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September 16, 2012 9:42:56 PM

Hello, I'm looking for the best 1300 buck pre-built gaming desktop, anything good?
September 16, 2012 9:52:53 PM

Well I guess I'm going to give up on this
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September 16, 2012 10:02:23 PM

What resolution do you want to play at, do you have a brand preference, and what games do you want to play?

Why are you considering giving up on this?
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September 28, 2012 3:36:24 PM

blazorthon said:
What resolution do you want to play at, do you have a brand preference, and what games do you want to play?

Why are you considering giving up on this?

I would want to play on the high-max settings with 50+ fps on all modern games, just can't stand console gaming
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October 1, 2012 8:31:27 AM

I'd rather save $300 and get something cheaper and build it yourself.

And before you go and say "well, I can't build one" take 40 minutes of time and learn how:

40minutes=$300? I think so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls
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October 1, 2012 5:20:05 PM

luciferano said:
Here are some computers that you might be interested in. They can play excellently in 1080p (the second one is better, but more expensive).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Good god prebuilts have horrible value. Are you sure that you don't want to do a home-built? You could spend half this much to get a faster build.



Really? I'd like to see the $700 faster build. Thanks.
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October 1, 2012 6:01:33 PM

Well, 1300-300=$1000.....

But I can do a $700 as well.

Here's $700.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j3RF
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j3RF/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j3RF/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.88 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($237.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($46.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $672.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Here's a $1300:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j3UV
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j3UV/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j3UV/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($102.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($387.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1118.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

That leaves you enough for a monitor, mouse, keyboard and whatever else you want.
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October 1, 2012 7:58:01 PM

Deemo13 said:
Well, 1300-300=$1000.....

But I can do a $700 as well.

Here's $700.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j3RF
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j3RF/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j3RF/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.88 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($237.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($46.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $672.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)



That leaves you enough for a monitor, mouse, keyboard and whatever else you want.


OK, you did a $700 build. But the other guy claimed you could do a faster build at half the price. You have a i5-3450 and radeon 7870 vs. the cyberpower's i5-3570k and radeon 7970. I don't think your build will be faster. In addition the cyberpower has twice the RAM, 4 times as big hard drive, blue ray player and windows operating system. No way your build can stack up against the cyberpro although I suppose you could argue its a better value. Anyway, what you were claiming ($300 savings) seems much more plausible than what the other guy claimed. I did look at the video about building. Very interesting. I am convinced I could build a computer. I'm not convinced I want to go to all the trouble. I can just see myself flipping through the manuals trying to figure out which cable is which and where is it supposed to attach. obviously the first build would be the hardest. Someday I may try it -as kind of a science project for my son. But as far as value is concerned I'm totally satisfied with the scratch and dent at Dell outlet. I've bought 3 desktops there in the last 6 years, all still running no problems. In each case, I simply could not buy the parts for what I paid.
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October 1, 2012 8:48:24 PM

jaykimf said:
OK, you did a $700 build. But the other guy claimed you could do a faster build at half the price. You have a i5-3450 and radeon 7870 vs. the cyberpower's i5-3570k and radeon 7970. I don't think your build will be faster. In addition the cyberpower has twice the RAM, 4 times as big hard drive, blue ray player and windows operating system. No way your build can stack up against the cyberpro although I suppose you could argue its a better value. Anyway, what you were claiming ($300 savings) seems much more plausible than what the other guy claimed. I did look at the video about building. Very interesting. I am convinced I could build a computer. I'm not convinced I want to go to all the trouble. I can just see myself flipping through the manuals trying to figure out which cable is which and where is it supposed to attach. obviously the first build would be the hardest. Someday I may try it -as kind of a science project for my son. But as far as value is concerned I'm totally satisfied with the scratch and dent at Dell outlet. I've bought 3 desktops there in the last 6 years, all still running no problems. In each case, I simply could not buy the parts for what I paid.


I didn't claim $700 was faster, I said $300 cheaper could be faster. And I was making more of a point.

More than 8GB of RAM is useless in gaming. Not many people use Blu-ray right now, and you can add a hard drive if you need storage.

I dunno, I don't like Dell at the moment, since they haven't put anything higher than the 7570 in their XPS unless you custom order it.

Also, you aren't going to be able to go to the store and get something like that for $700.

If you need a Windows OS, you can kick down the processor to an i3 and kick down the motherboard as well with minimal performance hit.

Its a good $700 build, but its not going to beat a $1300 pre-built. Its still really solid though.
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October 1, 2012 10:09:53 PM




Yes I understand that you didn't say your $700 would be faster, and yes I understand its a good build. I was just using your build to illustrate how implausible the other guy's claim was. "You could spend half this much to get a faster build." As I said, what you claimed is much more realistic. As for what you claimed, all I'm saying is that I can get just as much if not more savings through the outlet store. Granted you may or may not be able to find the configuration you want at the outlet store. I bought my XPS about 14 months ago. i7-2600, radeon 5770, 1.5 tb hard drive and windows. Those 4 components alone add up to about what I paid for the whole system . ($650 or so) That configuration might not suit you but it suits me and it would be impossible to build it myself that cheaply. Granted there are a couple of scratches on the side of the case. Someday I may dig out a black marker and eliminate them.
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October 2, 2012 5:34:03 AM

jaykimf said:
Yes I understand that you didn't say your $700 would be faster, and yes I understand its a good build. I was just using your build to illustrate how implausible the other guy's claim was. "You could spend half this much to get a faster build." As I said, what you claimed is much more realistic. As for what you claimed, all I'm saying is that I can get just as much if not more savings through the outlet store. Granted you may or may not be able to find the configuration you want at the outlet store. I bought my XPS about 14 months ago. i7-2600, radeon 5770, 1.5 tb hard drive and windows. Those 4 components alone add up to about what I paid for the whole system . ($650 or so) That configuration might not suit you but it suits me and it would be impossible to build it myself that cheaply. Granted there are a couple of scratches on the side of the case. Someday I may dig out a black marker and eliminate them.


