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September 9, 2012 2:21:25 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: 2013 March, after i return from deployment

Budget Range: $5,000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Skype/Video, Web Browsing

Are you buying a monitor: I will be hooking it up to a 42" TV, looking into a second monitor though.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, I will most likely go with Windows 7 Ultimate and then get Windows 8 when i am able to.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: No Preference, as long as US, CA shipping is a possibility :) 

Location:CA, USA

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: Intel, GTX670/680/690 GPU

Overclocking: Maybe a small bit of over clocking on the Processor and Video cards just to mess around with it.

SLI or Crossfire: SLI

Your Monitor Resolution: UNKNOWN, still looking into monitors for a 2nd one.

This build is still Months away i am just trying to look into the future on things to come when i get back, because i am going to start this immediately when i return.

I was looking on custom gaming rig websites like stealthmachines, alienware, ibuypower and others to play around but in the end i will probably build it myself.

Case:anything to support the build, preferably black metal not a crazy skin or custom design.

Motherboard:i was looking into the X79's but i dont know much about the difference of them.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
PSU:atleast 1200 W

Cooling:I would prefer it be fan cooled and fans on Every port possible.

Processor:i7 3930k seems the best so far for money to output but i can work with any suggestions :) 
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
GPU:GTX preferably for tri-sli or quad?

ram:Gskill or corsair preferably, 32 gigs

I would like to get a BigFoot Networks 2100 NIC to try it out

SoundCard: Honestly i can use Onboard sound but if its in the price range im fine with a sound card.

HDD: Preferably 2 x 1 TB, 1 for every day use and 1 for constant changes such as new operating systems and getting wiped every week for play and programming

Optical Drive: Anything that reads, writes and burns

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, i will get 8 later

I hope this is the format its supposed to be in, this is my first time posting and i am constricted to the sites i can visit because of internet blocks since im in afghanistan, happy to visit this site though :) 

If you want, just make a PC for 5k or less :) 

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September 9, 2012 2:32:48 PM

you can max things out for 1500.

it would actually make much more sense when you come back in march due to pricing changes and newer components. heres what i would get as of now

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/geWL

-you dont need a 6 core to play games
-you dont need windows 7 ultimate as the extra feature is only to do with languages
-you dont need that much ram
-you dont need a 680 or 690 since a 670 provides about as much performance as a 680 and one 670 will max out games at 1080p no problem
-you definitely dont need that much wattage given how low power these components are. the 750w i provided will be good enough for 2 670s in SLI if you chose to do that in the future

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September 9, 2012 2:33:51 PM

The main question is, why Hex-core. Honestly, it gains you absolutely nothing, unless you are doing high-end photography, or design. Even then, it's only worth it, if you are doing those things, professionally. You've obviously got plenty of scope, in your budget, for anything you want, but there's no point throwing it away, unless you actually need those sort of capabilities. Much better to build a REALLY good system, for what you actually NEED.
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September 9, 2012 3:48:38 PM

mastrom101 said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gYNy

Way overpowered, but if that's what you want...


-sure quad SLI 690s would make sense on a 1080p screen
-sure a maximus extreme would make sense
-sure velociraptors would increase system performance when he has a big SSD
-same with the sound card, case, power supply, ram and the i7.

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September 9, 2012 4:01:32 PM

ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011 Intel X79
i7 3930k
GTX 690
Cosmos 2
16 GB G.skill Trident X 2400
Intel 520 240GB SSD
2 TB WD Black HDD
Antec HCP 1000w
Dell u3011
H100

You have the budget so you all or most of it
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September 9, 2012 4:20:59 PM

I would have thought it made most sense for OP to start by putting a third of that budget, in his back pocket, and build a high spec system, with expandability, for what he actually needs. i7, if he really wants it (but hex-core is pointless), RoG or Sabretooth, GOOD GTX 670 (or, perhaps HD7950/70), good 750W psu, etc. Then he can spend the "change", on whichever direction he wants to go: SLi, sound system, gaming aids, whatever.
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September 9, 2012 4:23:23 PM

malbluff said:
I would have thought it made most sense for OP to start by putting a third of that budget, in his back pocket, and build a high spec system, with expandability, for what he actually needs. i7, if he really wants it (but hex-core is pointless), RoG or Sabretooth, GOOD GTX 670 (or, perhaps HD7950/70), good 750W psu, etc. Then he can spend the "change", on whichever direction he wants to go: SLi, sound system, gaming aids, whatever.


