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July 23, 2012 5:14:15 AM

Hello Everyone,

I have this question going all over my mind that - would a GTX 580 with 1.5 GB VRAM be enough for playing games at ultra settings at 1080p for another couple of years.

I am thinking of adding another 580 in SLI. Would it be worth it. I dont want to end up having a lack of VRAM for the upcoming games. I only play at 1080p but want to max out every setting. 4x AA would be fine though. I dont wish for 8xAA.

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a b U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 5:45:34 AM

You should be fine with today's games and most of the upcoming games. If you can, I would opt for this card instead, it has 2GB of VRAM and will run circles around the GTX 580. It's even faster than a reference GTX 680 out the box in most games. It's also much more energy efficient than the GTX 580 and produces less heat too. With 2GB of VRAM, you will be good to go for the next few years at 1080p.

EVGA GTX 670 FTW.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a c 147 U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 6:17:25 AM

did you already have the card? 1.5GB is quite plenty for majority of the games out there at 1080p. unless you're going for multi-monitor gaming or play a very few games than needs a lot of VRAM even at 1080p you should be fine with 1.5GB. if you still deciding on which card to get going for the GTX670 that EL Tigre link above will be a good choice as well
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a b U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 6:18:54 AM

Single monitor, non-SLI, 1.5gb is plenty. Ppl who worry abour lager frame buffer usually rin sli/crossfire rigs with multi monitor set ups.
a b U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 6:25:52 AM

I have a feeling that Unreal Engine 4 will use more than 1.5GB at 1080p. The demo looked sick, I can't wait for Watch Dogs.
a c 109 U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 6:28:07 AM

Killing Floor 2...
July 23, 2012 10:43:33 AM

renz496 said:
did you already have the card? 1.5GB is quite plenty for majority of the games out there at 1080p. unless you're going for multi-monitor gaming or play a very few games than needs a lot of VRAM even at 1080p you should be fine with 1.5GB. if you still deciding on which card to get going for the GTX670 that EL Tigre link above will be a good choice as well


I own a GTX 580. I bought it about 2 months ago. I will only be playing on a single monitor. So I guess 1.5GB will be fine right!!!!!!

and one more thing, I am running this card with a Phenom II x4 overclocked to 3.8Ghz. Will this CPU be able to handle the 580 without any bottlenecks or should I upgrade to a Sandybridge or the Ivybridge platform?
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 10:59:29 AM

irfan88 said:
I own a GTX 580. I bought it about 2 months ago. I will only be playing on a single monitor. So I guess 1.5GB will be fine right!!!!!!

and one more thing, I am running this card with a Phenom II x4 overclocked to 3.8Ghz. Will this CPU be able to handle the 580 without any bottlenecks or should I upgrade to a Sandybridge or the Ivybridge platform?
You should upgrade to a i5-2500k or i5-3570k get whatever is cheaper ;)  my friend had x2 MSI 580 in SLI and bottlenecks with his 965BE CPU OC @3.6GHZ
a c 147 U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 11:00:29 AM

first of all does your mobo support SLI? i think you will be fine with 2 GTX580 but for three even 4.0ghz phenom 2 will not be enough.
July 23, 2012 12:00:40 PM

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I run a EVGA GTX 580 SuperClocked 1.5GB @ 1080p and it handles all games and even plays the 'big games' smoothly.
Crysis2 DX11, BF3, RAGE, whatever.
I ran it with a Phenom II X4 975@ 4.2GHz for some time.
what's the rest of the unit specs.?
optimal RAM settings and SSD really help the Phenom II keep up.

I now run it with a 2500K and the difference is very noticeable.
but the GTX 580 itself, is still beastly and will be for another year or so.



Nothing special about the specs as of now:

Phenom II x4 955 3.8Ghz
Asus M4N75TD SLI motherboard
8GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Corsair XMS3 RAM Cas 9-9-9-24 1T I believe
500GB SATA HDD
Corsair TX 750V2 PSU

I guess I will keep the 580 and add another in SLI.

I will be upgrading the CPU and the motherboard to i5-2500k and an Asrock Z68 Motherboard. Will be adding an SSD as well
Should I change the RAM from XMS3 to Vengeance. Is there any difference between them considering performance wise?
Another question: I have a Corsair TX 750V2 PSU, will it be sufficient for a GTX 580 SLI setup. I will not be overclocking the GPU's but CPU will be overclocked ofcourse.



a b U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 12:13:36 PM

It's hard to say if 1.5 GB will be enough for Unreal Engine 4 games, we're already seeing games like skyrim and max payne hogging a lot of VRAM.

Worst case scenario you could drop your AA to x2 or use FXAA. Sli-ing to me looks like a good choice.
a c 143 U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 12:15:57 PM

1.5 GB of VRAM is a limit in some modern games like Max Payne 3, You won't be able to set MSAA to 8X, and some guys only enable 2X MSAA and FXAA to avoid performance issues when running 4X MSAA with those 1.5 GB of VRAM.

Keep running with a single GTX 580 and upgrade later to one of the GTX 7XXX family.
a b U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 12:16:34 PM

irfan88 said:

Should I change the RAM from XMS3 to Vengeance. Is there any difference between them considering performance wise?
Another question: I have a Corsair TX 750V2 PSU, will it be sufficient for a GTX 580 SLI setup. I will not be overclocking the GPU's but CPU will be overclocked ofcourse.


You wont see a difference in games with the faster RAM.

I would go for a 800-850 W PSU if you want to overclock.

