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September 8, 2012 8:17:58 PM

Hello guys,

so in this month I want to buy new PC for FULL HD gaming, programming (and similar stuff, as i am studying computer science)

and I would like you to advice me if this built is ok and what would you change and why.

Location:p oland
Overclocking: Mid OC ( i want this pc to be alive for 4-5 yrs)

Graphics: Evga Geforce GTX680 Classified 4GB vram
Proc: I7 3930K
Disk SSD (for system): Kingston HyperX SH100S3B/120G Upgrade Bundle Kit [ I am not certain here either]
Hard Drive(i am not certain here): Seagate 2TB SV35 7200
MotherBoard:Asus 9X79 Intel X79 LGA 2011
RAM: Corsair CML16GX3M4A1866C9B
PS: Corsair CMPSU-850AXEU
ODD: Pioneer BDR-207EBK
CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D14 - LGA2011
Case:Corsair Graphite 600T CC600TWM-WHT White Window

Thank you in advance for your help :) 

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September 8, 2012 8:24:32 PM

Unless it is professional programming, you don't need the 3930k. Drop it down to an i7-3770k and mobo to ASRock Z77 Extreme4.
a b 4 Gaming
September 8, 2012 8:41:33 PM

Is that $3000 USD or is it in a different currency?
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September 8, 2012 8:44:08 PM

He lives in Poland.
September 8, 2012 9:01:52 PM

Its 3000 USD guys, for 3000PLN i wouldnt be able to buy this gpu and cpu :) 
a b 4 Gaming
September 8, 2012 9:06:52 PM

Wow... Are you sure that you want to spend that much on a purely gaming computer? It just seems wasteful. I can make recommendations for it anyway that I think you'd be happy with (since it would be basically the best possible parts for gaming), but I think that $3000 or so is just too much to spend and get your money's worth out of it. Performance would be unbeatable, but value would be low.

Also, what display setup do you plan on doing? Full HD is merely 1080p and I can build a $450-600 (not counting Windows, displays, and peripherals) computer that can play that with the texture quality maxed out in even the most intensive games with some AA and tessellation and would manage for at least three or four years in 1080p with either max or near max texture quality if you overclock. Such a high budget seems more like what I'd expect from a computer intended to run a triple 1080p120Hz or triple 1080p3D display setup.
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 3:17:51 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gWBP

3K Build

OR....
Here's a 1.5k build. This will give you everything you need for gaming for several years.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gWEf

You have a fast CPU, TWO of the fastest GPU's on the market, one of the best CPU coolers on the market for a nice overclock, fast RAM, a 60GB SSD (incl. w/ MOBO), a fast 1.5TB HD, a nice case with USB 3.0, and a good PSU.

Half the price of the 3K build, but the performance increase will be marginal in almost all areas except for GPU power (which is already ridiculously overpowered for most resolutions)

Good Luck
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 3:22:47 AM

mastrom101 said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gWBP

3K Build

OR....
Here's a 1.5k build. This will give you everything you need for gaming for several years.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gWEf

You have a fast CPU, TWO of the fastest GPU's on the market, one of the best CPU coolers on the market for a nice overclock, fast RAM, a 60GB SSD (incl. w/ MOBO), a fast 1.5TB HD, a nice case with USB 3.0, and a good PSU.

Half the price of the 3K build, but the performance increase will be marginal in almost all areas except for GPU power (which is already ridiculously overpowered for most resolutions)

Good Luck


OCZ PSU and mere 60GB SSD? Switch out the 7970s for 7950s, that PSU for a similarly high wattage model from a better brand such as Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, PCP&P, XFX, or at least Rosewill. Switch out the 60GB SSD for a 256GB Vertex 4, Samsung 830, or other Marvell-based SSD (excluding the Crucial M4, it's kinda slow compared to the others).
September 9, 2012 4:15:51 AM

no need to spend $3k on a gaming rig,here's a very capable rig-
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gWXB
this rig will-
max out any game at 1080p or even higher.
overclock well.
hopefully keep you satisfied.
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 4:38:00 AM

mastrom101's 1.5K build with my recommended changes is far better than that build, hellfire24, but it's only a little more expensive.
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 4:39:45 AM

I still don't see how a 7950 OCs EXACTLY the same as the 7970 GHz.
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 4:42:56 AM

azeem40 said:
I still don't see how a 7950 OCs EXACTLY the same as the 7970 GHz.


