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What's the best card money can buy for about 250$?

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July 26, 2012 9:15:11 PM

7850, 560, etc, which one? I want to upgrade from my 450 to a decent card that can play ALL games at perfect settings at 1920x1080. Max is about 250$ and I'd like of course to get one as soon as possible, under 2 weeks (for personal reasons).

Never had an ATi, only had nvidias and, a voodoo and a card with a weird name i can't remember... back in 1996. But I heard they're good and they're generally cheaper but have bad drivers is this true? Are they worse like amd is vs intel? or comparable to nvidia?

sorry for the generic question that you may get here a lot I bet but I wan't to decide once and for all... should I wait for a nvidia or buy a 7850 right away... OR should I get something else...?

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a b U Graphics card
July 26, 2012 11:01:04 PM

yes if overclocked
a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 12:55:49 AM

If you wanna go higher risk but better performance per dollar use ebay. A 7870 sold for $225 with an 80+ psu last night. Also there is a 580 on ebay for 260 free shipping right now. But remember it is a little higher risk because you are buying used but there is a good chance it comes with a lifetime warranty.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Graphics-Video-Cards-/27386/i.h...
July 27, 2012 1:03:45 AM

mrbeanladen said:
7850, 560, etc, which one? I want to upgrade from my 450 to a decent card that can play ALL games at perfect settings at 1920x1080. Max is about 250$ and I'd like of course to get one as soon as possible, under 2 weeks (for personal reasons).

Never had an ATi, only had nvidias and, a voodoo and a card with a weird name i can't remember... back in 1996. But I heard they're good and they're generally cheaper but have bad drivers is this true? Are they worse like amd is vs intel? or comparable to nvidia?

sorry for the generic question that you may get here a lot I bet but I wan't to decide once and for all... should I wait for a nvidia or buy a 7850 right away... OR should I get something else...?


I'd have to agree with gamerkila57 on this one. Try and save for the 570 if you can, it's a beast.
a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 2:22:17 AM

GTX 570
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 3:39:42 AM

The 570 i linked is your best bet at that price point i have two of those and they kick ass!
a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 3:41:58 AM

I'd even go with a GTX 560Ti-448 over the HD 7850....
(just saying...)
:p 
a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 3:50:07 AM

verbalizer said:
I'd even go with a GTX 560Ti-448 over the HD 7850....
(just saying...)
:p 

I need to wake up to the king tomorrow, I'm expecting French toast sticks. I'll leave the window cracked.
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 3:56:52 AM

verbalizer said:
I'd even go with a GTX 560Ti-448 over the HD 7850....
(just saying...)
:p 
+1
July 27, 2012 4:21:24 AM

Get the 7850. Its on a completely new process, 28nm vs 40nm. In terms of performance efficiency the difference is massive and it does over clock. Funny how the strong recommendations for the 570 are from owners of 570s... try running your cards in OCCT stress test guys, they artificate on default clocks, yeah great cards.
a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 4:34:35 AM

:/ 
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 4:39:31 AM

verbalizer said:
:/
:lol:  fan boys will be fan boys
July 27, 2012 4:48:44 AM

Me a fan boy ?? You're the guys advising our friend here to pick up old tech... he might be paying his own power bills so be better off with something new, fresh and energy efficient.
a c 185 U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 4:55:33 AM

Maximus_Delta said:
Me a fan boy ?? You're the guys advising our friend here to pick up old tech... he might be paying his own power bills so be better off with something new, fresh and energy efficient.
He would be better off waiting for 660 then IMO
July 27, 2012 5:00:56 AM

what about a 560ti dose good performance and dose even better sli

on bf3 if u go a msi 560ti hawk and on a rez of 1920x1080 ur gunna get good fps and its even better when overclocking because of the awesome cooling on it
July 27, 2012 5:17:32 AM

you dont want to SLI low powered cards like that... Crossfire / SLI on the high end stuff works well but almost always better off getting the highest performing single GPU card you can... CrossFire / SLI is for when there is no one card out there that can do the job at 60fps IMHO. SLI aiming to hit 30/40fps bad idea. There is an article on Tom's about microstutter and the like.
a c 109 U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 6:16:54 AM

GTX 570!
July 27, 2012 6:31:29 AM

stickg1 said:
Go with a GTX 570: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or a HD7850: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 570 is a little better but consumes more power. What PSU do you currently have?

It's a Gigabyte 620watts 2 rails I think It could handle it perfectly (a psu calculator told me I'd only consume 444-494w) but i don't know about the 570... it's almost 50% more expensive in my country, not cheaper. I know It's pretty weird, but this card is cheaper than a 560 for example (the 7850) so I thought IT would be the best deal.


