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Building a new PC for gaming $450 (BF3)

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September 14, 2012 4:11:23 AM

Parts owned, 24inch samsung syncmaster , Keyboard/mouse etc.


http://i.imgur.com/ifHgM.png This is what I have so far , This is also my preferd website : http://www.pccasegear.com/


Please help me build a Rig that I can play some games on , Like BF3 and skyrim.

I live in Australia so newegg is unavailable to me I think.

I prefer Intel , And Nvidia , But I have read around and Nvidia is better at the high end price point and amd seems better at the lower end Price point. I also saw that the 7770 perform's better than the 550 ti for the same price so I chose that.
September 14, 2012 4:21:30 AM

Oh yeah , I will be ordering next week ^_^
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September 14, 2012 4:29:05 AM

You should be able to get by with those options. I'd have to caution you about Thermaltake's included power supplies... they seem to have much lower build quality and reliability, but haven't damaged any components when they failed (twice) on my wife's machine (yet). Just something to keep in mind.

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September 14, 2012 4:30:16 AM

tivatar said:
You should be able to get by with those options. I'd have to caution you about Thermaltake's included power supplies... they seem to have much lower build quality and reliability, but haven't damaged any components when they failed (twice) on my wife's machine (yet). Just something to keep in mind.

Oh damn, Do you think its worth getting a cheaper case , And a good 450W psu?
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September 14, 2012 4:30:27 AM

take a look at the new nevidia gtx 650 spec online see how it runs vs the amd card.
on your mb be care full of the mb you pick out on the low end mb they cut down the number of sata ports on the mb and or the bus speed of the one video slot or the warranty of the mb. the board you picked out only has one intel 6g sata port and then uses a third party chipset. you want to use a h chipset mb that has two intel 6g sats ports and 4 3g sata ports.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
it real live you want to put your ssd if you get one and your 6g hard drive on the two intel 6g ports and your cd-rom on one of the black 6g sata ports. also toss in http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
or a good aftermarket cooler the intel coolers are fine for light gaming but for long day gaming a bigger heat sink will keep your cpu cool.
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September 14, 2012 4:35:42 AM

smorizio said:
take a look at the new nevidia gtx 650 spec online see how it runs vs the amd card.
on your mb be care full of the mb you pick out on the low end mb they cut down the number of sata ports on the mb and or the bus speed of the one video slot or the warranty of the mb. the board you picked out only has one intel 6g sata port and then uses a third party chipset. you want to use a h chipset mb that has two intel 6g sats ports and 4 3g sata ports.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
it real live you want to put your ssd if you get one and your 6g hard drive on the two intel 6g ports and your cd-rom on one of the black 6g sata ports. also toss in http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
or a good aftermarket cooler the intel coolers are fine for light gaming but for long day gaming a bigger heat sink will keep your cpu cool.

Thanks for the recommendation, I only need one PCIe 16x slot , but I am getting a HD capture card to use in the other slot (x1) :D  So should be fine ^_^
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September 14, 2012 4:37:33 AM

smorizio said:
take a look at the new nevidia gtx 650 spec online see how it runs vs the amd card.


If the last two generations of NVIDIA cards is any indication, the middle-of-the-road GPUs will be the worst value of the entire line, ie GTX 550 and GTS 450.
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September 14, 2012 4:47:06 AM

smorizio said:
take a look at the new nevidia gtx 650 spec online see how it runs vs the amd card.
on your mb be care full of the mb you pick out on the low end mb they cut down the number of sata ports on the mb and or the bus speed of the one video slot or the warranty of the mb. the board you picked out only has one intel 6g sata port and then uses a third party chipset. you want to use a h chipset mb that has two intel 6g sats ports and 4 3g sata ports.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
it real live you want to put your ssd if you get one and your 6g hard drive on the two intel 6g ports and your cd-rom on one of the black 6g sata ports. also toss in http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
or a good aftermarket cooler the intel coolers are fine for light gaming but for long day gaming a bigger heat sink will keep your cpu cool.


An aftermarket heat-sink is a bit much for a Pentium... especially on a budget. Optical drives don't come anywhere near saturating SATA-1, much less SATA-III (6Gb)... the motherboard selected by OP ($65 ASRock B75M) doesn't have any of those problems you listed for the ASUS P8B75.


