NEW BUILD ADVICE

[FRIDGE13]

["If I'd known it was that easy, I'd've been stealing monkeys since I was 7 and ***."-Jay] Hey Guys/Gals I'm new to the PC world and could use some advice on my proposed build for a new work station PC.

1) Usage.

Video editing, Photoshop, Graphics, Audio Production/Music, and light Gaming/etc. (gaming not that important to me, my pc gaming usage most likely to be some nintendo emulators or something I already have an xbox wii and ps3 lol)

2) Budget. Tax and shipping included.

$0-$2500

3) Parts List.

Mobo: Asus PX79 WS

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131798

Processor Intel i7 3820 or 3930k can't decide if I really need six cores please assist!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YM9JSW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-3930K-Hexa-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B00603QXPM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1347649202&sr=1-1&keywords=3930k

GPU: GTX 570 or 670

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EYSMGW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_9?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130802

RAM: G Skill Ripjaws Z or X series with either (2x8GB) or (4x4GB)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231501 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231441
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231486

Also Z or X series??? RAM is confusing to me please advise....

Boots: Crucial 128GB/256GB/512GB M4 SSD and a Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM 1TB HDD

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004W2JKZI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T3GRNW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=A23NVCSO4PYH3S

Power Supply: Corsair 850ax

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PJ6QW4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_10?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Blu-Dr: Pioneer BDR-207

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075WEPJI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Case: Antec 1200 Full Tower

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004INH0FS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Monitors: 2 Viewsonic 22" 1080p led

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003HFCDLY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate

4) Timeline.

Next 30 days.

5) General Questions/Overview

So is this setup too advanced for me? not advanced enough?

Is the Gtx 570 obsolete?

Do I need a six core processor or is quad all good?

What RAM do I really need?

Do I need the WS x79 or is stock/pro the better choice?

Will all these components work together?

Do I need additional cooling?

Can you RAID 1 an ssd to a hdd?

Where can I save here? please advise!

Thanks all!

 

[obsama1]

I'd just get an i7-3770K and ASRock Extreme6 or ASUS P8Z77 series mobo. Get the 670. Here's the RAM:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231609

Get a 128GB SSD. Get 650w and Windows Home Premium 64-bit.
Get the Hyper 212 EVO cooling.

 

[malbluff]

Most of that looks pretty good. Whether you need hex-core, only you can decide. It helps speed up some of the CPU intensive tasks in editing. In most respects it's a question of how much, and how important max speed is. Generally tend to say, for the professional hex is virtually essential, for the amateur, a nice luxury, if not on tight budget, if you are a real enthusiast.
Neither of those RAMs, really. You need to decide which processor, first to decide best RAM. You will need to get cooler for CPU. If you want to use air cooler, you will need low profile RAM (to avoid a clash). 1600 MHz Cas9 is ideal speed.
Whether you want WS mobo is similar to whether you want hex core. If you are going to work it really hard, then it may be worth it.
You really need two identical drive for raids. If you can find it, there was very good article in PC & Tech Authority, a couple of moths ago.

 

[malbluff]

I'd just get an i7-3770K and ASRock Extreme6 or ASUS P8Z77 series mobo. Get the 670. Here's the RAM:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231609

Get a 128GB SSD. Get 650w and Windows Home Premium 64-bit.
Get the Hyper 212 EVO cooling.

If OP doesn't want to go to hex-core level, agree i7-3770K and (preferably good) Asus Z77 is the way to go. Whilst GTX 670 now fine with Adobe, not sure it's BETTER than 570, for video etc. Obviously is for gaming. If he's really seriously into photo stuff, may even be worth thinking of Quadro, but might struggle with budget.

 

[FRIDGE13]

Most of that looks pretty good. Whether you need hex-core, only you can decide. It helps speed up some of the CPU intensive tasks in editing. In most respects it's a question of how much, and how important max speed is. Generally tend to say, for the professional hex is virtually essential, for the amateur, a nice luxury, if not on tight budget, if you are a real enthusiast.
Neither of those RAMs, really. You need to decide which processor, first to decide best RAM. You will need to get cooler for CPU. If you want to use air cooler, you will need low profile RAM (to avoid a clash). 1600 MHz Cas9 is ideal speed.
Whether you want WS mobo is similar to whether you want hex core. If you are going to work it really hard, then it may be worth it.
You really need two identical drive for raids. If you can find it, there was very good article in PC & Tech Authority, a couple of moths ago.

Thanks bluff that helps out a lot but would you go for the 3770k or 3820? and is that GTX 570 outdated? which GPU should I go for? 670?

 

[FRIDGE13]

hmm the quadros are so expensive and Ive heard the 570 nearly/does outperform(s) the 4000 both ,256-bit. The Quadro 2000 is only 128-bit and still more expensive than the 570... but i'm just not sure... the budget was originally 1500 but for what I want/need I am not spending any less than two grand (including monitors mouse and key) lol

 

[obsama1]

The 3770K, because it's cheaper, on a newer architecture, and beats the 3820 by ~5%. The 570 uses a lot of power. The 670 is newer.

