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September 12, 2012 11:03:52 PM

Simple question I think, with these parts what PSU wattage should I have?

http://www.frys.com/product/6215170 Asus 24x OEM Internal DVDRW

http://www.frys.com/product/6420112 Hitachi 1TB Serial ATA/300, 7200RPM, 32MB Buffer

http://www.frys.com/product/6553063 EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti

http://www.frys.com/product/6552683 Corsair Vengeance? 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz DDR3

http://www.frys.com/product/6792655 Corsair H100 Liquid CPU Hydro Series CPU Cooler

http://www.frys.com/product/7054431 Raidmax ATX818WBP Aeolus VL ATX

http://www.frys.com/product/4764099 Antec Thermal Grease :pt1cable: 

http://www.frys.com/product/6820686 AMD FX-8150

http://www.frys.com/product/7217013 Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0 990FX

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September 12, 2012 11:15:43 PM

For that, you'd be set with 550W.

Just a tip, your build is imbalanced. Pairing a FX 8150 with a GTX 550 Ti is like pairing a Lamborghini with Toyota wheels. Tell me your budget and I can create a better build for you.

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Aaaaand G-unit beat me to it.
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September 12, 2012 11:16:56 PM

First off I think I would completely trash that whole build - Raidmax cases are absolute junk, Hitachi HDs have a tremendously high fail rate, and the AMD FX is beaten in just about every game by even the lowest end Intel CPUs. The H100 is overrated - if you're going to do liqiuid loops, do the real thing or not at all. The extra thermal compound isn't needed either.

And then for the GPU - the 550TI won't handle much if anything. There's far better GPUs in that range.
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September 12, 2012 11:20:18 PM

I have a $850 dollar limit and I like AMD not Intel, it's just a preference. I need to be able to get these parts at Fry's Electronics also, They'll price match Newegg.
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September 12, 2012 11:24:13 PM

veladem said:
I have a $850 dollar limit and I like AMD not Intel, it's just a preference. I need to be able to get these parts at Fry's Electronics also, They'll price match Newegg.


its not about what you like, its about what performs better for that price range.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($215.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Diamond Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($211.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Future ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $802.88

that build can the DESTROY the pieces of junk you listed.
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September 12, 2012 11:25:05 PM

veladem said:
I have a $850 dollar limit and I like AMD not Intel, it's just a preference. I need to be able to get these parts at Fry's Electronics also, They'll price match Newegg.


Unless you have a gift card at Fry's, buying your parts there isn't such a good idea. Sales tax will bring your budget down quite a bit.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.00 @ B&H)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Enermax 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $817.93
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-12 19:29 EDT-0400)

This is a bit more balanced build than G-unit's, trading a better power supply and graphics card for the CPU. G-skill's CPU can overclock much better than the one I chose.
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September 12, 2012 11:37:54 PM

idroid said:
its not about what you like, its about what performs better for that price range.


What he said. I wouldn't touch most of those components with a 10 foot pole. That's pretty much a good example of how not to do a proper gaming / whatever build.

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This is a bit more balanced build than G-unit's


I actually didn't suggest a build in my first post. :lol: 

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Just a tip, your build is imbalanced. Pairing a FX 8150 with a GTX 550 Ti is like pairing a Lamborghini with Toyota wheels.


Actually it's more like pairing a Lancer Evo with a Dodge Neon engine. The AMD FX series only caters to a certain percentage of the population who like it for certain qualities while the rest of us will go for something more user friendly. The 3930K is more of the Lamborghini of CPUs currently - something that is a bit of a luxury and only a very small percentage of the population can actually afford.

For that price I'd try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($307.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($24.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $862.33
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-12 19:36 EDT-0400)

A little bit more than everything else posted so far (but will come out about even with rebates, etc). This is a far better build and will completely obliterate the original build posted.
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September 13, 2012 12:00:02 AM

Ohk, well, I'm not building a gaming PC. And the reason I'm using AMD is becuase it's better for what I'm doing. So, if a non-Intel "fanboy" would like to get over their opinoins I would like to hear their AMD build, must have the FX-8150.

I'm building this for CS6 and Sony Vegas and need 8gb of RAM or more. Thanks.
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September 13, 2012 12:01:45 AM

veladem said:
Ohk, well, I'm not building a gaming PC. And the reason I'm using AMD is becuase it's better for what I'm doing. So, if a non-Intel "fanboy" would like to get over their opinoins I would like to hear their AMD build, must have the FX-8150.