If you can afford to spend a little extra on a power supply, it's probably a good idea. Thermaltake isn't a bad brand, but in my personal experience, their included PSU's haven't been so great (RMA was easy though). You shouldn't need more than 350-400W for the build as-is.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
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September 14, 2012 8:42:51 AM

tivatar said:
An aftermarket heat-sink is a bit much for a Pentium... especially on a budget. Optical drives don't come anywhere near saturating SATA-1, much less SATA-III (6Gb)... the motherboard selected by OP ($65 ASRock B75M) doesn't have any of those problems you listed for the ASUS P8B75.


If you can afford to spend a little extra on a power supply, it's probably a good idea. Thermaltake isn't a bad brand, but in my personal experience, their included PSU's haven't been so great (RMA was easy though). You shouldn't need more than 350-400W for the build as-is.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Yeah , I think I'll grab that PSU , And then a cheaper case, Will be worth it in the long run I think.
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September 14, 2012 12:22:26 PM

if you are planning on playing BF MultiPlayer (MP) I strongly recommend a quad core CPU. BF3 MP will really slow down in MP once a firefight starts or you get multiple players moving on the screen. BF3 is one of the few games that will use more than 2 cores.

to stay around the same price as the G850 your options are mostly the FX-4100 or Phenom II x 4 965BE and AM3+ MB. a i5 CPU would be ideal, but would be much more expensive

the HD 7770 will get you mostly high settings (keep the AF and AA to reasonable levels) you should get 30-40FPS. it beats out all the cards of similar price and is way ahead of the GTX 650.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-gef...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750...
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September 14, 2012 2:08:27 PM

Quad Core BF3 Rig
Antec VP-450P PSU $52.00
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8638
Coolermaster RC-371 Case without PSU $44
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7726
LG SATA Black DVD RW $19
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=5540
Seagate 3.5" Barracuda 500GB ST500DM002 SATA3 7200RPM 16MB HDD $62
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8477
HIS 1GB 7770 PCI-E VGA Card $119
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8727
G.Skill-NT 8GB Kit (4Gx2) DDR3 1333 ram $38
AMD AM3+AMD FX-4100 3.6Ghz Boxed CPU $114
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8501
ASRock 970DE3-U3S3 AM3+ $68
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9278
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$516 AU
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September 14, 2012 2:35:30 PM

jerreddredd said:
Quad Core BF3 Rig
Antec VP-450P PSU $52.00
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8638
Coolermaster RC-371 Case without PSU $44
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7726
LG SATA Black DVD RW $19
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=5540
Seagate 3.5" Barracuda 500GB ST500DM002 SATA3 7200RPM 16MB HDD $62
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8477
HIS 1GB 7770 PCI-E VGA Card $119
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8727
G.Skill-NT 8GB Kit (4Gx2) DDR3 1333 ram $38
AMD AM3+AMD FX-4100 3.6Ghz Boxed CPU $114
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8501
ASRock 970DE3-U3S3 AM3+ $68
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9278
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$516 AU

Hey thanks for the build , But the cpu will just be a place holder till I get an i5 :D  , Probs won't be playing BF3 MP for a while xD ,Also that website looks good! , Thank's! ^_^
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September 14, 2012 3:23:45 PM

Will bf3 run better on this A6-3670K? (Im talking MP performance)
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September 14, 2012 4:39:48 PM

Help please, I am ordering this next week ^_^ And I really want playable MP performance. Would this do it?


Lite-On IHAS324 24x DVDRW
In stock $21.00
BitFenix Spectre 120mm Black Tinted Blue LED Fan
In stock $9.50
Western Digital WD Blue 500GB WD5000AAKX
In stock $65.00
G.Skill F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT (2x4GB) DDR3
In stock $39.00
ASRock 880GM-LE FX Motherboard
In stock $62.00
AMD FX 4100 4-Core Processor
In stock $115.00
Powercolor Radeon HD7770 GHz Edition 1GB
In stock $119.00
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition with 500W
In stock $69.00


Sub-Total: $499.50



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September 14, 2012 6:21:59 PM

milkshakez7z said:
Help please, I am ordering this next week ^_^ And I really want playable MP performance. Would this do it?