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j7EP
I'm kinda torn between the choice of video card here:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-fx795atdjc
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-ax78...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/galaxy-video-card-66nnh7dv...

With any of them, it would generally be superior in gaming performance compared to the $1300 build that I suggested at a little over half the price. Of course, this is ignoring combo deals such as some of Newegg's offers, barebones kits, and more, so even better performance at this price point or similar performance at a somewhat lower price point is probably doable. Not so outlandish, is it?
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October 2, 2012 1:15:09 PM

Deemo13 said:
I'd rather save $300 and get something cheaper and build it yourself.

And before you go and say "well, I can't build one" take 40 minutes of time and learn how:

40minutes=$300? I think so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls



Ik how to build one, I have been building them for 30 years, now I want to take a brake and get some pre-built ones that can be upgraded, I just need a break lol, so I'm gnna game for a while, then get back to my long ass boring job
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October 2, 2012 4:20:25 PM

luciferano said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j7KW

With either
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr797...
or two of these:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/his-video-card-h787q2g2m

It's more difficult to top the $1400 build that I suggested, but still, shaving off around $350 while improving performance was still doable without even using combo deals and/or barebaones kits.



Since your build uses the same GPU and a lesser CPU, I'm not sure how you are improving performance. And shaving around $350 off of $1400 does not give you half the price. Look, I'm not saying you can't save money by building yourself, but I do believe your claim exaggerated the savings. Furthermore, you can argue that more RAM, the bigger hard drive and blue ray player aren't necessary for a gaming rig, but if you want to illustrate how much you can save by building, to be fair , you should compare your build to a prebuilt that has a similar configuration.
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October 2, 2012 4:55:22 PM

P.S. Your build of $455 plus $413 for the radeon 7970 plus $91 for windows totals $958. I just went to the cyberpower website and configured a GAMER XTREME 2200 with a Core™ i5-3470, radeon 7970, and similar RAM etc. for a total of $1080. So your build is certainly cheaper, but for a lot of people the savings are really not worth the extra effort.
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October 2, 2012 6:17:40 PM

Well, I just feel that CyberPower doesn't use quality components is all, like the power supply for instance.
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October 2, 2012 6:39:57 PM

Deemo13 said:
Well, I just feel that CyberPower doesn't use quality components is all, like the power supply for instance.


If you go to the cyberpower website you can see that you can specify which components you want. For power supply you have about 40 different choices.
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October 2, 2012 7:41:28 PM

Well, if you want a CyberPower, then go for it.

I'm just saying that if you build it yourself, you can generally guarantee quality.

I already put in my 2 cents.
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October 2, 2012 11:59:58 PM

jaykimf said:
Since your build uses the same GPU and a lesser CPU, I'm not sure how you are improving performance. And shaving around $350 off of $1400 does not give you half the price. Look, I'm not saying you can't save money by building yourself, but I do believe your claim exaggerated the savings. Furthermore, you can argue that more RAM, the bigger hard drive and blue ray player aren't necessary for a gaming rig, but if you want to illustrate how much you can save by building, to be fair , you should compare your build to a prebuilt that has a similar configuration.


It's not the same graphics. The 7870 that I suggested is about 15-20% faster than a reference 7870 and I had a 7950 and GTX 660 Ti as two other choices. The second build that I did had better graphisc than the $1400 prebuilt that I suggested. Both of my suggested homebuilts beat the respective prebuilt that I compared them to. Beyond that, I clearly stated that the $1400 build was more difficult to top and I didn't get near half the price and instead saved ~350.

More than 8GB of RAM isn't going to help any game. It helps things such as Photoshop and extreme multi-tasking, but not gaming. There's nothing to argue about with it. The Blu-Ray player is also not helping gaming, but is arguable for people who want to use a gaming computer to watch Blu-Ray movies. The higher capacity hard drive can matter, but that depends on how much non-gaming stuff is also done on the computer.

Furthermore, as I also stated, this was ignoring any combo deals, barebones kits, and such. I can get it lower with better performance and hard drive capacity and a Blu-Ray player if I want to. So, no, my claim wasn't exaggerated.
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October 3, 2012 12:03:46 AM

jaykimf said:
P.S. Your build of $455 plus $413 for the radeon 7970 plus $91 for windows totals $958. I just went to the cyberpower website and configured a GAMER XTREME 2200 with a Core™ i5-3470, radeon 7970, and similar RAM etc. for a total of $1080. So your build is certainly cheaper, but for a lot of people the savings are really not worth the extra effort.


Radeon 7870 CF and a Radeon 7970 GHz Edition are both faster than a Radeon 7970 and again, I can drop the price significantly by using barebones and/or combo deals. I simply threw two builds together ASAP to demonstrate how easy it is to save a lot of money while getting more performance.
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