I'm building this for CS6 and Sony Vegas and need 8gb of RAM or more. Thanks.


we're not intel fanboys, you're an idiotic closed minded AMD fanboy.

for CS6 and sony vegas an i5 3570k can beat a 8150... and lets not bring the 3770k into the conversation ;) 
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September 13, 2012 12:03:53 AM

g-unit1111 said:


The 3960x is more of the Lamborghini of CPUs currently - something that is a bit of a luxury and only a very small percentage of the population can actually afford.
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*Fixed.


btw... not all Lamborghinis are extremely expensive... some cost ~95k
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September 13, 2012 12:04:32 AM

veladem said:
Ohk, well, I'm not building a gaming PC. And the reason I'm using AMD is becuase it's better for what I'm doing. So, if a non-Intel "fanboy" would like to get over their opinoins I would like to hear their AMD build, must have the FX-8150.

I'm building this for CS6 and Sony Vegas and need 8gb of RAM or more. Thanks.


Fanboy or not it's pretty much a given that any Intel build is better than any AMD build. Here's some benchmarks for you:

- http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/364/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8...
- http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=434

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btw... not all Lamborghinis are extremely expensive... some cost ~95k


Yeah I forget about the 3960X, but not everyone can afford a car for that much, or a CPU for that much. :lol: 
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September 13, 2012 12:09:13 AM

OK, get AMD because you like AMD. Doesn't change the fact that a 3570K still beats the 8150. Unless those programs are HEAVILY multithreaded, i5/i7 wins. CS6 and SV are multithreaded, but not very heavily. i5 is the best choice.
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September 13, 2012 12:09:27 AM

Dude, I wasn't asking you to make me a build, if you knew how to read I wouldn't have called you a fanboy. Jumping into this thread and blatantly disregarding my want for AMD and disregarding my only question is not what this site should be about.

Thank you fpoon for simply answering the question, much respect and admiration.

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September 13, 2012 12:10:40 AM

And that's the i5-2400 beating the FX. The 3570K in idroid's build would be even better....
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September 13, 2012 12:13:13 AM

Why do you want AMD so badly, mind me for asking? The i5 *undeniably* performs better and doesn't cost much more.
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September 13, 2012 12:16:04 AM

obsama1 said:
Why do you want AMD so badly, mind me for asking? The i5 *undeniably* performs better and doesn't cost much more.


It costs $50 more than what I'm getting and the original question in this thread wasn't about my builds structure it was what power wattage I should get.
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September 13, 2012 12:17:52 AM

I'd get 550w-600w for headroom. Get 16GB of RAM, get a case other than Raidmax. Get a WD drive, and get a Noctua D14 cooler.
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September 13, 2012 12:17:53 AM

It's the price/performance ratio. Now that you say you open tons of pictures, I understand why you want an FX chip. Sorry for the misunderstanding. :)  I'd wait a bit and get PD which is a few weeks off. It performs better and uses less power.
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September 13, 2012 12:22:57 AM

I know, I wish I could wait for it but I need to finish off my film. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding also, thank you for that.

But also, I never wanted people to jump me over my build, although I do appreciate it somewhat, but I still didn't ask for it. But please, do post any other builds you guys think would be good for running CS6 with around 5,000+/- images open and Sony Vegas.

PS: that's over 100GB of images, it's horrible.
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September 13, 2012 12:25:09 AM

An SSD would be really good for your needs.
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September 13, 2012 12:27:54 AM

If you have a Microcenter nearby, the FX 8120 is $200 w/ mobo.
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September 13, 2012 12:28:39 AM

No microcenter sadly . . .
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September 13, 2012 12:30:23 AM

Save some cash and get the 8120. Basically a binned 8150, and w/ cooling, toy can OC it to 8150 levels.
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September 13, 2012 12:31:08 AM

But can the OC'd 8120 compare to the OC'd 8150? I would assume the 8150 is a little bit better.
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September 13, 2012 12:45:49 AM

veladem said:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html and for some reason that site says the 8150 is still above the i5-3570K.

And I make stop motion film so tons of pictures open so I would like the AMD chip.


Let's put it another way - that build you posted is grade school t-ball. The builds we posted are the New York Yankees. That build is some guy on a karaoke machine. Our builds are Luciano Pavoratti. You have some off brand generic cola. We have classic Coke.

You can't base your opinion on one benchmark - you have to look at a variety of them, the AMD FX chips maybe perform well in one slight area where Intel pretty much steamrolls in all the others.
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September 13, 2012 12:46:05 AM

No, the 8120 is a binned 8150. Same exact chip, just clocked lower. Pretty much all FX 81xx buyers get the 8120 over the 8150. Both will OC the same.
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September 24, 2012 1:39:13 PM

Best answer selected by veladem.
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September 24, 2012 1:41:27 PM

I don't understand how I asked "what PSU should I get" and I felt like I got jumped with "eat Intel, sleep Intel, be Intel." I really just wanted to know which PSU watt and brand I should get, lol.
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