Hd 6770 pwns hd 6850?

[panwala95]

hey all citizens of toms hardware!
i have a doubt
we were having alan party at my place the other day and my frend had brought his rig
on his rig he played bf3 singleplayer on 1080p hihg
i asked him why not ultra?
he said he gets poor fps on ultra till the time he drops down to 1440x900 (without aa)
but i get around 30fps on ultra (no aa) 1080p he only gets 15 fps
his rig-
i3 -2100
gigabyte h61m ds2
cooler master extreme 500w
msi hd 6850 cyclone
2x2gb ram

my rig
i5-2500
intel dh61ww
corsair cx 500 w
sapphire hd 6770 ( stock)
2x2gb ram
just curious any problem in his rig?
also we both use the same catalyst 12.7
thanks !

 

[rmpumper]

i3 -2100 - here's the problem.

 

[PCgamer81]

I agree with the guy above.

i3 - 2100 is not a gaming CPU.

But as far as a reference 6770 "pwning" an MSI 6850 cyclone...

Uh...no.

 

[panwala95]

but at toms we have been taught (Lol) that cpu makes very little difference in games!
(except maybe gta iv?)

 

[najirion]

ohh there's an article about this. its really odd but 6770 beats 6850 in lower resolutions.
check this out:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/diablo-iii-performance-benchmark,3195-5.html

however, 6850 should beat 6770 in higher resolutions. I use a sapphire 6770 as well, makes me a proud owner LOL.

 

[panwala95]

ohh there's an article about this. its really odd but 6770 beats 6850 in lower resolutions.
check this out:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/diablo-iii-performance-benchmark,3195-5.html

however, 6850 should beat 6770 in higher resolutions. I use a sapphire 6770 as well, makes me a proud owner LOL.

ditto

 

[panwala95]

but according to this thread an i3 2100 will not even bottleneck a hd 6950
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/339299-28-will-2100-bottleneck-radeon-6950

 

[panwala95]

even here you can see the fps barely budges as you shift from a dual core to a quad core-
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-core-i3-2100-phenom-ii-x6-1075t,2859-3.html

 

[PCgamer81]

even here you can see the fps barely budges as you shift from a dual core to a quad core-
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-core-i3-2100-phenom-ii-x6-1075t,2859-3.html

I didn't read the article, but BF3 is a very demanding game - it's going to need as much hardware acceleration as possible. Without a good CPU behind your card, the framerate is going to drop. Period.

 

[panwala95]

i thought that only applies to bf3 multiplayer?

 

[PCgamer81]

i thought that only applies to bf3 multiplayer?

BF3 multiplayer can be demanding in 32 on 32, especially with stuff flying everywhere. But it's also very demanding even in single player.

MP also has a lot to do with your internet connection. Sometimes people with beast setups get tons of lag in MP simply because their connection sucks.

 

[panwala95]

but if he has a better card why does he get lag in single player ?

 

[rmpumper]

but if he has a better card why does he get lag in single player ?

CPU needs to calculate all the AI's, that's why i5 with 6770 wins over i3 with 6850.

 

[Sunius]

I doubt it's CPU. Come on, it CANNOT be cpu. i3 2100 is more than enough for BF3 single player. I'd say either he has something running in the background, or his drivers are a mess.

 

[panwala95]

like i said we use same drivers and nothing was running in the background!

 

[Sunius]

Just check the CPU usage then?

 

[panwala95]

jus t a sec....

 

[panwala95]

im getting 65 % on the i5 checking the i3...

 

[panwala95]

getting 82 % on the i3
seems ok...

 

[panwala95]

It is hyperthreading vs 4 real cores...

No surprise that the i5 will pull away in this title.

Multiplayer is definitely way more demanding than single player.

Here is proof from my single GTX 480:

[flash=1280,720]http://www.youtube.com/v/K7GZPPB1Jbg?version=3&hl=en_GB[/flash]

[flash=1280,720]http://www.youtube.com/v/WCrWg5nc3xU?version=3&hl=en_GB[/flash]

not talking bout multiplayer....

 

[akamrcrack]

My 965BE was bottlenecking my bf3 experience

I expect that i3 to do the same.

 

[panwala95]

My 965BE was bottlenecking my bf3 experience

I expect that i3 to do the same.

i3 is at par with phenom 2 on basis of games ...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-core-i3-2100-phenom-ii-x6-1075t,2859-3.html

 

[Sunius]

82% load on i3 means it is the CPU It should not go higher than 60%.. Are you sure nothing is running in the background? Post a screenshot of task manager processes sorted by the user name.

 

[panwala95]

it is a dual core
i suppose cpu usage is normal cause on idle it is running at 2-3% load...

 

[panwala95]

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