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September 16, 2012 5:14:57 PM

New build and I'm looking for any tips or comments. I'm gutting an old system and keeping a Lian Li
PC71 (Full Size) case and a Dell 30" Monitor 3007WFPt Rev A01. I'd like to keep the build under $4000.
This system is for gaming with the one, 30" Dell monitor. Lots of BF3. I know I'm over building a bit, but like to make sure I'm good for the next year or so.


Here is my current parts list.

ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-3930K

CORSAIR DOMINATOR GT 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 Model CMT16GX3M4X2133C9

Not sure if I'm going with one 690 or 2 x 680 4GB. Both cards below.

GeForce GTX 690 4GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

EVGA 04G-P4-3687-KR GeForce GTX 680 FTW+ w/Backplate 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready

Antec TPQ-1200 1200W

Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F480GBGT-BK 2.5" 480GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

ASUS Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Blu-ray Burner BW-
12B1ST/BLK/G/AS

Also going to get a standard HD, but not sure which one yet.



So my real question is about my first liquid cooling setup. What parts would be the best for what I

want? Again, I want top quality parts.

4x120mm radiator (top mounted)
Pump
Reservoir
Water block for
CPU, Video Card(s) and would like a full block for the chipsets on the MB. I'm just going to fan the ram.

I would like to go with all copper.

Also, would one 680 4GB card be able to handle my 30" monitor with no problems? Not sure if I just get the 690 and be done with it, or get one 680 4GB now and if it lags, add another one. But then I have to mess with the cooling system. Might as well just get the 2 x 680's at once. Lots to think about.

Tell me what you think.

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September 16, 2012 6:32:57 PM

if you are gaming, this is all you would need. add another 7970 if you wish.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hDaN

1: x79 doesnt increase gaming performance
2: more ram doesnt help either
3:680s and 690s arent the thing you would be looking for to run your 30inch monitor
4:large sandforce ssds are slower than their 240gb counterparts. id actually recommend samsung instead
5:you can get better power supplies than antec
6:watercooling doesnt really help out that much although you can go that route
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September 16, 2012 7:43:03 PM

For the small cost to jump up to X79 and 16GB of ram, I'm in. Who knows what games might take advantage of in the next 12-18 months.

If 2 - 680 4GB cards in SLI isn't the most optimal setup for one 30" monitor or one 690, what is?

As far as the SSD size, from what I've read the more you fill the drive the slower it gets. I was planning on using about 200 GB, so thats why I was going to get at least double that to keep the drive at 50%. If that is incorrect, please tell me the exact SSD model your talking about.

I've used Antec PS in the past an never had a problem with them. What would you use?

Water Cooling - I want to OC this setup to around 4.2 Ghz and want to keep the noise down.

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September 16, 2012 7:46:22 PM

you can get two more 30'' monitors and have a 3d nvidia surround setup :D 
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September 16, 2012 8:10:43 PM

bri5150 said:
For the small cost to jump up to X79 and 16GB of ram, I'm in. Who knows what games might take advantage of in the next 12-18 months.

If 2 - 680 4GB cards in SLI isn't the most optimal setup for one 30" monitor or one 690, what is?

As far as the SSD size, from what I've read the more you fill the drive the slower it gets. I was planning on using about 200 GB, so thats why I was going to get at least double that to keep the drive at 50%. If that is incorrect, please tell me the exact SSD model your talking about.

I've used Antec PS in the past an never had a problem with them. What would you use?

Water Cooling - I want to OC this setup to around 4.2 Ghz and want to keep the noise down.


1: games have yet to use 4 cores. since the intel core 2 quad q6600, it has still been that way
2:heres the ssd. price match it at us.ncix.com to get free shipping
http://www.adorama.com/SSGZ7PC256BW.html?utm_term=Other...
3: a xfx psu. specifically the xfx xxx 750w you should get the 850w
4:the phanteks cooler can easily get 4.5ghz and is quieter
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September 16, 2012 8:23:45 PM

to play on single monitor its waaaaaaay to much to spend 4000 $ if you ask me ( but its your money)
what i would pick from main parts for gaming is :
3770k (as you love to spend money)
asus sabertooth (also overpriced a bit)
gtx 680x 1
you can take 16gb of ram just in case (8gb is more than enough)
and i would probably buy corsair 850w modular psu for that build.
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September 16, 2012 9:04:19 PM

Trying to futureproof, beyond maybe in terms of expandability, is a fools errand. It is much better to shop efficiently for a computer that preforms well every two years than to try and build one that will last for four. In your case you could get by with:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hEfD

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($314.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($207.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage (SSD): Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage (HDD): Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($364.50 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($364.50 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D ATX Full Tower Case ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($74.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell U2711 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($819.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell U2711 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($819.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3928.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Same budget. Two extra monitors and a new case, along with opportunity for an overclock on the CPU. If you want the reason why I cut down on your SSD size, your video cards, and your PSU, it's because it was totally overkill before. The GTX 680 is about 10% better than the GTX 670 for 25% more cost. If you are worried about future games, you can sell the 670s and buy the next generation of cards, probably for less money overall than getting the two 680s and better preformance overall.

Similarly on the storage front, the SSD I decided on for you should have ample room for a Windows install, several often-used programs, and several games. For example, one of the largest games available now is Shogun 2, which takes up about 30GB with save files. You could store that, iTunes, and the Windows 7 install and still have more than half the room left. Large files that do not need to be read quickly (IE: your music library) can be stored on the HDD.

Your power supply before was totally overkill. This power supply should be enough, maybe STILL more than enough for your needs.

Also, now you can get two more monitors. TWO MORE MONITORS for glorious 3d action and nearly tripled workspace.

A final note: the price of the system will go up by about $80 when the deal for the Gigabyte 670s expires on Wednesday. So, no pressure, but try to decided somewhat quickly.
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September 16, 2012 9:17:12 PM

Games have yet to use 4 cores? Wow lol, you never know what kind of fud your going to hear on this forum.

Bri5150, your proposed build is a workstation build with gaming graphics, not a gaming build. A faster Ivy Bridge quad core is going to game better than a slow 6 core.

I suggest you go for a s1155 system.

Or better yet, fill out the new build form in the new build section of the forum for advice.

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September 16, 2012 10:39:04 PM

geekapproved said:
Games have yet to use 4 cores? Wow lol, you never know what kind of fud your going to hear on this forum.


some games still dont.
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September 16, 2012 11:34:53 PM

MANY games still don't, but MANY games do. You told him "Games have yet to use 4 cores since the Q6600". Totally false statement.
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September 17, 2012 12:12:29 AM

TheBigTroll said:
1: games have yet to use 4 cores. since the intel core 2 quad q6600, it has still been that way
2:heres the ssd. price match it at us.ncix.com to get free shipping
http://www.adorama.com/SSGZ7PC256BW.html?utm_term=Other...
3: a xfx psu. specifically the xfx xxx 750w you should get the 850w
4:the phanteks cooler can easily get 4.5ghz and is quieter


bf3 can use and max out AT LEAST 5 threads because i get about 70% cpu usage in bf3 with crossfired 6950's

geekapproved said:
Games have yet to use 4 cores? Wow lol, you never know what kind of fud your going to hear on this forum.

Bri5150, your proposed build is a workstation build with gaming graphics, not a gaming build. A faster Ivy Bridge quad core is going to game better than a slow 6 core.

I suggest you go for a s1155 system.

Or better yet, fill out the new build form in the new build section of the forum for advice.


agreed to a T
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