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a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 8:39:25 AM

Hi folks,

Trying to decide which Gtx 570 to go for out of these 3:

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1280mb-pny-gtx-570-40nm-...

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1280mb-evga-gtx-570-hd-d...

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1280mb-gigabyte-gtx-570-...

I suppose its really between the EVGA and the Gigabyte. I know the Gigabyte is OC'd but the cooler on the EVGA looks fairly decent and would expect to get a decent OC with it, any info would be great though?

Also if anyone knows of any other versions or even any other card that would be better to spend my money on let me know provided its less than £200.

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a c 99 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 8:50:01 AM

The overclock on the Gigabyte won't make much of a difference. I suggest going with the EVGA.
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 9:00:10 AM

Thanks, kind of the answer I was hoping for. looks like a decent card. Another bonus for me is that it has a full sized HDMI port.

Havent been able to find any video reviews online for that cooler design. Anybody any idea of the temps?
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a c 185 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 9:05:29 AM

The Asus one and MSI are the best 570 IMO the rest it's a flip of a coin i would get the EVGA out those three
a c 99 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 9:07:30 AM

From reading from what others had regarding the EVGA version is that it runs a little less hot than the regular reference design (1 fan). If you also have a case with sufficient airflow and fans that move air good, then it's not a problem.

If heat is a concern for you, the Gigabyte's cooler design is good.
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 9:23:00 AM

Heat shouldnt be too much of an issue, Its going to be part of a new build in two stages.

Just going with storm enforcer, Asrock Extreme4, 2600k, tx850m.

Then next month aim to water cool the CPU and graphics. Going to mod the HD enclosure to fit a 200mm rad at the front.... a 240 at the top then a 120mm mounted flush externally at the back with scythe slip streams, also aim to get another 570. Do you reckon ill run into any problems getting a waterblock for this card as it isnt a reference design pcb?
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 9:31:56 AM

Yea I would usually go with msi but these days the 570 and 580 are pretty close price wise and unfortunately that price is out of my budget. Pretty much the same for Asus
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 10:43:00 AM

Yea just found the waterblocks for HD version. Think ill go for this card, seems to tick all the boxes for me.

Thanks for all the info guys, its been a real help.

Buying graphics cards is always a pain in the ass. Gonna order this up now. Cheers
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 11:00:24 AM

lol
a c 143 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 11:05:45 AM

Quote:
Eh?

Who called for your illinformed mind?

570 is really expensive at that price... when a 480 is at £161...
I will wait for you to post everything on earth that is bad about the 480 now...
LOL

A price point of view, you fight against capitalism?
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 11:41:31 AM

THIS IS BETTER THAN THE GTX 570 AND GTX 480 WHEN OC'ED AND CONSUMES HALF THE POWER
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:02:02 PM

Ok havent bought anything yet, was very close though, was just about to. Im interested as to why its better? Not doubting anyone but at stock speeds benchmarks seem to favour the 570?
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:06:43 PM

panwala95 said:
THIS IS BETTER THAN THE GTX 570 AND GTX 480 WHEN OC'ED AND CONSUMES HALF THE POWER

what is.?
(mentioning of a Radeon GPU I guess..)
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:11:42 PM

I should probably elaborate... I understand that if I overclock the 480 i will get better performance.... but would i not get better performance again if I overclocked the 570?

Power consumption isn't really a massive concern to me and the price difference isn't that great considering I get borderlands 2 free (which I probably would have bought anyway) saving me £20 -£30. Less important factors are the full sized HDMI port and the general look of the cooler on that 570 even though ill be looking to get rid of it as quick as possible.
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:12:03 PM

panwala95 said:
THIS IS BETTER THAN THE GTX 570 AND GTX 480 WHEN OC'ED AND CONSUMES HALF THE POWER
what is? If you mean 7850 think again both 570 and 480 are faster even when OC
July 24, 2012 12:14:27 PM

panwala95 said:
THIS IS BETTER THAN THE GTX 570 AND GTX 480 WHEN OC'ED AND CONSUMES HALF THE POWER

id assume that hes talking about the 6770 or whatever it was in his description. but screw that, get nvidia. the physx more than makes up for the increased cost.
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:15:14 PM

paddys09 said:
I should probably elaborate... I understand that if I overclock the 480 i will get better performance.... but would i not get better performance again if I overclocked the 570?

