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July 25, 2012 4:15:44 AM

Hello Guys,

I managed to sell my GTX 580 1.5GB for $327. I have four offers right now.

1. MSI HD 5970 reference 2GB card for $218 (used)
2. MSI HD 6970 reference 2GB for $270 (used)
3. Sapphire HD 7850 for $245 (new)
4. Sapphire HD 7870 for $340 (new)

Which one of these should I get. I have a 750 TX V2 Power supply. The deal on the 5970 looks good I believe. almost performs equally to a 7950. What do you guys think?

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July 25, 2012 4:33:06 AM

You know the 5970 isn't a 2 GB card, right?
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 4:34:27 AM

Why did you sell your GTX 580?
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July 25, 2012 4:37:34 AM

Ironslice said:
Why did you sell your GTX 580?



Got a good offer that's why I sold it. Palit sucks with customer service as well. I can hardly find any service centre's in India.

and the 5970 is a 2GB card which the seller has. Let me know if it would be a wise decision to get the card or should I hop on to a 6970, 7850 , 7870. If I get a 3GB GTX 580 I would take it but I cant find it in India. THat's the problem.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 4:42:19 AM

All of the cards you listed above perform very similarly, albeit less than the 580. The 7000 series however, overclock much better and consume much less power. When you overclock the 7850, it may be able to reach 580 performance. The 7870 is the only one that can catch up to 580 performance easily. It's up to you if you think it's worth the money. I would go with the 7870.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 4:49:35 AM

Have you considered a GTX 670? That would be a worthwhile upgrade and it uses as much energy as a GTX 560 Ti, so it's lighter on your PSU.
July 25, 2012 4:55:05 AM

amuffin said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU11/188

A 5970 would be a complete downgrade from a 580.


I thought that the 5970 2GB was atleast as fast as the 580. Ok here's another thing, I have got another offer for the XFX 6970 with 2 years of warranty still left on the card. Its only $200. So I can spend another 200 to 250 for crossfire,

The 670 costs $450 in my country minimum. What do you think
a c 198 U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 5:02:42 AM

I would have personally kept the 580. Its faster than all the cards you listed. I guess if you dont have it anymore you may as well go for the 7850.

5970's have microstutter and other Crossfire issues. Its also not the most energy efficient thing compared to the 670.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 5:02:45 AM

Having a single powerful GPU such as the GTX 670 would be a better upgrade because it will produce less heat and use much less energy those 2 6970's in CF. You can always add another one down the road. The EVGA GTX 670 FTW is more powerful than even a reference GTX 680 and beats it in most games for $100 cheaper too. That's the best bang for your buck card at that price point.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/40613-evga-gefor...
a c 110 U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 5:06:44 AM

You said you're in India?

XFX's warranty is useless.
July 25, 2012 5:29:48 AM

amuffin said:
You said you're in India?

XFX's warranty is useless.


Damn....

Now I think I might hunt down two 7850's then. One now and another later. Or even GTX 580 2.5GB versions if I get them or even GTX 580 3GB variants. I was happy with the 580 but just looking for the magical 3GB memory. :pt1cable: 
July 25, 2012 6:32:08 AM

amuffin said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU11/188

A 5970 would be a complete downgrade from a 580.


The 5970 is not that type of downgrade. The 5970 and the 580 mostly trade blows, withthe 5970 coming out on top more often.

But the 5970 is a 1 GB per GPU card.
July 25, 2012 6:36:43 AM

Ananan said:
The 5970 is not that type of downgrade. The 5970 and the 580 mostly trade blows, withthe 5970 coming out on top more often.

But the 5970 is a 1 GB per GPU card.



but the one that he has is a 2GB version. MSI. here this is the one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
July 25, 2012 6:40:14 AM

Am I reading it wrong?

That's a 2 GB total card, isn't it? Not for each GPU.
July 25, 2012 7:02:03 AM

Ananan said:
Am I reading it wrong?

