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Final Check 1200-1500 SWTOR/GW2/Gaming Build

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September 9, 2012 10:51:22 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: September 15

Budget Range: 1200-1500

Are you buying a monitor: I have a HP w2207 (1680 x 1050 5ms) Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website for Parts: newegg.com

Location: Tennessee

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU, NVIDIA GPU, ASUS Mobo

Overclocking: Not anytime soon, perhaps down the road but i'm clueless when it comes to overclocking
Your Monitor Resolution: 1680 x 1050

This build is exclusively for Star Wars: The Old Republic and Guild Wars 2. I want the most FPS I can get for both. I probably won't be overclocking these games, so please tell me if I should scratch the CPU and go with the i5-3570 instead. I would also need to buy the Non-OC MSI 660 Ti instead. However, I might overclock down the road, so spending an extra 20-30$ would be worth it. I'm not sure how reliable combo deals are, I don't want to buy one if they aren't. Not to mention, the 660ti bought solo comes with Borderlands 2.

CPU+GPU Combo Deal:
-Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000
-MSI N660 Ti PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
=520$ with 10$ MIR

Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - 190$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
+FREE RAM: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM 100$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold ((SS-650KM Active PFC F3)) 650W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply - 140$ (15% off with promo code SSPSUSEP12, ends 9/10) = 119$
-I agree it's slightly overpriced, but SeaSonic is by far the best brand for PSU, also has 5 year warranty

Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan - 31$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - 20$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 500R Black Steel structure with molded ABS plastic accent pieces ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - 115$(after rebate 95$)

SSD: SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - 100$

Total: 1195$
September 10, 2012 12:54:40 AM

Will be getting the SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply instead of the 650 for future proofing. It's only an extra 9$ after promo code.
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September 10, 2012 1:00:43 AM

If you won't CF/SLI, you are wasting $. There is no such thing as future proofing in PSUs since power requirements will continue to decline.
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September 10, 2012 1:05:07 AM

azeem40 said:
If you won't CF/SLI, you are wasting $. There is no such thing as future proofing in PSUs since power requirements will continue to decline.


still a killer deal
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September 10, 2012 1:09:43 AM

As such, if cooling is your primary concern then the Corsair Carbide 500R remains our chassis of choice. If you’re less inclined to push your hardware to its limit though, or just want a case with a little more refinement to it, the Define R4 is a great choice and a worthy successor to the Define legacy.

So if you prefer cooling, choose the 500R, or if you care more about noise, choose the R4.

www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/07/20/fractal-design-def...
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September 10, 2012 1:14:14 AM

TheBigTroll said:
still a killer deal

Seems stupid to me you'd buy a PSU just because of a deal. You should buy a PSU that meets your needs, not how little more it is compared to the one you will need.
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September 10, 2012 5:00:15 AM

I'll be ordering this thing Monday afternoon. My last order of business is to figure out if I need to purchase Windows 7 or get it off the internet..
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September 10, 2012 7:39:35 AM

Also, can I just scratch buying a HDD completely? Can I just instal Win 7 on my SSD, and put all of my games and apps on the External Hard Drive? Or would that be slow?

Lastly, how is the SSD I listed above? Good enough I hope.. Not looking to spend 200+
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-recommendation-...
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September 10, 2012 8:03:45 AM

hmille0 said:
Also, can I just scratch buying a HDD completely? Can I just instal Win 7 on my SSD, and put all of my games and apps on the External Hard Drive? Or would that be slow?

Lastly, how is the SSD I listed above? Good enough I hope.. Not looking to spend 200+
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-recommendation-...


If you want full benefit of an SSD, you need to get the games and apps in there along with windows.
As for the PSU, if you're getting a good deal, there's no harm in getting a higher wattage PSU. It'll still only consume what your PC needs. Also, most PSUs give you max. efficiency at 50% load, so in that sense you might end up getting the most out of it.
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September 10, 2012 10:43:19 AM

azeem40 said:
Seems stupid to me you'd buy a PSU just because of a deal. You should buy a PSU that meets your needs, not how little more it is compared to the one you will need.


if he says he is going to do some SLI in the future, then the 750w wont go to waste
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September 10, 2012 1:32:52 PM

so I can just forget a HDD, and spend that 60$ on getting a 256GB SSD drive instead right? seems like a good idea, especially one of the top tier ones from the TomsHardware Benchmark Tests.
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September 10, 2012 1:42:43 PM

yes you could do that as well
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September 10, 2012 3:16:23 PM

agreed ditch that HDD as you got some external ones for storage and get your self a kick ass SSD

getting the higher wattage psu with a good deal is great ^_^.
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September 10, 2012 7:41:55 PM

Thanks TheBigTroll and Tavo_Nova. Will be ordering this thing today I think. I'm just going to have to buy Windows 7 because I doubt there are any legit copies out there. I don't want to fry my SSD with some garbage copy.

