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Upgrading from HD6530D - $100-150 Budget

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July 25, 2012 12:03:44 AM

Hi all.

I'm looking to upgrade the GPU in my desktop.

Desktop Specs:
Acer Aspire AM3470G-UW10P
AMD A6-3620 2.2GHz Quad-Core CPU
Integrated Radeon HD 6530D 1GB
4GB RAM
500GB HDD
300w PSU (Will need to open case to see make and model)


Obviously the 300w PSU is going to pose a problem, but unfortunately so does my budget. I've sold a lot of old games on eBay, and it looks like I'll pull in about $100-$120 after funds clear. This is all going towards my budget. My wife MIGHT let me throw in an extra $30 or so, but I'm not certain. So I'm working on a budget of $100-150.

My goal is to get the best value to cost ratio possible. I've been looking at a few cards, and would love opinions and other suggestions. Also, please factor in that the cost of a PSU will have to be included on any suggestions of cards rated above 300w. I'll be glad to take any suggestions.

The main game I'm trying to max is Skyrim. I have my PC hooked up to my 32" 720p LCD TV via HDMI, so I suppose I'll be doing the majority of my gaming at 1024x720 or whatever rez that is. (New to this upgrading PC deal.) I won't mind a GPU that can do more than just max Skyrim either if cost allows. And if maxing Skyrim is impossible on my budget, I'd like to get as close as possible.

The few cards I've looked at are the GT 440 (which will run on a 300w), the GTS 450, and the Radeon HD 6670 (the latter two will require PSU upgrade).

Any opinions/suggestions on a GPU and/or PSU to get me what I need?
July 25, 2012 12:09:47 AM

On that kind of a budget (both power and money) I would recommend the Radeon HD 7750, it uses very little power but is also very close to the Radeon HD 6770 in performance which will allow you to play anything out there really well. I think you can get one for around $110 - 120.
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July 25, 2012 12:16:47 AM

if you really want to push stuff, you can buy the corsair cx 500w with the 15% off code(total should be near 51$) and when you receive it, you can plug it in for now, and turn in the 10$ mail in rebate when you are content with the psu not being DOA. at that point, you can look for a gtx 460, HD 6850/7770 or higher if your budget suddenly increases at that point.(or you can buy a used card online for less)
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July 25, 2012 12:23:18 AM

Buy a radeon 7770, I just ordered one earlier today, they do well for the price, take very little power (important in your case), and most importantly for me, they are very small (my board is old, and I didn't want one that would cover SATA ports). I looked at everything for about the same price as you.

Heres the one I ordered: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
it's very small because it doesn't do crossfire, I wouldn't want to crossfire 128bit cards any way.
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July 25, 2012 12:38:58 AM

You couldn't run a Radeon 7770 on a 300w PSU safely, especially an OEM PSU that probably can't break 250w even if it says 300w on the label. Any upgrade at all would need a quality and higher wattage PSU. dudewitbow's recommendation is probably the best course of action, granted a 400w Corsair PSU should be enough for a Radeon 7770 or a Radeon 7750. A 550w would be overkill unless you plan on Crossfire, but your CPU/APU could then be a severe bottle-neck.
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July 25, 2012 1:00:33 AM

mace200200 said:
Buy a radeon 7770, I just ordered one earlier today, they do well for the price, take very little power (important in your case), and most importantly for me, they are very small (my board is old, and I didn't want one that would cover SATA ports). I looked at everything for about the same price as you.

Heres the one I ordered: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
it's very small because it doesn't do crossfire, I wouldn't want to crossfire 128bit cards any way.