That's a 2 GB total card, isn't it? Not for each GPU.



yes its a 2GB card. So what should I get, 5970 for 218$ , 6970 for 200$ or MSI twin frozr for 320$. If I get a 6970 then I will add another one in crossfire. I can also get a 7850 for 240$.

What is it then?
July 25, 2012 7:31:28 AM

What do you want to play, and at what res do you game?

I'm still not ready to upgrade my 5970. It does what I want it to.
July 25, 2012 7:34:29 AM

Ananan said:
What do you want to play, and at what res do you game?

I'm still not ready to upgrade my 5970. It does what I want it to.


DO you have the 1GB or the 2GB card. I play at 1080p. mainly all the popular ones that come out.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 12:45:18 PM

irfan88 said:
yes its a 2GB card. So what should I get, 5970 for 218$ , 6970 for 200$ or MSI twin frozr for 320$. If I get a 6970 then I will add another one in crossfire. I can also get a 7850 for 240$.

What is it then?


The 5970 for $200 is a good deal. Soon you'll have people recommending the GTX 480 in all it's beautiful glory for $200.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 1:31:18 PM

Just to clarify, a 5970 is always a 2GB card but there is only 1GB available per GPU. Since each GPU must be synched to the other GPU, you really only have 1GB of VRAM available.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 1:47:00 PM

Quote:
Sold your 580.... Derp!
From here it is all sidegrades...

That 580 could have caught up with a 7950 if you overclocked it...

I have to agree on this one.....
had a perfectly good working GTX 580 even if it is Palit, it's a good working GTX 580.

dumb move..
and take the 'nVidia rocks' off your account..
:p 
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 2:00:10 PM

The HD 5970 in my opinion the best card you can get from all those.And its also the cheapest.

There is one thing you have to consider though.If you're going to play "big" titles like Battlefield 3 then expect great Crossfire scaling and therefore great performance.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
It even outperforms a GTX 590!

In other titles however crossfire will not scale very well and it will perform only as well as your previous GTX 580
http://www.behardware.com/articles/826-3/crysis-2-perfo...

According to this review however the HD 5970 is on avarage as fast as a GTX 580
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_6...
It is however faster on higher resolutions.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 2:01:56 PM

Kamen_BG said:
The HD 5970 in my opinion the best card you can get from all those.And its also the cheapest.

There is one thing you have to consider though.If you're going to play "big" titles like Battlefield 3 then expect great Crossfire scaling and therefore great performance.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
It even outperforms a GTX 590!

In other titles however crossfire will not scale very well and it will perform only as well as your previous GTX 580
http://www.behardware.com/articles/826-3/crysis-2-perfo...

According to this review however the HD 5970 is on avarage as fast as a GTX 580
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_6...
It is however faster on higher resolutions.

WTH...
it does not outperform the GTX 590 IN ANYTHING....

read that article again..
someone needs to restrict your keyboard access..
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 2:29:32 PM

Being specific, Tom's tests the 5970 did outperform the GTX 590 (below) and the the GTX 580 was non-competitive with it... note that the the tests were done on Oct. of last year and it is single-player which is good because it is GPU bound.

Would I consider a 5970 over a 590? No, But this isn't the issue here.



For $200 the 5970 is a good buy... sold the 580 for $327 so that would leave him $109 after purchase of the 5970. He could buy a nice 120GB SSD with that. That would be a upgrade in my book.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 2:32:18 PM

I stand corrected by the charts.....
(still have a hard time with it though, someone send me a GTX 590 and HD 5970 so I can test for myself, don't worry I'll send them back to you..)
:lol: 
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 2:48:15 PM

verbalizer said:
I stand corrected by the charts.....
(still have a hard time with it though, someone send me a GTX 590 and HD 5970 so I can test for myself, don't worry I'll send them back to you..)
:lol: 


In no way, shape or form would I take a 5970 over a 590. And I wasn't trying to prove anyone wrong. I apologize if it came off like that, I was just being specific.

The 5970 is an upgrade over a 580 albeit, a small one.

http://www.hwcompare.com/9401/geforce-gtx-580-3gb-vs-ra...

