Core i5 3570, to upgrade or not to upgrade...

[XFA24]

So I have this plan to upgrade my cpu from an Core i3 550 to an Core i5 3570

but I don't intend to upgrade my Operating System as well, btw my O.S. is Win7 Home Basic 32-Bit

so that leaves me with 3.5 GB of RAM...

Should I upgrade? I dont intend to upgrade anymore parts...

My Current Specs:
CPU: Intel Core i3 550 @3.2 GHz
GPU: MSI GTX 660 Twin Frozr III OC Ed
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 1x4GB DDR3 1333
PSU: Seasonic M12II 620W

If it would help for you guys to know what my purpose is, it is to play some games such as the upcoming Crysis 3 and GTA V...
at most with high settings...

-Thank you in Advance!

 

[MatildaPersson]

I would definitely upgrade. You will get a performance boost in most everything.

May as well get Windows 8 64bit while you're at it, yeah. The extra RAM is nice and Windows 8 tends to run a few games better.

 

[neon neophyte]

yep. upgrade. get a 2nd stick of ram while you are at it so you can run it in dual channel mode

as for windows 8 running games better, im going to call hog wash. it might get 1 frame or 2 in a few games but when i ran it, it had considerably worse fps drops in planetside 2. there are a few games where for some reason the performance isnt where it should be

also, you are going to need a 64 bit operating system

 

[satyamdubey]

and you will need a new mobo too. cant fit 3570 in your current mobo.

 

[XFA24]

But what if I do not upgrade my OS? would it make my games run slower? a lot slower perhaps?

 

[XFA24]

and you will need a new mobo too. cant fit 3570 in your current mobo.

Yes of course, I will buy a new mobo

 

[crazypotato]

Yes, you should seriously consider an upgrade. If you have an overclocking board, get the 3570k, if not get the standard one. Next, I suggest you get a 64bit os, just pirate it or something if you dont have the money and then get another 4gb ram stick and you should be done

 

[crazypotato]

Yes, you should seriously consider an upgrade. If you have an overclocking board, get the 3570k, if not get the standard one. Next, I suggest you get a 64bit os, just pirate it or something if you dont have the money and then get another 4gb ram stick and you should be done

 

[MatildaPersson]

But what if I do not upgrade my OS? would it make my games run slower? a lot slower perhaps?

Upgrading atm won't do anything for you. But if you get another stick of RAM (the same as your other one) and then upgrade, you will see a performance boost in high settings games.

 

[neon neophyte]

he would see a small boost right now by upgrading to a 64bit operating system. even with just 4 gigs he isnt able to use all his ram.

64bit raises that limitation, if you had 8 gigs you would definitely want it.

 

[MatildaPersson]

he would see a small boost right now by upgrading to a 64bit operating system. even with just 4 gigs he isnt able to use all his ram.

64bit raises that limitation, if you had 8 gigs you would definitely want it.

32bit supports 4GB of RAM. It says 3.5 on his control panel, because 500MB is being used. It says that on all systems.

Upgrading now without another RAM stick makes no difference.

 

[neon neophyte]

is being used? in my control panel it says "8 gb." none of it is "being used."

 

[satyamdubey]

Yes, you should seriously consider an upgrade. If you have an overclocking board, get the 3570k, if not get the standard one. Next, I suggest you get a 64bit os, just pirate it or something if you dont have the money and then get another 4gb ram stick and you should be done

Whoa!!! hold your horses man...don't talk piracy...you'll get banned!!

 

[MatildaPersson]

is being used? in my control panel it says "8 gb." none of it is "being used."

lolno

Your computer is using RAM even when entirely idle. Your computer is NEVER not using RAM.

 

[neon neophyte]

*face palm* gee, really? it's why i put it in quotes. the fact his computer is using his ram doesnt explain why it only lists 3.5 gb

 

[FinneousPJ]

It should say 4 GB if it supported 4 GB. I know mine says 12 GB not 11.5 GB or whatever.