 

[malbluff]

hmm the quadros are so expensive and Ive heard the 570 nearly/does outperform(s) the 4000 both ,256-bit. The Quadro 2000 is only 128-bit and still more expensive than the 570... but i'm just not sure... the budget was originally 1500 but for what I want/need I am not spending any less than two grand (including monitors mouse and key) lol

Frankly, if you are going to stick with quad core, I think you are just as well to go with i7-3770K, and possibly Asus P8Z77-V PRO. More, sort of, "mainstream". I think the V PRO is really good board. You can argue it's a bit overpriced, and there are cheaper, but you can't argue with the quality. GPU choice depends, a bit, on what else you might want it for. The GTX 670 is more up to date, and nimble, for things like gaming, but the older GTX 570, is very good for editing type stuff, equal, possibly better than the GTX 670, just for that. 570 can be regarded as a bit of a reliable workhorse, the 670 more of a thoroughbred.

 

[FRIDGE13]

The 3770K, because it's cheaper, on a newer architecture, and beats the 3820 by ~5%. The 570 uses a lot of power. The 670 is newer.

Thanks obsama! and as far as mobo? are you a fan of the x79's? or is the p8z77's the way to go for video?

 

[obsama1]

The x79's aren't compatible w/ the 3770K.

For the mobo get either the Extreme 6 or P8Z77-V. Both are great.

 

[FRIDGE13]

Frankly, if you are going to stick with quad core, I think you are just as well to go with i7-3770K, and possibly Asus P8Z77-V PRO. More, sort of, "mainstream". I think the V PRO is really good board. You can argue it's a bit overpriced, and there are cheaper, but you can't argue with the quality. GPU choice depends, a bit, on what else you might want it for. The GTX 670 is more up to date, and nimble, for things like gaming, but the older GTX 570, is very good for editing type stuff, equal, possibly better than the GTX 670, just for that. 570 can be regarded as a bit of a reliable workhorse, the 670 more of a thoroughbred.

Good analogy! At about a 100 dollars more the 670 may be the wiser choice I guess if I did go the p8z77 route there is about a 100 dollars savings between the px79 ws so it works out.... quick question though is the deluxe p8z77 model worth the extra 80 dollars between pro?

 

[FRIDGE13]

The x79's aren't compatible w/ the 3770K.

For the mobo get either the Extreme 6 or P8Z77-V. Both are great.

Thank you

 

[hapkido]

CPU + Mobo: Intel Core i7-3770K + MSI Z77A-G45 $431.98 (before $10 mail-in-rebate)
Cooler: COOLER MASTER V6 GT $49.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600 $89.99
GPU: GIGABYTE Radeon HD 7870 $259.99 (before $7.56 shipping and $20 mail-in-rebate)
SSD: Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 240GB SATA III $169.99
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM x2 (RAID 1) $169.98 (before $7.98 shipping)
Blu-ray: LG Black 14X BD-R $69.99 (before 4.99 shipping)
Case: COUGAR Evolution Black $89.99 (before $12.99 shipping)
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower XT 675W 80+ BRONZE Modular $89.99

Sub-total: $1421.89
Shipping: $33.52
Total: $1455.41

Mail-in-rebates: -$30.00

If you spend a lot of time rendering, you may want to go with i7-3930k. It's going to add ~$250 to your build. You're not a gamer, so an AMD 7850 or greater is a better choice than similarly priced Nvidia options because of their greater GPU compute performance. You can choose whatever case and optical drive you want.

 

[obsama1]

Don't get the V6.
Get a 240/256GB 830 or M4.
Thermaltake makes so-so PSU's. Otherwise, good.

 

[FRIDGE13]

The x79's aren't compatible w/ the 3770K.

For the mobo get either the Extreme 6 or P8Z77-V. Both are great.

which model of extreme 6 though?

 

[obsama1]

The Z77.

 

[FRIDGE13]

3770k or 3930k? Also is an 850w power supply too much? should I just go 750?

 

[obsama1]

How much video editing and Pphotoshop do you do? If you do a TON, then 3930K. Otherwise, 3770K.

 

[obsama1]

850w is way too much. 650w is good.

 

[FRIDGE13]

The Z77.

but is the p8z77-v preferred?

 

[FRIDGE13]

Best answer selected by FRIDGE13.

 

[obsama1]

First decide your CPU. If you go 3770K, I'd get the ASUS. If you get the 3930K, stick with the one you have now.

 

[FRIDGE13]

so should I RAID1 with two SSDs or two HDDs or is hybrid a bad idea?

 

[obsama1]

Sorry, I don't know a lot about RAID, so I can't help you with that. : (

 

[FRIDGE13]

First decide your CPU. If you go 3770K, I'd get the ASUS. If you get the 3930K, stick with the one you have now.

so in other words 3930k and asus px79 ws whereas 3770k and asus p8z77 pro? or what were you sayin?