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/11/14/geforce_gtx_5...

http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/

a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 2:49:50 PM

I didn't take offense and I actually learned something.
but like you, GTX 590 before I go HD 5970...

:D 
July 25, 2012 3:00:53 PM

verbalizer said:
WTH...
it does not outperform the GTX 590 IN ANYTHING....

read that article again..
someone needs to restrict your keyboard access..


Malmentaaaal long time buddy.

Well said
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 3:01:46 PM

Aside from the not so pleasant music, it uses a lot of VRAM. I game at 1080p and it goes beyond 1.5GB VRAM on my GTX 670 with all settings on Ultra.

I agree with the ones that say it was foolish of you to sell the GTX 580 and going for a downgrade. It would be different if you went for a GTX 670/680/690/HD 7970.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 3:03:53 PM

I'm not watching that again. Also, do you have to make it so big?
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 3:04:32 PM

graemevermeulen said:
Malmentaaaal long time buddy.

Well said

sup bro, how you been.?
I see ya on Steam every so often.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 3:04:51 PM

RussK1 said:
I'm not watching that again. Also, do you have to make it so big?

:lol: 
BIG AZZ HELL.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 3:43:32 PM



RussK1 said:
Being specific, Tom's tests the 5970 did outperform the GTX 590 (below) and the the GTX 580 was non-competitive with it... note that the the tests were done on Oct. of last year and it is single-player which is good because it is GPU bound.

Would I consider a 5970 over a 590? No, But this isn't the issue here.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j357/russwood8814/Capture-36.png

For $200 the 5970 is a good buy... sold the 580 for $327 so that would leave him $109 after purchase of the 5970. He could buy a nice 120GB SSD with that. That would be a upgrade in my book.


verbalizer said:
I stand corrected by the charts.....
(still have a hard time with it though, someone send me a GTX 590 and HD 5970 so I can test for myself, don't worry I'll send them back to you..)
:lol: 


graemevermeulen said:
Malmentaaaal long time buddy.

Well said


I'm back and I'm rolling with the GTX 580 over the HD 5970 and yes, GTX 580 and not the mentioned earlier GTX 590...
I know the HD 5970 beats the GTX 580 but to beat the GTX 590 as well,,,, not happening.
one example:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/297?vs=305

two example:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/297?vs=307
SLi GTX 570 (not 580's) vs HD 5970

third:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/587?vs=516
GTX 590 vs HD 5970

so no way in hell can the HD 5970 beats the GTX 590 in anything.
LIKE I ORIGINALLY STATED.
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 4:09:55 PM

The 590 shouldn't even be in the equation, the OP never even mentioned it.

$350 + 3 games

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Out of stock but;

$310 after rebate + 3 games

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

$320 after rebate + 6% off promo = $300.79

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Needless to say, the 3 game 7950's can be had as low as $300

Only mention these because of the OP:

Quote:
Hello Guys,

I managed to sell my GTX 580 1.5GB for $327. I have four offers right now.

1. MSI HD 5970 reference 2GB card for $218 (used)
2. MSI HD 6970 reference 2GB for $270 (used)
3. Sapphire HD 7850 for $245 (new)
4. Sapphire HD 7870 for $340 (new)



and

Quote:
just looking for the magical 3GB memory.

a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 4:13:23 PM

who mentioned the GTX 590..?
:lol: 
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2012 4:13:24 PM

Kamen_BG said:
The HD 5970 in my opinion the best card you can get from all those.And its also the cheapest.

There is one thing you have to consider though.If you're going to play "big" titles like Battlefield 3 then expect great Crossfire scaling and therefore great performance.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
It even outperforms a GTX 590!

In other titles however crossfire will not scale very well and it will perform only as well as your previous GTX 580
http://www.behardware.com/articles/826-3/crysis-2-perfo...

According to this review however the HD 5970 is on avarage as fast as a GTX 580
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_6...
It is however faster on higher resolutions.

^
this guy