Power consumption isn't really a massive concern to me and the price difference isn't that great considering I get borderlands 2 free (which I probably would have bought anyway) saving me £20 -£30. Less important factors are the full sized HDMI port and the general look of the cooler on that 570 even though ill be looking to get rid of it as quick as possible.

just stay away from the GTX 480.....
if you have no choice then to be honest I'd take a GTX 560 Ti OC's or even a GTX 560-Ti 448 over the GTX 480.
(I run SLi N560GTX-Ti Hawks (TF III) for example).

that HOG of a GPU (GTX 480) just isn't for me.
I ran a N570GTX TF III as I upgraded that unit from SLi N460GTX Hawks had a chance for a GTX 480 and spent the extra dollar for the GTX 570.
and that unit now has settled with a GTX 580 SOC (EVGA).
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:15:55 PM

I have no problem with Amd cards but I have to go with Nvidia this time due to how great they work with Adobe cs6
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:19:05 PM

The 560ti twin frozr or hawk was my initial choice. Ahhh why is choosing graphics cards so difficult. Its just too competitive.
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:19:48 PM

Quote:
Not a massive difference though...

Even the 580 pulls the same wattage if that supid throttling was taken away from it.. (Nvidia trying to make a more efficient card)

overclocking can put all those cards in the same range.....
of course one will be better than the other but all can go.
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:22:07 PM

I still can't get over the 480 is two years old and smokes ATI fan boys precious R7850 HAHAHA
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:23:56 PM

bigcyco1 said:
I still can't get over the 480 is two years old and smokes ATI fan boys precious R7850 HAHAHA

shh.
your going to get a few people flamed....!
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:24:13 PM

o.k. i apologize that was mean
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:24:16 PM

Well the plan is to have it all fairly decently watercooled, check one of my previous posts. Upping the voltage a bit should be fine. Tbh I think theyre all pretty good and im gonna be satisfied either way. Its just too close to call
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:25:17 PM

I got a post for you from another thread, hold on....

edit:
here it is from the GURU 'matto17secs'
direct from him.

17seconds said:
When I owned my GTX 480, I remember that sound was noticeable, but not as bad as the reviews made it seem to be. My case does not have very good airflow, so yours should be better. With that said, I didn't hesitate to get the GTX 580 when it came out just so I could have a quieter card. The GTX 480 is the loudest Nvidia card out there; it's noticeable.
http://www.guru3d.com/news/geforce-gtx-480-noise-levels...
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18774

I would strongly suggest considering if you can pony up another $30-$50 for a GTX 570, which in essence would be the same as getting a GTX 480 with an aftermarket cooler; quieter and cooler, but with essentially the same performance (actually slightly better ~1%).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If not that, then you could consider a high-end, custom, factory overclocked GTX 560 Ti or a GTX 560 Ti 448 cores. The performance will be a bit less, but you can overclock to get back most, if not all, of the performance and still have a quiet card that will eat up all your games.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

In the end, if you decide that $200 is your limit and you don't want to downgrade to a GTX 560 Ti, then the GTX 480 is a great performer and a good value. Just keep it cool with a case fan, change the thermal paste, and upgrade to an aftermarket cooler when you get the chance.
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:25:26 PM

:lol: 
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:31:02 PM

Ahhhh stop it lol. I just don't know anymore..... I might just buy an xbox.........
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:32:56 PM

paddys09 said:
Ahhhh stop it lol. I just don't know anymore..... I might just buy an xbox.........
:lol:  just get what you want don't worry about it ;) 
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:37:16 PM

haha ok I think Ive made my decision. Its not going to please anyone, but I think im gonna stick with it and go for the 570. As its so close, the thing that actually is swaying me more than anything, and no one laugh, its the full sized HDMI port. With decent cooling they all have great potential.
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:38:22 PM

paddys09 said:
haha ok I think Ive made my decision. Its not going to please anyone, but I think im gonna stick with it and go for the 570. As its so close, the thing that actually is swaying me more than anything, and no one laugh, its the full sized HDMI port. With decent cooling they all have great potential.

whatever works for you.... :) 
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:42:25 PM

Thanks guys :)  just looking forward to the build now. All the help has been much appreciated.
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:46:02 PM

ilysaml said:
A price point of view, you fight against capitalism?

fights against fanboism and Radeon.....
:lol: 
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 12:46:33 PM