 

[satyamdubey]

with a new mobo you might have to re install your OS. there are ways to avoid the hassle of doing that by setting your hard drive and video adaptor to generic. and then using your hard drive with your new mobo.

I'll let you know if i could dig something out on that.

 

[neon neophyte]

Windows 7 32 bit, Windows Vista 32 bit, Windows XP 32 bit, Linux 32 bit, all have something in common... 32 bit numbers go up to 4 billion.

So to address each byte of memory, you need to have a number to address it by... once you run out of numbers, you can't address any more.

So 32 bit operating systems have what is called a 4GB address space... However... system memory is only one kind of memory... there is also Graphics memory for example, so each device shares in part of the 4 billion available addresses.

all this means in practical use, you will see 2.5 to 3.6 GB of available address space for system memory depending on what size of memory your hardware is consuming...

This is one of the main reasons to switch over to 64 bit addressing.
64 bit numbers can address up to about 16 exabytes of memory... so the hardware ceases to be a limitation.

so yeah on average Windows 7 (and every other 32 bit OS) can use around 2.5 to 3.6 GB of system Memory

ie, upgrading to 64 bit windows would allow the system to address the full 4gb of system memory. it WOULD make a difference.

 

[satyamdubey]

*face palm* gee, really? it's why i put it in quotes. the fact his computer is using his ram doesnt explain why it only lists 3.5 gb

what matilda is pointing out to is that not the entire 4 GB ram is available when using 32 bit windows. some is system reserved.
It says something like 3.5 GB installed, and 2.89 available (for instance)

 

[satyamdubey]

alright you beat me to it...

 

[neon neophyte]

no, what she is trying to say is that all his ram is being addressed and that he would see no benefit to upgrading to a 64bit operating system.

this is not true. she thinks that the 4gb limit on 32 bit operating system is entirely for the system ram and is rationalizing that thought even though the system is only listin 3.5gb as being addressed.

simply put, she is wrong.

 

[XFA24]

Yes, you should seriously consider an upgrade. If you have an overclocking board, get the 3570k, if not get the standard one. Next, I suggest you get a 64bit os, just pirate it or something if you dont have the money and then get another 4gb ram stick and you should be done

Yeah well, i thought of that too, but then again, I wouldn't want my legit OS go to waste..

And also, I don't want pirated Operating Systems.... wouldn't want to tolerate these

 

[MatildaPersson]

no, what she is trying to say is that all his ram is being addressed and that he would see no benefit to upgrading to a 64bit operating system.

this is not true. she thinks that the 4gb limit on 32 bit operating system is entirely for the system ram and is rationalizing that thought even though the system is only listin 3.5gb as being addressed.

simply put, she is wrong.

If they were to upgrade this second, their system would use the exact same amount of RAM.

They have 4GB. Windows 7 x64 can use 4GB. Allowing you to use more when you only have 4GB will not give you any more RAM magically. Your system will still reserve the exact same amount of RAM and allow you to use the exact same amount of it.

64x isn't magic and it isn't a performance upgrade.

 

[neon neophyte]

no, you are wrong. all his ram isnt being addressed because the 4gb limitation on his 32bit operating system is addressing hardware OTHER THAN his system ram. this is why he is only seeing 3.5gb as usable.

a 64 bit operating system would remove that limitation allowing his system to address OTHER HARDWARE and his ALL of his ram. giving him his 4gb as usable.

now please stop posting, you dont have a clue what you are talking about.

 

[MatildaPersson]

no, you are wrong. all his ram isnt being addressed because the 4gb limitation on his 32bit operating system is addressing hardware OTHER THAN his system ram. this is why he is only seeing 3.5gb as usable.

a 64 bit operating system would remove that limitation allowing his system to address OTHER HARDWARE and his ALL of his ram. giving him his 4gb as usable.

now please stop posting, you dont have a clue what you are talking about.

I would have an easier time believing you knew what you were talking about, if you actually used English. You can shout and carry on like a child all you like. You aren't proving anything.