Sub-Total: $499.50


yes.

the FX-4100 is the best quad core for your budget
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

the thermaltake PSU is not the best in the world, but should support the system

good luck with the build.
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September 15, 2012 4:17:13 AM

jerreddredd said:
yes.

the FX-4100 is the best quad core for your budget
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

the thermaltake PSU is not the best in the world, but should support the system

good luck with the build.

Ive decided on skipping BF3 and getting a pentium g630. I think I will buy an i5 later on then maybe play BF3 or whatever the next BF game is lol,
Thanks for your help though!
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September 15, 2012 7:15:23 AM

milkshakez7z said:
Ive decided on skipping BF3 and getting a pentium g630. I think I will buy an i5 later on then maybe play BF3 or whatever the next BF game is lol,
Thanks for your help though!

I would get the G850. at least it will use 1333mhz ram and is clocked 500mhz faster. the G600/500 CPU series memory controllers only support 1066mhz. when you are dealing with budget CPU's every little bit helps, memory, Clock rate...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-pc-do-it-you...
"While the gaming potential of our entry-level dual-core chip is worthy of respect, it’s important to remember that its 2.4 GHz clock rate is all you'll ever get from it. Instead, we think that today’s build deserves, at the very least, a step up to Intel's Pentium G850. The extra $38 is a wise investment for anyone looking to duplicate out efforts."

the G850 can play BF3 MP, but you will get framing (below 25FPS) sometimes when the action heats up (not good when you are fighting for your life :-().
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September 15, 2012 7:49:25 AM

jerreddredd said:
I would get the G850. at least it will use 1333mhz ram and is clocked 500mhz faster. the G600/500 CPU series memory controllers only support 1066mhz. when you are dealing with budget CPU's every little bit helps, memory, Clock rate...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-pc-do-it-you...
"While the gaming potential of our entry-level dual-core chip is worthy of respect, it’s important to remember that its 2.4 GHz clock rate is all you'll ever get from it. Instead, we think that today’s build deserves, at the very least, a step up to Intel's Pentium G850. The extra $38 is a wise investment for anyone looking to duplicate out efforts."

the G850 can play BF3 MP, but you will get framing (below 25FPS) sometimes when the action heats up (not good when you are fighting for your life :-().

Yeah , For the extra cash it may be worth it. Thanks mate.
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September 16, 2012 3:08:36 AM

Would getting an i3 and a 7750 be a better idea?
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September 16, 2012 6:04:07 AM

I'm currently building my own $500 rig ($500 after taxes and shipping, so about $450) and I managed to fit in the i3-2100 for $105 and a Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 for $145 into my build. It is doable, I skimped on the motherboard to get the good stuff now.
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September 16, 2012 6:24:23 AM

dscudella said:
I'm currently building my own $500 rig ($500 after taxes and shipping, so about $450) and I managed to fit in the i3-2100 for $105 and a Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 for $145 into my build. It is doable, I skimped on the motherboard to get the good stuff now.

In Au i3 is $125 , 6850 is unavailable :C
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September 16, 2012 6:42:17 AM

milkshakez7z said:
Would getting an i3 and a 7750 be a better idea?

No.

the G850 is very close to the i3 performance wise in games. Lowering your GPU power would be a big mistake.
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September 16, 2012 6:44:56 AM

jerreddredd said:
No.

the G850 is very close to the i3 performance wise in games. Lowering your GPU power would be a big mistake.

I have been reading that BF3 will run better on the i3 in MP becuase of hyper threading.
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September 16, 2012 7:27:20 AM

BF3 takes advantage of multiple cores, you would see an increase with a Quad Core i5 but that's out of reach. Skyrim is very GPU dependent. So lowering your GPU would be counter productive.

EDIT: If you're dead set on BF3 then stick with the AMD FX simply for the quad cores but you're limiting yourself on possible upgrades later on.
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September 16, 2012 9:23:49 AM

dscudella said:
BF3 takes advantage of multiple cores, you would see an increase with a Quad Core i5 but that's out of reach. Skyrim is very GPU dependent. So lowering your GPU would be counter productive.

EDIT: If you're dead set on BF3 then stick with the AMD FX simply for the quad cores but you're limiting yourself on possible upgrades later on.

Im not going to expecting to play games on high, My current build is now a pentium g630 2.7GHZ and a 7750 , as I have to spend money on a HD capture card as-well, Would I get decent frames in BF3 and skyrim on low-medium?
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