What's wrong with CF on 128 bit cards? It wouldn't be any more memory bandwidth limited than a single card with a 128 bit memory interface is unless you increase both the resolution and the AA/AF.
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July 25, 2012 1:08:07 AM

What would you think about a Radeon HD 7750 + a PSU for lower than $150? I found a $90 HD 7750 on newegg. What's the best PSU to pair with it for around $50? Thanks for the help so far!
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July 25, 2012 1:09:52 AM

ddmdandaman said:
What would you think about a Radeon HD 7750 + a PSU for lower than $150? I found a $90 HD 7750 on newegg. What's the best PSU to pair with it for around $50? Thanks for the help so far!

the 7750 is a low power consumer, if you went that route, there's a decent chance you wouldn't need to change psu at all, but that is as far as you can go without changing it.
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July 25, 2012 1:21:30 AM

dudewitbow said:
the 7750 is a low power consumer, if you went that route, there's a decent chance you wouldn't need to change psu at all, but that is as far as you can go without changing it.


That PSU has got to go, even with the 7750. If it wasn't a mere OEM PSU, then it would be considerable with the 7750, but still a risk. However, with it being an OEM PSU, I can't even remotely recommend using a 7750 with it. It's not a good idea.
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July 25, 2012 1:23:45 AM

ddmdandaman said:
What would you think about a Radeon HD 7750 + a PSU for lower than $150? I found a $90 HD 7750 on newegg. What's the best PSU to pair with it for around $50? Thanks for the help so far!


This PSU is ideal and is well within your budget.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 25, 2012 1:44:57 AM

Thanks for the input guys. It looks like Radeon HD 7750 and a Corsair PSU will be the route I go. Now to wait on the funds to become available. :p 
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July 25, 2012 1:46:55 AM

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July 25, 2012 1:47:24 AM

Glad to help.
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July 25, 2012 1:59:03 AM

Dudewitbow has the correct answer - well, one of them anyway.
Step 1: PSU - $51 for a 500 watt corsair is a very good call.
Step 2: 6850. Newegg has multiple 6850 for $135
Amazon has a Saphire 6850 for $120 after rebate
That's $171 after rebates. I know that's $21 over, but kiss your wife or don't drink a couple of beers at a bar or ... well you get the point.

Step 1&2 will yeild a quality solution you will be happy with. You can get a cheaper solution - but not a better one.

I'm cheap & that's what I'd do. Also since you don't have a lot of money - use your time wisely and internet shop at Newegg, Amazon, Microcenter, Best buy ... if you're not pressed for time the HD 6850 will come down over time and there will be rebates and specials at different locations.

Good Luck !!
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July 25, 2012 7:30:23 AM

odiervr said:
Dudewitbow has the correct answer - well, one of them anyway.
Step 1: PSU - $51 for a 500 watt corsair is a very good call.
Step 2: 6850. Newegg has multiple 6850 for $135
Amazon has a Saphire 6850 for $120 after rebate
That's $171 after rebates. I know that's $21 over, but kiss your wife or don't drink a couple of beers at a bar or ... well you get the point.

Step 1&2 will yeild a quality solution you will be happy with. You can get a cheaper solution - but not a better one.

I'm cheap & that's what I'd do. Also since you don't have a lot of money - use your time wisely and internet shop at Newegg, Amazon, Microcenter, Best buy ... if you're not pressed for time the HD 6850 will come down over time and there will be rebates and specials at different locations.

Good Luck !!


Or, if we really want to do it this way, $35 for a Corsair 430w and $100-$120 for a Radeon 7770 that is significantly better than a Radeon 6850 in power consumption and somewhat better with price and performance with the latest drivers, especially when overclocking is considered. Or, instead of the 7770, we stick with the 7750 that is already adequate for OP. Regardless, the 6850 is a poor choice considering the superior options.
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July 25, 2012 7:36:16 AM

blazorthon said:
Or, if we really want to do it this way, $35 for a Corsair 430w and $100-$120 for a Radeon 7770 that is significantly better than a Radeon 6850 in power consumption and somewhat better with price and performance with the latest drivers, especially when overclocking is considered. Or, instead of the 7770, we stick with the 7750 that is already adequate for OP. Regardless, the 6850 is a poor choice considering the superior options.


