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I have a good graphics card, yet my games are still laggy.

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July 28, 2012 12:27:16 AM

I have a AMD Radeon HD 7750 that i recently purchased and installed, and it works fine for most games, (fallout, skyrim, ect...) but when i tried to play Crysis 2 and Brink, they both were extremely laggy. On both games the video specs are set to high, and I even tried turning them dow for Brink, however it still lags horribly. any help or answers would be much appreciated. Thanks.
July 28, 2012 12:35:49 AM

The 7750 shouldn't be able to play Crysis smoothly at 1080p. It manages a laughable 19 FPS average maxed out, so it should be around 25-30 FPS average on high, which really isn't "playable".

Brink may be a driver issue, though again, you shouldn't expect a 7750 to run it smoothly maxed out at 1080p anyway.

What CPU and PSU do you have?
July 28, 2012 12:41:12 AM

augh. Thanks, however. i just came from a horrible card, which repeatedly caused my computer to overheat and shut down. I will probably return this, as this is what my local computer store recomended for me. any suggestions on cost effective graphics cards? or is there any way to tune down the games, as crysis wont let me select anything lower than the "high" setting, while Brink can only go to "Medium"
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July 28, 2012 12:46:16 AM

Oh, my bad. I forgot that Crysis's lowest setting is high. >.> Try to figure out how much FPS you are actually getting via Fraps, In game benchmarks, etc. Also, is this happening at the menu screens or only when you are actually playing the game?

Knowing the manufacturer and the make of your PSU would also help in terms of troubleshooting, as Crysis should be playable on its lowest setting.
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July 28, 2012 12:49:51 AM

1080p, you want a 7870 minimum. Your local store is pretty poor if they sold you a slow 7750.
July 28, 2012 12:52:42 AM

Not sure who made the PSU, its the stock one that came with my computer, and it is only happening when i am in game, not at the menu. brink however does it both in menu and in game.
July 28, 2012 12:57:31 AM

Smeg45 said:
1080p, you want a 7870 minimum. Your local store is pretty poor if they sold you a slow 7750.

IMO, for decent gaming at 1080p, you want a 6950/560 Ti. For a better experience, 7850/480/570. Then, if you want an ideal experience 7870/7950. Anything more than an overclocked 7950 is overkill IMO. I wouldn't call the 7870 the "minimum" for 1080p considering the $210 7850 gets ~40 FPS on BF3 maxed out.

Rustyconcrete said:
Not sure who made the PSU, its the stock one that came with my computer, and it is only happening when i am in game, not at the menu. brink however does it both in menu and in game.

Your computer overheating may be a PSU problem,as typically pre-built computers have incredibly low-quality power supplies, the only exception as far as I know is Dell.
July 28, 2012 1:03:21 AM

Smeg45 said:
1080p, you want a 7870 minimum. Your local store is pretty poor if they sold you a slow 7750.


What? hd 7870? I was playing Crysis 2 max in a hd 7770 yesterday and damn it was not laggy even a little bit 30+ FPS! Please check your processor and your Motherboard. I am sure your Motherboard has PCI 1.0. Your graphic card will exceed the bandwidth of pci 1.0. 7750 is not that good card. It is for power efficiency. It doesnt require a power connector as well. Get a HD 6850 and you can play well provided you get a better MoBO and Processor
July 28, 2012 1:07:12 AM

Merueth said:
IMO, for decent gaming at 1080p, you want a 6950/560 Ti. For a better experience, 7850/480/570. Then, if you want an ideal experience 7870/7950. Anything more than an overclocked 7950 is overkill IMO. I wouldn't call the 7870 the "minimum" for 1080p considering the $210 7850 gets ~40 FPS on BF3 maxed out.


Your computer overheating may be a PSU problem,as typically pre-built computers have incredibly low-quality power supplies, the only exception as far as I know is Dell.


You really don't need that costly cards for maxing out games at 1080p. A GTX 460, hd 7770, hd 6850 will give you crysis 2 30+ FPS sure! I tested all three. I don't knw about BF3, a very poorly created game
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July 28, 2012 1:15:08 AM

AyuX said:
What? hd 7870? I was playing Crysis 2 max in a hd 7770 yesterday and damn it was not laggy even a little bit 30+ FPS! Please check your processor and your Motherboard. I am sure your Motherboard has PCI 1.0. Your graphic card will exceed the bandwidth of pci 1.0. 7750 is not that good card. It is for power efficiency. It doesnt require a power connector as well. Get a HD 6850 and you can play well provided you get a better MoBO and Processor



I think your perception of what "max" entails is flawed.