Not the GHz Edition, but as well as the regular 7970s that have the same coolers. The 7950 is almost as good as the 7970s with the top coolers and as the 7970 GHz Editions, but not quite. It's because the core count difference and the texture unit count difference between the 7950 and the 7970 doesn't really matter. The performance difference between them is almost purely the clock frequency difference and the 7950 has overall equal average headroom to a 7970 with the same cooler. The standard 7970's somewhat better binning is negated by the 7970's Tahiti using less active die area (less active die area means lower power consumption at a given voltage even with somewhat inferior binning) and the performance difference between the two at the same frequency is far closer than the difference in GPU block count. The 7970' GHz Edition's binning is god enough to pull out ahead of the 7950 and the top 7970s simply have better coolers.
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 4:43:52 AM

Where did you learn all this?
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 4:45:28 AM

I want to learn too. Is there a specific place you found all this out?
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 4:47:19 AM

azeem40 said:
Where did you learn all this?


Well, I keep up with the hardware and look into it. I have some GPU engineering experience and I'd hate to get rusty. I've seen comparisons of the 7950 and the 7970 at the same frequency (difference was less than 5%, sometimes there was no difference and in a few rare occasions, the 7950 somehow won slightly) and I've seen first-hand and through other people how much headroom the 7950 has. The 7850, 7950, and 7750 have similar frequency headroom to their larger 7770, 7870, and 7970 brothers (although the 7750 can be held back by it's lack of a PCIe power connector) when given similar coolers, although the 7750 and the 7870 have more significant performance differences even at the same frequency than the 7950 and the 7970. The 7950 and the 7970 are closer than the 670 is to the 680 when they have the same frequencies.
September 9, 2012 4:49:36 AM

blazorthon said:
Not the GHz Edition, but as well as the regular 7970s that have the same coolers. The 7950 is almost as good as the 7970s with the top coolers and as the 7970 GHz Editions, but not quite. It's because the core count difference and the texture unit count difference between the 7950 and the 7970 doesn't really matter. The performance difference between them is almost purely the clock frequency difference and the 7950 has overall equal average headroom to a 7970 with the same cooler. The standard 7970's somewhat better binning is negated by the 7970's Tahiti using less active die area (less active die area means lower power consumption at a given voltage even with somewhat inferior binning) and the performance difference between the two at the same frequency is far closer than the difference in GPU block count. The 7970' GHz Edition's binning is god enough to pull out ahead of the 7950 and the top 7970s simply have better coolers.

:ouch:  :o  :ouch:  :pfff:  :wahoo: 
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 4:50:57 AM

I don't see what's so surprising about that hellfire. :o 
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 4:53:21 AM

hellfire24 said:
the surprising thing is that he is judging gpu's on the basis of their coolers and this-


That's how I first judged the parity of the 7950 and the 7970 at the same frequency. Further personal experience with the cards, friends experience with several 7950s, and reading many reviews that involved overclocking the 7950s shows the frequencies that the 7950 models tend to hit and how they relate to the 7970s. I'm also experienced with 7850s compared to 7870s, but the GPU differences there are enough for a significant gaming performance difference even at the same GPU and memory frequency with the 7850 and the 7870.
September 9, 2012 4:54:16 AM

blazorthon said:
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/34761-amd-hd-795...

See for yourself. It's old now, but drivers can't change hardware behavior like this.


the surprising thing is that you are judging gpu's on the basis of their coolers and this-


azeem40 said:
I still don't see how a 7950 OCs EXACTLY the same as the 7970 GHz.

a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 4:56:55 AM

So what are you implying? That the benchmarks posted by Blazorthorn are wrong?
September 9, 2012 4:59:03 AM

azeem40 said:
So what are you implying? That the benchmarks posted by Blazorthorn are wrong?


i though you he was talking about a 7950 vs 7970 GHz :whistle:  -
azeem40 said:
I still don't see how a 7950 OCs EXACTLY the same as the 7970 GHz.

a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 5:00:49 AM

hellfire24 said:
i though you he was talking about a 7950 vs 7970 GHz :whistle:  -


The 7970 GHz Edition's superior binning compared to a standard 7970 is good enough to keep somewhat ahead of the best 7950s. If I ever said otherwise, then I made a mistake.
September 9, 2012 9:44:50 AM

But its a PC for few years (4-5) so six cores in processor may pay off later no?

Also I am concerned which SSD should I take?
September 9, 2012 1:54:11 PM

but its lga 1155 and in future it won't be used ivy bridge-e will prolly be on lga 2011 ;p
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2012 2:17:56 PM

blazorthon said:
OCZ PSU and mere 60GB SSD? Switch out the 7970s for 7950s, that PSU for a similarly high wattage model from a better brand such as Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, PCP&P, XFX, or at least Rosewill. Switch out the 60GB SSD for a 256GB Vertex 4, Samsung 830, or other Marvell-based SSD (excluding the Crucial M4, it's kinda slow compared to the others).


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gWEf
This provides the best value compared to those changes, but here you go:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gYtu
Better PSU, Larger SSD, Larger Price Tag.

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