that's actually false, the 7770 is stuck on a 128 bit memory interface while the 6850 has a 256 memory interface which will greatly affect performance(and is why the 6850 is better than the 7770 albeit the 6850 consumes more power and is hotter)
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July 25, 2012 7:43:19 AM

did i read right ? you have an A-6 system ?................ should have purchased a card to crossfire with the graphics on your processor. ( ever read ? or inform yourself before buying anything ? ) can't believe nobody that read or replied caught this.
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July 25, 2012 7:43:35 AM

dudewitbow said:
that's actually false, the 7770 is stuck on a 128 bit memory interface while the 6850 has a 256 memory interface which will greatly affect performance(and is why the 6850 is better than the 7770 albeit the 6850 consumes more power and is hotter)


Actually, it's not false. The 7770 is not a very memory bandwidth bottle-necked card despite its smaller interface. A 256 bit interface is sufficient for GPUs that are over 50% faster, so the 7770 makes due with higher frequency memory on a 128 bit interface just fine. It beats the 6850, especially the factory overclocked Radeon 7770s, quite well with the latest drivers.

The best factory overclocked 7770s can beat the 6870 in most, if not all games, at least in most settings and resolutions. Very high resolutions and AA might be able to turn that around, but the GPUs would probably become a bottle-neck before the memory ever could. These aren't very high end cards and they don't need very high end memory interfaces.
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July 25, 2012 7:47:07 AM

swifty_morgan said:
did i read right ? you have an A-6 system ?................ should have purchased a card to crossfire with the graphics on your processor. ( ever read ? or inform yourself before buying anything ? ) can't believe nobody that read or replied caught this.


A 7750 is faster than a Trinity A10 CFed with a Radeon 6670. An A6 with a 6670 (the best that it can CF with) wouldn't even come close to a 7750 despite using far more power. We would have recommended it if it mattered.
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July 25, 2012 7:53:02 AM

blazorthon said:
Actually, it's not false. The 7770 is not a very memory bandwidth bottle-necked card despite its smaller interface. A 256 bit interface is sufficient for GPUs that are over 50% faster, so the 7770 makes due with higher frequency memory on a 128 bit interface just fine. It beats the 6850, especially the factory overclocked Radeon 7770s, quite well with the latest drivers.

The best factory overclocked 7770s can beat the 6870 in most, if not all games, at least in most settings and resolutions. Very high resolutions and AA might be able to turn that around, but the GPUs would probably become a bottle-neck before the memory ever could. These aren't very high end cards and they don't need very high end memory interfaces.



I totally want to see benchmarks for this, toms itself has the 7770 a tier below the 6850, anandtechs old benches have the 6850 performing better than the 7770. though the performance difference is small, its still there. Mentioning the use of overclock is a different story, as we don't even know the OP wants to overclock as of yet. Especially since hes asking for card sugesstions, his knowlege in gpus is probably more limited most likely leaving overclocking out of the question.
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July 25, 2012 7:54:25 AM

blazorthon said:
A 7750 is faster than a Trinity A10 CFed with a Radeon 6670. An A6 with a 6670 (the best that it can CF with) wouldn't even come close to a 7750 despite using far more power. We would have recommended it if it mattered.


dudewitbow said:
I totally want to see benchmarks for this, toms itself has the 7770 a tier below the 6850, anandtechs old benches have the 6850 performing better than the 7770. though the performance difference is small, its still there. Mentioning the use of overclock is a different story, as we don't even know the OP wants to overclock as of yet. Especially since hes asking for card sugesstions, his knowlege in gpus is probably more limited most likely leaving overclocking out of the question.


Well, with the newest drivers, the stock 7770 beats a stock 6850. The new drivers make a fairly significant performance difference. Catalyst 12.7 to be exact. I simply included OCing potential to be sure that I'm not leaving out something so important, even if OP decides not to do it. I'll see if I can find some benches, but the 7770 isn't really a hot item for testing with new drivers ASAP on most sites so it might not be easy to find benches of this if there even are any on the web right now. I'll post again after I've had some sleep and checked for a few minutes and see if I can come up with more conclusive proof for you.
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April 16, 2013 10:12:43 AM

Which of the cards are the right one in the 7750, DDR3 Or DDR5?
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