Also, why not the 3570K? It's not that bad of an overclocker to warrant investing in old tech.
a b U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 12:28:52 PM

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I'm concerned about the close call power wise too, but my thing is to have a PSU with the necessary connections (pci-e plugs)
so I don't have to use a bunch of adapters..

'urbz' hates adapters.. :/ 


Get a modular PSU so, they nice.
July 23, 2012 12:29:08 PM

ilysaml said:
1.5 GB of VRAM is a limit in some modern games like Max Payne 3, You won't be able to set MSAA to 8X, and some guys only enable 2X MSAA and FXAA to avoid performance issues when running 4X MSAA with those 1.5 GB of VRAM.

Keep running with a single GTX 580 and upgrade later to one of the GTX 7XXX family.


Well I guess, I will stick with my single 580 for now and then upgrade to one of the GTX 7XXX series cards. Its better to skip the 670 and the 680. Not much of a performance gain from a 580. However, 690 would be in a different league all together.

I will upgrade to a 2500k or a 3570k and an Asrock motherboard and keep my TX 750 V2 PSU as its just 2 months old. I kind of suspect that even if I SLI the 7XXX series cards, I wont be needing a beefier PSU.

Well, the only question that comes to my mind is the difference between an XMS3 and the Vengeance Memory!!! Strange I find no difference apart from the volts that they work with.
July 23, 2012 12:34:58 PM

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since you already have the XMS3 (1600MHz.?) if so then just keep it and set it to specs (XMP).
XMP is an Intel thing but you can manually set in BIOS on AMD.


Now how do I do that? Any advise?
July 23, 2012 12:41:22 PM

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download and run CPU-Z then go to the 'memory' tab, in that section you verify what you running now.
then select the 'SPD' tab, this is your 'specs' settings for your RAM.
XMP-1600, jot those settings down on paper or something.
then go into BIOS and manually set.

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/Untitled-37.png


I have every setting setup similar to the XMP profile. However, the Command Rate is set to 1T. Should I set it to 2T. which one would be better ?
July 23, 2012 12:45:28 PM

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what does the XMP in YOUR CPU-Z say, 1T or 2T.?


Under XMP profile it says 2T but on my RAM details on CPUZ it says I am running at 1T.

July 23, 2012 12:49:47 PM

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change it and try.
if anything it will not boot or BSOD and you can go switch it back.


what is the difference between them? Any performance gain or what?
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 12:53:51 PM

A 580 is still a beast of a GPU i wouldn't recommend upgrading it just yet give it another year then upgrade it
a b U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 12:54:25 PM

Is 1T not prefered to 2T I though? Less latency?
a c 143 U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 12:55:07 PM

1T is better than 2T, however, it won't make any difference in real world performance.
XMS3 or Vengeance or whatever, just pick the low latency RAM with the low voltage, and since there are no true CL7 or CL8 RAM around just go with any Low Voltage CL9 RAM, I personally prefer G.Skill over anything else for reliability.

You should be fine running even 2 GTX 580s with that PSU, but unfortunately you won't have a headroom for overclocking, all the upcoming video cards will be based on lower nm technology which improves power consumption savings, so you can go SLI/CF with any very high end card from the upcoming series.
a c 143 U Graphics card
July 23, 2012 12:59:24 PM

@Ifran
Look at Toms benches regarding the RAM frequency and latencies, all just differs 1 to 2 seconds which you won't feel it. The noticeable gain should be acquired from the upcoming DDR4 memory.
July 23, 2012 1:03:05 PM

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Not entirely correct Ilysaml.

The next GPU's from AMD or Nvidia could be hot and very power hungry...

Smaller die does not always mean a lower power figure... see GTX 480 for reference.


But I thought newer graphics cards require less power. See for example 2 670's require only 700 watts of power supply according to Guru3D. 670 beats a 580 right. So If I keep the 580 for another year and then upgrade to something from the upcoming 7XXX series and then add another in SLI, I should be able to get off with a 750 watts PSU right.
July 23, 2012 1:14:51 PM

I guess no one can predict until the new cards come out. He he he. All one can do is wait...
November 10, 2012 11:33:13 PM

irfan88 said:
Hello Everyone,

I have this question going all over my mind that - would a GTX 580 with 1.5 GB VRAM be enough for playing games at ultra settings at 1080p for another couple of years.

I am thinking of adding another 580 in SLI. Would it be worth it. I dont want to end up having a lack of VRAM for the upcoming games. I only play at 1080p but want to max out every setting. 4x AA would be fine though. I dont wish for 8xAA.



Dont make the same mistake that I did, I have 2 5870's at 512 vram each....first one bought brand new 400.00 dollars, second one used 200.00 cant play battlefield maxed out(only on multiplayer)....sucks, im planning to buy the 7970 3gb vram then buy a used one 2 years later at another 3 gb vram ...i will never make the vram mistake again....
November 11, 2012 7:10:36 AM

antonsoukhan said:
Dont make the same mistake that I did, I have 2 5870's at 512 vram each....first one bought brand new 400.00 dollars, second one used 200.00 cant play battlefield maxed out(only on multiplayer)....sucks, im planning to buy the 7970 3gb vram then buy a used one 2 years later at another 3 gb vram ...i will never make the vram mistake again....



You're late my frend. This thread is too old. Anyways, I sold my 580 and bought myself a Zotac GTX 670 2GB OC card. Very happy with the purchase. Plays all the games maxed out.
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