Tell me what you guys think about this case. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 10, 2012 9:09:12 PM

COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper SGC-6000-KXN1-GP Black Steel, ABS Plastic, Mesh bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR

Corsair Carbide Series 500R Black Steel structure with molded ABS plastic accent pieces ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm definitely picking from these 2.

And i'm dropping the HDD and getting a bigger SSD instead.
Now I got to figure out which is the best. Anyone?
I guess a 128GB will do since i'm only going to have SWTOR, Guild Wars 2 and Windows 7 on it
,but if you guys reccomend a 256GB..
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September 10, 2012 9:36:21 PM

One more thing.. How will this 1680 resolution monitor do with the MSI 660ti I listed above. Do I need a DVI to HDMI Cord?
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September 10, 2012 10:35:18 PM

I'm picking from the top 5 on this benchmark. The Plextor M3 Pro is out of stock though. So either the Samsung, Intel, or one of the OCZ's.
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September 10, 2012 10:49:24 PM

ok then get the corsair 500R

for the ssd, go to B&H and get a samsung 830 128gb SSD for 96.48
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September 11, 2012 1:36:31 AM

Best answer selected by hmille0.
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September 11, 2012 5:49:42 AM

I run a very similiar build for SWTOR (i5-3570k, Asus P8Z77, GTX670) at 1980*1200 and I get 100+ frame/sec, looks great. Your build will be more than capable.
Only thing I would advise is consider a larger SSD if the budget can stretch. With Win7, SWTOR, various applications etc I am already 70% full on my 120gb SSD, and you want to put GW2 as well, which I think requires ~20gb from memory (can't check at work, silly firewalls)
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September 11, 2012 5:54:51 AM

TheBigTroll said:
if he says he is going to do some SLI in the future, then the 750w wont go to waste

He didn't say he is going to SLI in the future. 750W for futureproofing doesn't mean he's CF/SLIng.
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September 11, 2012 6:20:39 AM

Only thing i'm not to sure about besides that Oxidised, is if my monitor can support the gpu/mobo and which cords I need to buy. I have a HP w2207 22" Widescreen flat panel monitor (RK282AA) (1680x1050 @ 60Hz Max)

Video input connector: Digital (DVI-D with HDCP) and Analog (15-pin D-sub VGA)

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12142134-...

Here's my build again: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/65494-3-w2207-work-bu...

Oh and if the Asus 660 Ti OC would be better than the MSI 660 Ti OC. The Asus card only has 1 review on newegg,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
while the MSI card has 30 solid-good reviews.
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September 11, 2012 6:26:50 AM

Number of reviews don't matter. Newegg is not a quality place for reviews. Leave that to the professionals.
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September 11, 2012 6:28:13 AM

actually he can get that 750w psu for now he doesn't want to sli or do something wicked but later on he would want to do something awesome ^_^ or an upgrade or so

for case i do like the corsair one better, and it is an awesome case,

a 660ti at your resolution is great, since it can easily handle a 1920x1080 resolution like a cake in a walk park.

I suggest getting the msi 660ti (always liked msi) sadly i bought my asus gtx680 dcuii top when the msi lightning weren't available yet.

although for msi i only liked some motherboard and a lot of their cards. other stuff are pretty much crap for me(specially case) I'd s tick with corsair or cooler master but mostly corsair. and nzxt is also nice but corsair is still better IMO
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September 11, 2012 6:57:34 AM

Thought Asus is a better brand than MSI, but the boost clock and stock lock is better on the MSI..
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September 11, 2012 4:50:08 PM

660 Ti should be getting price drops in the next day or 2 I hear. I'm going to wait until then.
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September 11, 2012 4:55:19 PM

hmille0 said:
Thought Asus is a better brand than MSI, but the boost clock and stock lock is better on the MSI..


overall yes but then msi has a slightly better cooler, lower price, and its the only manufacturers that let their customers overvolt their cards
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September 11, 2012 8:06:50 PM

TheBigTroll said:
overall yes but then msi has a slightly better cooler, lower price, and its the only manufacturers that let their customers overvolt their cards


They are the same price = 310$

I might just roll with the ASUS.
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September 12, 2012 12:35:53 AM

id get msi still. overvolting is pretty good thing to have
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