+1. other people dont seem to get that
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September 9, 2012 4:26:26 PM

malbluff said:
I would have thought it made most sense for OP to start by putting a third of that budget, in his back pocket, and build a high spec system, with expandability, for what he actually needs. i7, if he really wants it (but hex-core is pointless), RoG or Sabretooth, GOOD GTX 670 (or, perhaps HD7950/70), good 750W psu, etc. Then he can spend the "change", on whichever direction he wants to go: SLi, sound system, gaming aids, whatever.



Why do people buy ferrari's? I mean a simple Toyota can take them anywhere they want to go right?

The guy has the budget 5K= High end, so advice him properly he is aboviously not a penny pincher
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September 9, 2012 4:28:55 PM

This build is too far out to advise on parts. Next gen GPUs will be arriving around that time, so there's no point in talking about 670s since what you'll want is its successor, even though it will still be a good card.
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September 9, 2012 4:44:46 PM

cuecuemore said:
This build is too far out to advise on parts. Next gen GPUs will be arriving around that time, so there's no point in talking about 670s since what you'll want is its successor, even though it will still be a good card.

In all honesty, probably very true. It's all very well to use a "bit of judgement", on the future, for a budget build. I certainly don't know what's going to be the best high-end build in six months time. I doubt anyone really does. Lost my crystal ball.
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September 9, 2012 4:50:37 PM

On a 42" TV, you can max things out for $1500-$2000.

If I'm sending $4-6K I'd go this route:


Case - $360 - Thermaltake Level 10 GT UGK Combat Snow Edition Gaming Kit w/ Keyboard, Mouse and Headset http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fan - $12 - Thermaltake Blue120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $285 - Corsair AX1200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $552 - ASUS P8Z77 WS w/ 3570k CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl - Intel Core i7-3570k Included w/ MoBo
Cooler - $88 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $140 - (4 x 4GB) Muskin Redline DDR3 1600 CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII 2GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII 2GB same
GFX - Later - Asus GTX 670 DCII 2GB same
HD - $200 - Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $190 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $47 - Asus Model BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Card Reader $63 AFT XM-37U USB 3.0 3.5" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $330 ASUS VG236H Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $330 ASUS VG236H Black 23" Same
Monitor $330 ASUS VG236H Black 23" Same
Keyboard - incl Tt eSPORTS Mega G1 Included w/ Case
Mouse - incl Gaming Mouse Included w/ Case
Headphones - incl Shock Gaming Headset Included w/ Case
3D Kit incl nVidia Vision 2 3D Glasses http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - $140 - Win 7-64 Home Professional http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $3,912

Get the HX 850 PSU and save $150 if ya don't think you'll ever add that 3rd GFX Card

27" Screens are $270 more
Monitor - $600 - ASUS VG Series VG278H 27" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Misc. Comments:

Skip Ultimate, you don't need Bit Locker
Skip Sound Card
Skip Killer NIC
Image the OS install on the SSD to the HD once all tweaked. Then just restore the image anytime ya wanna start fresh
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September 9, 2012 8:41:59 PM

TheBigTroll said:
-sure quad SLI 690s would make sense on a 1080p screen
-sure a maximus extreme would make sense
-sure velociraptors would increase system performance when he has a big SSD
-same with the sound card, case, power supply, ram and the i7.



Did the OP ask for a 1K gaming rig? I didn't think so. Look, I don't think it's money well spent to pay 5K for a gaming rig, but if the OP want's that, then let it be.