And the 660 too, i don't know... people say it will be 300$+ and its performance about the same as this card.

my psu: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...
I see it has 18amp on each rails and 36 for both of them is that important?
a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 10:32:37 AM

Maximus_Delta said:
you dont want to SLI low powered cards like that... Crossfire / SLI on the high end stuff works well but almost always better off getting the highest performing single GPU card you can... CrossFire / SLI is for when there is no one card out there that can do the job at 60fps IMHO. SLI aiming to hit 30/40fps bad idea. There is an article on Tom's about microstutter and the like.

low powered cards like what.?
your trying to be logical but honestly bro, it's not working...
a few things you have said are traits of fanboism and just not knowing completely..
a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2012 1:09:11 PM

Maximus_Delta said:
Get the 7850. Its on a completely new process, 28nm vs 40nm. In terms of performance efficiency the difference is massive and it does over clock. Funny how the strong recommendations for the 570 are from owners of 570s... try running your cards in OCCT stress test guys, they artificate on default clocks, yeah great cards.


Did you ever consider the fact that they own gtx570s because they are well informed buyers, did their research, and bought the stronger card? I'm not talking down AMD Graphics, I would consider myself an AMD Graphics fanboy. I wouldn't buy anything else unless nvidia dropped their prices on all models about 15%-20%. I would suggest a 570 over a 7850 though. I would not buy a 7850 unless it was $200. At that price point it is a great card. At $250? MEH. I would go get myself a used HD7870 (like I did) for $250. THATS a good bang for buck deal.

Also I rather have 10% better performance for a whole year than a .25% less power bill for the whole year.

Not every card overclocks like a monster. Out of the 6 Radeons I have tinkered with in the past month(4 of them being 7000 series) 3 of them achieved great overclocks. (2 of those were 6950s)
Overclocking is a luck of the draw type scenario. Unless the OP wants to up his budget for a 7870, the gtx570 is the way to go.
July 27, 2012 7:59:33 PM

stickg1 said:
Did you ever consider the fact that they own gtx570s because they are well informed buyers, did their research, and bought the stronger card? I'm not talking down AMD Graphics, I would consider myself an AMD Graphics fanboy. I wouldn't buy anything else unless nvidia dropped their prices on all models about 15%-20%. I would suggest a 570 over a 7850 though. I would not buy a 7850 unless it was $200. At that price point it is a great card. At $250? MEH. I would go get myself a used HD7870 (like I did) for $250. THATS a good bang for buck deal.

Also I rather have 10% better performance for a whole year than a .25% less power bill for the whole year.

Not every card overclocks like a monster. Out of the 6 Radeons I have tinkered with in the past month(4 of them being 7000 series) 3 of them achieved great overclocks. (2 of those were 6950s)
Overclocking is a luck of the draw type scenario. Unless the OP wants to up his budget for a 7870, the gtx570 is the way to go.

thank you all but I decided to buy a 7850 after all... the 570 was almost 50% more expensive and I managed to get the cheapest 7850 in my country lol, the msi frozr 2 which i heard is great
Managed to get to 1175 at 1.125 volts and 1375 memory clock. I could easily get to 1200+ I bet and In BF3 I only get 60-70 degrees and 80+ fps without AA and 50-60 with everything on high but I only got to try out the singleplayer but from my experience they're similar in FPS, I have great internet (100mbps upload and download) and a great cpu so I don't lag when 63 other players play with me. This card is just awesome it's a giant step up from my 450 and it's... simply awesome. I had no drivers issues whatsoever, I consider AMD's drivers to be actually better since I always had problems with nvidia's (had to use driver sweeper multiple times because the new drivers wont install). Videos play way better, no more buggy deinterlacing or whatever the short period the screen's all corrupted when you skip a video is called... Overall it's a great card but like others said if your country has better cards at the same price then consider another card, If this one's the cheapest... then I don't see why you shouldn't buy it!


For future 7850 users: if you want to unlock the voltage use TriXX. MSI doesn't work (which is ironic, asus didnt work for voltage control on my asus gts450 and now on my msi frozr 3 7850 afterburner doesn't work) so don't use it, except if you want to take some screenshots or something. I noticed I need about vddc 1.125v for 1150mhz core so you can work around that area and tweak it around. Memory clock I see doesn't increase performance too much, maybe 1fps or something so I set it at 1337 for obvious reasons, you go higher and you get higher temps for nothing. I think you can easily get 1200 and I'll try to reach that or more but after I install my new AC in my room so I can lower my ambient from 30+ to 20-25


Also another thing, use driver sweeper to erase every trace of old drivers from older cards, remove everything related to those drivers in add or remove programs and if you cant remove all of them even try removing the registry keys so they disappear from that list if they get bugged. Also remove VLC, I saw it had some nasty visual errors and really slow playback for my card so I got GOMplayer, now videos are much faster and have a much better degree of clarity.


Managed to get at 1200mhz core, 1375mhz memory at 1.150v.
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