There is no way a single 7770 can run crisis 2 maxed in 1080p.



I had crossfire 6850's, they could not max it out and some settings had to be lowered.


7870 seems to me to be the proper advice.








July 28, 2012 1:26:25 AM

I doubt a 7870 will run off a typical Lenovo/HP/etc. PSU without any hitches. Either way, from what I have seen xfire 6850's get around 45 FPS in Crysis 2, which is very close to the 7850's 42 FPS; both which I consider more than playable.
July 28, 2012 1:37:34 AM

maxalge said:
I think your perception of what "max" entails is flawed.

There is no way a single 7770 can run crisis 2 maxed in 1080p.



I had crossfire 6850's, they could not max it out and some settings had to be lowered.


7870 seems to me to be the proper advice.


THere was a setting above Hardcore?
July 28, 2012 1:38:49 AM

Rustyconcrete said:
I have a AMD Radeon HD 7750 that i recently purchased and installed, and it works fine for most games, (fallout, skyrim, ect...) but when i tried to play Crysis 2 and Brink, they both were extremely laggy. On both games the video specs are set to high, and I even tried turning them dow for Brink, however it still lags horribly. any help or answers would be much appreciated. Thanks.


"Laggy" video is usually the processor running out of space.
Check to see that the processor is running about 50% when you play the game.
If it gets up near 100% the video lags...it's out of space.
July 28, 2012 1:47:07 AM

maxalge said:
I think your perception of what "max" entails is flawed.

There is no way a single 7770 can run crisis 2 maxed in 1080p.



I had crossfire 6850's, they could not max it out and some settings had to be lowered.


7870 seems to me to be the proper advice.


See this, search for 6850
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/06-Cr...
July 28, 2012 1:47:35 AM

maxalge said:
I think your perception of what "max" entails is flawed.

There is no way a single 7770 can run crisis 2 maxed in 1080p.



I had crossfire 6850's, they could not max it out and some settings had to be lowered.


7870 seems to me to be the proper advice.


I was talking about 1080p
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/06-Cr...
July 28, 2012 1:50:10 AM

AyuX said:
THere was a setting above Hardcore?

According to TH's official benchmarks, the 7770 gets 24 FPS average in Crysis 2 on all max settings. You would have to have a water-cooled, heavily OC'd special edition 7770 to break 30 FPS average when C2 is maxed out.



The Chart you linked reinstates what I just said, as the 7770 is near the bottom of the list, at a lowly 23.6 FPS.
July 28, 2012 2:21:00 AM

with amd, sad to say, pay no attention to their naming system.....what ever generation you choose you need to pick x8xx or higher, anything less is just rebranded last generation......and what makes it worse is you cant cross fire rebranded cards even though they are exactly the same (effectively speaking)
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July 28, 2012 4:01:59 AM

Merueth said:
According to TH's official benchmarks, the 7770 gets 24 FPS average in Crysis 2 on all max settings. You would have to have a water-cooled, heavily OC'd special edition 7770 to break 30 FPS average when C2 is maxed out.



The Chart you linked reinstates what I just said, as the 7770 is near the bottom of the list, at a lowly 23.6 FPS.




Correct.


To me maxed out means exactly that, HD textures, dx11, 1920 x 1080 all settings 60+ fps per second.


24fps is unplayable...


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July 28, 2012 5:00:08 AM

I'd still like to know what the CPU is.
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July 28, 2012 5:50:36 AM

Deemo13 said:
I'd still like to know what the CPU is.


That seems like a far better question than what the definition of max settings are :lol: 
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July 29, 2012 6:58:47 AM

Merueth said:
IMO, for decent gaming at 1080p, you want a 6950/560 Ti. For a better experience, 7850/480/570. Then, if you want an ideal experience 7870/7950. Anything more than an overclocked 7950 is overkill IMO. I wouldn't call the 7870 the "minimum" for 1080p considering the $210 7850 gets ~40 FPS on BF3 maxed out.


Your computer overheating may be a PSU problem,as typically pre-built computers have incredibly low-quality power supplies, the only exception as far as I know is Dell.


40FPS isn't that good for a FPS, you'd want 50FPS to prevent dips, so a 7870 is better. A 6950/560 is obsolete, the 7870 is faster cooler and uses less power.
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July 29, 2012 8:01:08 AM

Still have no clue what the CPU is.
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