GTX 670 vs. GTX 660ti or Radeon 7950

[ForYourHealth]

Hey guys,

I have my build all together except for the GPU. Considering my budget and my intentions (gaming at 1920x1080), I think I have 4 possible ways to go and I need some advice.

I could:
1. Get a gtx 670 for < $400 (discount on newegg) MSI or galaxy
Which of these two is better quality/price value?

2. Wait for the gtx 660ti to come out next month and wait to see how it compares in price/performance with the 7950. Decide then.

3. Get the radeon 7950 right now!MSI for $310


The gtx 670 is normally right outside of my budget range at $400-$420. But those two deals significantly reduce the price. Do you think it's worth it to just get the 670 and forget this 660ti/7950 debate?


My setup:
Core i5 3570k
Gigabyte GA-Z77x-UD3H
2 x 4gb Corsair vengeance DDR3 1600
2tb seagate barracuda 3.0 gb/s

 

[redeemer]

The 7950 @ $310 for sure is the way to go. When you overclock it to an easy 1.1Ghz it matches a gtx 680, and if you playing with voltages than the 7950 will reach a level of performance the gtx 670 overclocked cannot match.

 

[Guest]

gtx 660 is not out yet

 

[ForYourHealth]

I know, the 660ti doesn't come out next month!


And redeemer, are you sure that's true? An OCed 7950 is better than an OCed 670?? If that's true, then it's a freakin no brainer, one costs $100 less haha

 

[fil1p]

If you take a gtx 670 you can OC it and it will beat a gtx 680. The gtx 670 goes head to head with the hd7970, at least at stock speeds, the hd7970 have more OC headroom. I would go for the gtx 670. The amd cards have the benefit of having adjustable voltage, the gtx600 cards are limited to 1.175v. However the hd7950 will be more than enough for games @ 1920x1080, its a good deal that when overclocked only gets sweeter. Personally I would go with a gtx 670, but its up to you, the gtx 600s have adaptive v sync along with new AA technology, and they support up to 4 displays so its not only amd that now supports 3 displays or more.

Hope this helps!

 

[ForYourHealth]

I'll only be using 2 displays max. Also, I know the gtx670 is better by all performance means.

I'm just wondering if it is really $60 better and if I'll notice a $60 difference. Because if I bought today, that would be the price difference. The twin frozr MSI radeon 7950 is $310 after rebate and the MSI. The MSI 670 is $370 after promotional newegg giftcard and the galaxy 670 is $380 after promo and MIR.

Is the 670 really worth the extra 60-70 dollars?

 

[fil1p]

If its $60 then IMO its worth it, the hd7950 will not come close to the gtx 670, if you were to overclock both a gtx 670 and a hd7950 the gtx 670 would still win so whoever said they were close i dont think that is the case. For $60 I would go for the MSI card. MSI is a better brand than galaxy, but if its a reference design then there wont be much of a difference.

Hope this helps!

 

[ForYourHealth]

MSI 670
I don't think it's a reference card!

 

[fil1p]

Well in that case its even better, but the cooling looks like its the stock version, the only thing i see is that this one is a bit overclocked, and has a bit better power circuitry components.

 

[ForYourHealth]

Also, I will probably be adding a second card in the future, unless at whatever point I decide to upgrade it is more cost effective to buy a single new card (probably in a couple years).

Which do you think go better when doubling up, 670s or 7950s?

 

[ForYourHealth]

Wow that 7950 @ $310 is a great deal... better price/performance than even the GTX 670.

I'd pick one of those up in a heartbeat... overclock it if you want GTX 670 performance from it.

It's factory overclocked to 880 mhz. I think it's a really big deal and unless I can hear some compelling evidence that the 670 is better in the long run or is worth the extra $60 for some other reason, I'm gonna go with the MSI 7950!

 

[fil1p]

Well the hd7950 is more than enough for 1920x1080p as i said before. If you don't need the best of the best then the hd7950 is great, it beats all the last generation cards. As for having a second card in the future performance wise you should be gettin 1.8 times the performance compared to one card, but that is just a rough figure and it all depends on how well both cards scale in specific games. AMD cards have been known for having a bit more driver issues with multi GPU setups, but both crossfire and SLI setups can suffer from things like microstutter, although such problems have decreased with the evolution of drivers in some cases they are still present. Note that two gtx670 will use less power than two hd7950s, but if you power supply can handle it then I dont see why not.

 

[ForYourHealth]

I have a 750W PC power and cooling, do you think that will do?

 

[ForYourHealth]

Also, no one ever speculated about the 660ti! Would it be worth waiting for that?

 

[fil1p]

Well its a good idea to have a good quality 700watt psu if you plan on having two hd 7950 in crossfire. Pc power and cooling is quite a nice unit from what i read, so it should be more than fine for a crossfire hd 7950 setup, you just have to have enough six pin power connectors which it has, assuming you have this pc power and cooling :
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/PC-Power-and-Cooling-Silencer-Mk-II-750-W-Power-Supply-Review/1030/1

 

[fil1p]

As for the 660ti if it is cheaper or at the price of a hd7950 then it may be a good choice. It should outperform the hd7950, but if you were to overclock the hd7950 then i think it could be at the level or better then a gtx660. However we cannot really compare the two now as we don't know how the gtx 660 will perform. However if you take a hd7950 it should still be fine for your needs.

Hope this helps!

 

[gamerkila57]

As for the 660ti if it is cheaper or at the price of a hd7950 then it may be a good choice. It should outperform the hd7950, but if you were to overclock the hd7950 then i think it could be at the level or better then a gtx660. However we cannot really compare the two now as we don't know how the gtx 660 will perform. However if you take a hd7950 it should still be fine for your needs.

Hope this helps!

an overclocked HD 7950 could beat a stock GTX 670 ? let a long a GTX 660 TI which will be slower than GTX 670 ?


both stock
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/598?vs=550

 

[ForYourHealth]

The gtx 660ti is expected to be priced at $299 (before aftermarket versions and stuff like that). What about it will make it outperform the 7950? If that's true, I'd hands down go with the 660ti.

 

[gamerkila57]

The gtx 660ti is expected to be priced at $299 (before aftermarket versions and stuff like that). What about it will make it outperform the 7950? If that's true, I'd hands down go with the 660ti.

 

[ForYourHealth]

gamerkila, I don't understand what you're intending to say. Did I say something really stupid?

 

[fil1p]

Yes if you overclock it in certain situation it may beat it, but consider the fact that if you overclock both of the cards the gtx 670 will beat the hd7950. Also if you look at that list the hd7950 mostly beats the gtx670 at resolutions of 2560x1600, which i doubt he will be playing at. The hd7950 beats the gtx670 when run in triple monitor set ups but consider that it has 1gb more ram which helps it out in those situations. At normal resolutions the gtx 670 is better.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-review,3200-5.html
^^
take a look at that, in battlefield 3 the gtx 670 beats the hd7950 by 15fps

 

[fil1p]

I would go with a hd7950 over a gtx660.

 

[gamerkila57]

I would go with a hd7950 over a gtx660.

+1

 

[ForYourHealth]

So then I have to decide now. Is the gtx 670 worth the extra 60-70 dollars?

I'm beginning to wonder if I would ever notice a difference either way. In the end, I'll only get to use one of the cards. haha

 

[fil1p]

Well the hd7950 will run all of your games at 1920x1080, and if you want to save $60 then go for it. The gtx 670 will outperform it in gaming. The gtx 670 uses less power, but its compute performance is not so good. Will you be using you graphic card for other purposes other than gaming, such as 3d rendering? Since the gtx 670 is on sale from msi then its a pretty nice deal.