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January 28, 2013 4:29:17 AM

is A10 5800K good for gaming ??

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January 28, 2013 4:35:48 AM

On the iGPU you can play most games on medium to low settings and get playable frame rates. It is not a highend part so don't expect anything more than that. That said it is by a considerable margin the fastest integrated iGPU solution.

Discrete performance is also very solid, can drive a 7870 to its maximum performance which was rather impressive considering the cost.

Dual graphics, this is the golden ticket, if a game scales well with Crossfire in Dual graphics mode you will almost double the FPS achieved on the iGPU.

Another way to free performance is to use faster Memory, the iGPU is linked to memory SPD's so DDR3 2133 is a very good investment.
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January 28, 2013 4:39:48 AM

i think i'll get A10 5800K + HD7770 or something better with the same price ( i don't have AMD motherboard yet :(  )
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January 28, 2013 4:43:35 AM

The 7770 is a solid enough card, if you can get a 7850 that would be perfect.

ASRock FM2A85x extreme4 or extreme 6 alternatively a MSI FM2A85 GD65
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January 28, 2013 4:50:11 AM

Whats your budge for cpu and gpu?
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January 28, 2013 4:54:02 AM

400$ i think
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January 28, 2013 5:05:53 AM

Then why not get intel i5 3470 at $199 and hd 7850 at 180$ or gtx 650ti at $150.
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January 28, 2013 5:22:49 AM

sarinaide said:
The 7770 is a solid enough card, if you can get a 7850 that would be perfect.

ASRock FM2A85x extreme4 or extreme 6 alternatively a MSI FM2A85 GD65

I completely agree that 7850 would make a perfect pair and also getting AS rock FM2A85 hudson 3 motherboard would be like father mother and son
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January 28, 2013 5:23:15 AM

The MSI FM2A85 GD65 by a long margin if you can afford it.

He has $400 and needs a GPU, CPU and Motherboard, that is a $200 cpu with a $180 GPU with a motherboard that will probably cost $130 to be decent thats already over budgeting and frankly the Intel H and B chipsets are to be avoided at any cost poor connectivity, lowest features and lowest performance off the motherboard.
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January 28, 2013 5:27:06 AM

OP check if above prices (for 3470 etc) are applicable in your country. Do remember however that 5800K will let you learn and experiment with overclocking and there is little point in comparing processors beyond 60 fps (30 for me personally :) 
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January 28, 2013 6:15:51 AM

do not get the A10 if your planning on using a video card past the 7670 (hybrid crossfire with the IGP).

The a10 does not have l3 cache, and games want l3 cache.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/675?vs=700

Same price, same clock, one your buying an integrated graphics card, the other your buying l3 cache. If your not going to use the IGP, your just throwing money away.

The A10 5800k is good for $200-300 buget build.
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January 28, 2013 7:10:18 AM

+1 for noob hands down. I totally forgot bout the l3 cache.
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January 28, 2013 8:09:00 AM

I already have 400 , 550 W psu an 2 8gb ddr3 1600 ram , need mb , cpu and gpu :|
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January 28, 2013 8:12:05 AM

A10 5800K + HD7770 or Phenom II X4 960 ( may be 965 ) + HD7770
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January 28, 2013 8:12:57 AM

The A-Series is not designed for high level gaming, but it has enough game in it even with a discrete level graphics card. For a person looking for a versitile low cost system this platform is perfect.

Hudson D3 platform (A85) generally come in ATX, MATX and ITX form factors, from testing ASRock products all ASRock A85's come with 7 SATA6GB ports, 4 USB3.0, 3 USB2.0, 1USB super speed port, support for DVI, HDMIx2, 2x PCI-e 16/8 or 8x8, Mosfet, VRM and chipset cooling and 8+2(MATX and ITX come with 6+2) phase VRMS, LUCIDMVP and ASRock system suite with interesting software like Quick boost.

The MSI board is a good one, the only thing lacking is Lucid MVP but still get high end features and connectivity at a cost you will normally pick up a el cheapo 970 or B75 chipset. Considering the APU can still deliver well above average FPS the FPS difference becomes less pertinent. L3 Cache is worth around 7-12FPS but then again so is faster DDR3.

You have to make the trade off do you want the versitility of the A-Series or do you want the FX setup or Intel whichever.
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January 28, 2013 1:04:41 PM

I used the a10 to build my friend a whole computer for under $400.

550w PSU
A10
MSI FM2 mobo
8GB of ddr3 1600 RAM
120GB SSD
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January 28, 2013 1:04:57 PM

played WOW on ultra, all he wanted.
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January 28, 2013 1:17:51 PM

mansfield said:
I used the a10 to build my friend a whole computer for under $400.

550w PSU
A10
MSI FM2 mobo
8GB of ddr3 1600 RAM
120GB SSD

i already have 8GB of ddr3 1600 RAM and 400W psu
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January 28, 2013 2:46:35 PM

phong1996 said:
A10 5800K + HD7770 or Phenom II X4 960 ( may be 965 ) + HD7770

phenom 965 would be good if you can find one.
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January 28, 2013 2:49:42 PM

phong1996 said:
i already have 8GB of ddr3 1600 RAM and 400W psu


Since you have a 400w (what model and brand) a Phenom II x 4 960 uses around 250w upwards, then you have the GPU using over 100w, I am dead certain that is not continuous power so I wouldn't suggest the 960BE unless you want things to go boom. I build plenty FM2 HTPC/Gaming setups a week and the only 400w PSU that touches my builds is the Seasonic Platinum Fanless series, that is 400w continous power at extremely high efficiency and 95% of that on the 12v rail, but they are expensive.