No problem your very welcome!
a c 143 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 3:32:18 PM

paddys09 said:
I have no problem with Amd cards but I have to go with Nvidia this time due to how great they work with Adobe cs6

Haven't you heard of AMD collaboration with Adobe, full utilization of Open CL & Open GL. AMD newer cards have better DirectCompute than all nVidia GTX 7xx series. Some Particular Adobe applications benefit only from CUDA.
http://blogs.amd.com/fusion/2012/04/24/adobe-and-amd-en...
a c 143 U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 3:34:13 PM

verbalizer said:
fights against fanboism and Radeon.....
:lol: 

Mate, I have no offense to you, and I didn't even recommend a Radeon Card in the thread, and I was just going to pick a GTX 570 to help the OP. Why are you being Jealous?
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 3:38:34 PM

ilysaml said:
Mate, I have no offense to you, and I didn't even recommend a Radeon Card in the thread, and I was just going to pick a GTX 570 to help the OP. Why are you being Jealous?

doesn't matter the situation, it was funny... :p 
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 11:33:04 PM

ilysaml said:
Haven't you heard of AMD collaboration with Adobe, full utilization of Open CL & Open GL. AMD newer cards have better DirectCompute than all nVidia GTX 7xx series. Some Particular Adobe applications benefit only from CUDA.
http://blogs.amd.com/fusion/2012/04/24/adobe-and-amd-en...


:lol:  My threads on fire, just kidding! Yes im aware that AMD supports CUDA through Open CL, thanks for the read though.

Most of the applications that I use Im pretty happy with, though when it came to speedgrade, the AMD card just didnt like it, produced some strange effects while rendering, its too good a program to waste.

Maybe the newer AMD cards work better with it, I honestly don't know, not going to take the risk and just going to stick with the company that started it in the first place and I am unable to get a GTX 7xx as I live in the present.

If the Adobe stuff was my only focus it would have been a debate between Quadro or Fire. I want a machine that is best suited to my needs at present and Nvidia won this time, factoring in the games I play etc.

Useful info all the same, Thanks! :D 
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 11:47:19 PM

paddys09 said:
:lol:  My threads on fire, just kidding! Yes im aware that AMD supports CUDA through Open CL, thanks for the read though.

Most of the applications that I use Im pretty happy with, though when it came to speedgrade, the AMD card just didnt like it, produced some strange effects while rendering, its too good a program to waste.

Maybe the newer AMD cards work better with it, I honestly don't know, not going to take the risk and just going to stick with the company that started it in the first place and I am unable to get a GTX 7xx as I live in the present.

If the Adobe stuff was my only focus it would have been a debate between Quadro or Fire. I want a machine that is best suited to my needs at present and Nvidia won this time, factoring in the games I play etc.

Useful info all the same, Thanks! :D 

you thought so.?
really.
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2012 11:59:24 PM

I was being polite :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 12:01:22 AM

kudos for the effort...
:lol: 
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 12:07:21 AM

I try....haha
a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 11:17:41 PM

Quick Update, hate it when a thread dies off and you don't hear the result.

The EVGA card arrived, running it in my old machine until case and mobo/cpu arrive.

Was a tiny bit worried when I saw the odd review of people getting temps in the high 90's but went ahead anyway.

Im glad I did... great card, the cooler itself is comparable to a reference in terms of temps in the early 70's at load. Its not quiet but the fan sound is nice, if you know what i mean.

Thought I'd do a bit of overclocking just to gauge its performance, Managed to get 900 on the core 1800 on the shader and 2000 on the memory @ 1.05V.

Hit 80c after a couple of mins of furmark then levelled out between 80-83c for the next 20 mins. Gamed or a couple of hours on it and everything stable.

So all in all really pleased, temps aren't amazing, but they're pretty good at the price I paid. Looking forward to getting it on water.

Thanks again everyone.

a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 11:19:32 PM

so update us on the system specs again since this is the second page...
a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 11:49:17 PM

At the minute its in my old system which is in need of updating hence the recent purchases:

Phenom 955be @ 3.6ghz (didnt want to go any higher cos of the mobo)
Biostar A880G+
8Gb Corsair Vengance
and the case is pretty bad mATX

New system will be (at the end of next week)

i7 2600k
Asrock Extreme4 z77
CM storm enforcer
Probably double the memory up too as I do a bit of video editing.

a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 11:51:09 PM

Then beyond that I plan to get another 570 and water cool the CPU and graphics cards.
!