But don't give him a Toyota when he wants a Ferrari
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September 9, 2012 9:09:35 PM

mastrom101 said:
Did the OP ask for a 1K gaming rig? I didn't think so. Look, I don't think it's money well spent to pay 5K for a gaming rig, but if the OP want's that, then let it be.

But don't give him a Toyota when he wants a Ferrari

They are trying to give him a Toyota sleeper car. He wants a Ferrari, but the Toyota will perform just as good for what he needs.
Aside from the point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUrfIW4zQmM

Back on subject, keep in mind that size does not affect the horsepower needed to drive it. A 42" 1080p monitor has the same amount of pixels as a 21.5" 1080p monitor. For this reason, 2 GTX 690s would make no sense.

As for CPU performance, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4PDoy-mi0A (Proves that you don't need even 4 cores for gaming, but maybe in the future)

Memory can go to 16GB, but 8 is enough. 16GB WILL indeed give you better performance in some games, but any more is not useful, unless you plan on editing 4K pictures or videos.

A second monitor would have to be 42" in order for you to use both in gaming, but it would leave an awkward bezel in the middle. If you plan to go with a surround gaming set up, then even a single GTX 690 could drive it, but then Radeon HD cards would come into consideration.

As for Windows 7, the Ultimate edition provides no other features other than language packs over Windows 7 Professional. So unless you will be switching from English to Chinese, then Arabic, you will have no use for the added features.
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September 10, 2012 7:39:26 AM

Thank you all so much for replies, i havent gotten to read into them all much but i will shortly when i have time after this project, i am really looking forward to the advice and criticism :) 
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September 10, 2012 3:21:03 PM

CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K $549.99

Motherboard
ASRock X79 Extreme9 $344.99

Memory
Corsair 16GB $164.99

Video Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 670 $459.99
EVGA GeForce GTX 670 $459.99


So i have it down to these, i would like a case with a TON of fan hook ups im not big into water cooling, and i would like 2 HDD's one will be a SSD HDD and the other just a regular 2tb to store all my data, the SSD only has to be like 128 or less GB
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September 10, 2012 3:26:28 PM

Best answer selected by Treven.
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September 10, 2012 3:28:29 PM

treven said:
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K $549.99

Motherboard
ASRock X79 Extreme9 $344.99

Memory
Corsair 16GB $164.99

Video Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 670 $459.99
EVGA GeForce GTX 670 $459.99


So i have it down to these, i would like a case with a TON of fan hook ups im not big into water cooling, and i would like 2 HDD's one will be a SSD HDD and the other just a regular 2tb to store all my data, the SSD only has to be like 128 or less GB


1:if you are getting x79 motherboards, get the asus p9x79 pro
2:i can get 16gb of ram for 82 bucks and it would perform the same
3:the cooling on evga cards are overated. the best one would be the msi power edition. if you are getting 2 cards, you better have a 120hz monitor or else they will be useless to you
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September 10, 2012 3:33:47 PM

why the motherboard?
What do you mean about the cooling on the EVGA cards? whats the signifigant difference between them?
why a 120hz monitor for dual GPU's? what makes that significant?

Sorry im a newb :/ 
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September 10, 2012 4:00:17 PM

treven said:
why the motherboard?
What do you mean about the cooling on the EVGA cards? whats the signifigant difference between them?
why a 120hz monitor for dual GPU's? what makes that significant?

Sorry im a newb :/ 


1: because asus motherboards are easier to use and they are typically built better
2: the cooling on evga cards are stock. the ones on the msi power edition are custom. the msi cards run 10c cooler and can overvolt (more power= more oc usually). not to mention it is cheaper
3:because 2 670s put out around 80-100 fps in games. if you use a standard 60hz monitor, the extra frames to you are useless given you cant see them (meaning getting 2 670s are a waste)

honestly, id get the system i recommended in the first place. there is no point of your rig if you are just gaming



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