DDR3 1600 is good, but I kid you not DDR3 2133 is money for framerates probably worth about 7-10FPS extra.
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January 28, 2013 3:18:52 PM

the 400W power supply should work fine.



this 7770 is pulling ~200 watts with a 3960x, measurements taken at the wall

but I agree, the 965 if overclocked can hit 250W of total system power with another ~90W from the gpu will definately be hard on a 400W ps.

as long as he isn't overclocking much, it shouldn't be a problem.

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January 29, 2013 4:26:11 AM

My concern that is a PSU 400w max output with like 260w on the 12v, that PSU wont power that setup, it will switch on and switch off, or work for a little while then sparks fly and the entire system goes with it. As I said the only capable 400w PSU on the market capable of pretty high end parts is the SeaSonic Plat Series or Gold series. Run a oc'd 5800k, H80i, 7850OC, SSD, HDD, Optical, Fans as well as USB connections all under that 400w PSU with around 80w-90w left over.
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January 29, 2013 9:42:32 AM

sarinaide said:
My concern that is a PSU 400w max output with like 260w on the 12v, that PSU wont power that setup, it will switch on and switch off, or work for a little while then sparks fly and the entire system goes with it. As I said the only capable 400w PSU on the market capable of pretty high end parts is the SeaSonic Plat Series or Gold series. Run a oc'd 5800k, H80i, 7850OC, SSD, HDD, Optical, Fans as well as USB connections all under that 400w PSU with around 80w-90w left over.

I have 550W psu but in my mother's pc ( pentium X-D ) i may replace it with my 400W :D 
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January 29, 2013 12:37:24 PM

You can go with the FX4300 on say a Gigabyte 970XA UD3 with the HD7770. I would seriously give thought to your PSU, if the PSU fails there it often takes a few things with it. In every build the PSU is the most fundamental component for a build.
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January 29, 2013 1:30:38 PM

+1 for sarinaide. my cheap 300W psu did not die but sure did kill my hard drive. I had to go through two RMA's before i put in my corsair and my confidence is restored.

I lost a lot of important professional and personal stuff.
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January 29, 2013 6:38:44 PM

You don't ever skimp on the PSU, save costs everywhere else but the PSU.
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January 29, 2013 7:07:53 PM

sarinaide said:
Discrete performance is also very solid, can drive a 7870 to its maximum performance which was rather impressive considering the cost.

Dual graphics, this is the golden ticket, if a game scales well with Crossfire in Dual graphics mode you will almost double the FPS achieved on the iGPU.


You make it sound like he will be able to hybrid crossfire with a 7870, which is not possible not even a 7850.
An A10 crossfire with a 6670.-

I rather not waste money on an APU and pay for an IGPU if i'm buying a discrete card. I think you are wasting OP money.


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January 29, 2013 8:21:11 PM

nconde25 said:
You make it sound like he will be able to hybrid crossfire with a 7870, which is not possible not even a 7850.
An A10 crossfire with a 6670.-

I rather not waste money on an APU and pay for an IGPU if i'm buying a discrete card. I think you are wasting OP money.



Where did I ever say dual graphics worked with any card higher than a HD6670
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January 30, 2013 3:35:49 AM

Will a 550w PSU be enough for this build
AMD VISHERA FMV2-8350
MSI 880GMA-E35
8GB ram
Graphics Card : ????? ( I have a sony TV 40 Inch 1080P so I think I will save money to buy one good Graphics card )
Just wanted my computer like my ps3 :D 
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January 30, 2013 3:46:34 AM

400$ for AMD VISHERA FMV2-8350
MSI 880GMA-E35 ( My friend gave me )
and the rest of my money ??? :| ( I think I will save to buy a 7850 or 7870 at the end of this year )
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February 1, 2013 6:05:55 AM

Here is a great link to get an idea of the gaming capabilities of different processors with a discrete graphics card. This shows that an i5 would be your best bet with a discrete graphics card.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-83...

Here is the performance comparison of the a10 with other processors when not using a discrete graphics card.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/amd-t...

If you want a budget system without a discrete graphics card, the a10 is the best option and delivers pretty decent results. In fact a10 gives better fps than an i5 or FX-8350 without the discrete graphics.
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February 1, 2013 8:27:56 AM

phong1996 said:
400$ for AMD VISHERA FMV2-8350
MSI 880GMA-E35 ( My friend gave me )
and the rest of my money ??? :| ( I think I will save to buy a 7850 or 7870 at the end of this year )

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/880GMA-E35--FX-.html#/?di...

that board doesn't support 125W cpus, and such, the 8350 won't work. The best you can get on there is the 6300, wich strictly for games would be very close to the 8350.

everything else will work together with it tho.
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February 1, 2013 8:43:24 AM

FX 6300 is a fantastic value chip right now, close single and multithreaded performance to a 83XX family and substantially faster than the FX 4XXX family
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February 1, 2013 8:52:42 AM

yes i agree go with either fx-6300 or A10-5800k. dont bother with other chips like 8350 as they wont really give you any better performance. and pair it with a 7850 or a 650ti or if budget allows a gtx 660. thats a kick ass build right there.
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February 1, 2013 12:49:37 PM

thanks u all , I think a10-5800k + HD6670 2GB DDR3 will be the best choice
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February 1, 2013 1:02:00 PM

or may be the i3-3220 + HD7770 :|
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February 1, 2013 1:08:46 PM

mansfield said:
I used the a10 to build my friend a whole computer for under $400.

550w PSU
A10
MSI FM2 mobo
8GB of ddr3 1600 RAM
120GB SSD

does the msi fm2 work ????
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February 1, 2013 1:10:33 PM

really need that answer urgently if it reallt works fine then i will buy the a55 e33 msi motherboard as i want the cheapest out there
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