONG with earlier choice.
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September 10, 2012 11:38:24 PM

^+1

You should also just like to look at it. I mean that's what I look for, after all you will be looking at it for a long time. But definitely cooling-sound efficiency is one thing to look at. Quality is another, and cable management is crucial for others like me.
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September 14, 2012 12:03:45 AM

Alright.. after much consideration and fiddling and wife persuading, this is the build i've settled on. If you guys could give it one last looksie just for compatibility and such, I would REALLY appreciate it.
Storage: SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-7PC064B/WW
62.99
HDD SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
84.99
Graphics Card: ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon 2GB DDR5 VGA/DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort GPU Tweak Utilities PCI-Express 3.0 Graphics Card HD7870-DC2-2GD5
249.99 (I know it's overkill, but i like having the option)
Motherboard/RAM: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Free 8GB desktop memory w/ purchase, limited offer
144.99
CPU:Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53570
214.99 (I decided $20 is worth it for the few extra ghz just in case)
Case/Power Supply: Rosewill R5 Black ATX Mid Tower Case, comes with 2 x front fans, Fan Controller, USB2.0 & USB3.0 front ports, Removable top and lower front filter panels
bundled with:
1x Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-550-M 550W ATX12V ..
129.98
Monitor: ASUS VE278Q Black 27" 1920x1080 2ms Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor w/Speakers 300 cd/m2 ASCR 10,000,000:1
294.99
DVD/CD Drive: (It's where you put the DVD and CD into.)LG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH24NS90 - OEM
17.99
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
99.99
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September 14, 2012 2:06:24 AM

? IDK why you still need a dedicated card and if you go with the i5 3570 you might as well get the K to be able to overclock. Otherwise I'd just stick with the i5 3450, the i5 3450 can turbo to the i5 3570's clocks anyways. It makes almost 0 difference in terms of performance.

Motherboard I'd still go with this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Save money and save features... I don't expect you to need SLI/CF at all so the board suggested will be enough and overclock fine if you do go the K route. If not then the board will save money and it wouldn't even matter to overclock or not.
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September 15, 2012 6:34:09 PM

Best answer selected by chasek17.
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