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January 31, 2013 12:20:00 PM

these are the builds
i3 3220 build
mobo-2572
ram kingston 1333 4gb-1400
graphics hd 6670-5345
case with psu-800
1 tb wd hd-4020
processor-6668
total price - Rs 20,845

amd a10 5800k build
processor-8500
no discrete graphic card as i will be using the igp
case with psu-800
ram corsair 1600 4gb-1400
1 tb wd hd-4020
mobo - 5500
i really dont know which mobo to get but i am assuming this as max price
total - rs. 20,220
(this price could be less depending on mobo price)
which one would you suggest guys and please these are the only parts i can go with ...please dont suggest any higher budget component....
also please suggest me a good motherboard at the lowest possible price for the a10 in india ....

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January 31, 2013 1:16:58 PM

If your software is for a fast single core, the i3-3220.

If your software needs more cores, then the A10-5800K.

Also the HD6670 of the i3-3220 is a little better than the IGP of the A10-5800K.

A75 based motherboard is the one for most users/gamers who also need USB3, but if you need xfire then it is one based on the A85X.
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January 31, 2013 2:21:47 PM

well under rs 23000 i will take this:

Intel g645 @ 2.9 ghz cpu - 3000 or wait for g2130 @ 3.2ghz cpu
Gigabyte h61 - 2800
Wd 1 tb hd - 4100
Saphhire hd 7770 1gb - 8800
Corsair 4gb ram - 1400
Corsair cx430w psu - 2400
Iball or zebronics cabinet - 800

TOTAL rs - 23,300

please do not get kingston ram as their service is worst in india.go for corsair or gskill ram as they provide 10years warranty.
January 31, 2013 2:25:10 PM

why did you choose intel g645?
and yes but you know i am just interested in light gaming ...and mostly it would be a general purpose computer.....
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January 31, 2013 2:41:24 PM

for general purpose get and light gaming just get i3 3220 with eyes closed.

donot get that mobo for 2500.

get gigabyte h61 d2h,s2p mobo or asus p h61 mobo at 2800rs
January 31, 2013 8:42:05 PM

If you are going for i3 3220 preferably get at least a B75 chipset motherboard.Gigabyte b75m d3h costs Rs4000.
With B75 board you get a SATA III port and usb3.0 ports.The mobo shown by timarp000 is a socket fm1 based motherboard which is not compatible with trinity processors which require socket fm2 based motherboards.
If you don't require SATA III and usb3.0 ports then you can look for h61 mobos for i3 3220 or FM2-A55 chipset motherboards for a10-5800k.Look for gigabyte h61m-d2h for rs3100.This mobo has HDMI,DVI,VGA for display out,most others in this price range only have VGA.MSI FM2-A55M-E33 costs rs3600,is available at smcinternational.in.For a more feature-proof motherboard for the a10-5800k get ASUS F2A85-M-LE,costs rs5800.Check smcinternational.in for the availability of the suggested mobos for a10.
February 1, 2013 7:43:12 AM

The i3 with the discrete graphics is definitely the better option of the two as the gaming performance will be similar with the i3+6670 performing slightly better than the a10 but the i3 will beat a10 hands down in everyday use performing close to 30% better on everyday use and office productivity.

However, if budget is a contraint I think you can probably get the a10 system a little cheaper with a difference of 2,000 to 3,000.

The price you quoted for the i3 is quite good as I'm seeing upwards of 7,000 rs everywhere. Where are you buying your components?
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February 1, 2013 7:53:12 AM

He is buying from nehru palace,delhi
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February 1, 2013 8:04:04 AM

adikath7193 said:
why did you choose intel g645?
and yes but you know i am just interested in light gaming ...and mostly it would be a general purpose computer.....

that is for two reasons, g645 is a pretty potent cpu for gaming and the fact that games are more gpu bound rather than cpu. going 7770 you'll end up with a better overall gaming rig than with a 6670.

if you can invest in a graphics card later, then going with an A-10 will be a good idea as timar has suggested.
between your two choices and Ashish's suggestion however, I'll go with Ashish's build.
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February 1, 2013 8:45:24 AM

Ashish am not sure recommending a dual core pentium is such a good idea in 2013 considering he will be keeping the cpu for some years. id rather spend more and go with A10-5800k or A8-5600k with a 6670 in crossfire because quad core is becoming a necessity in gaming these days. the budget may be stretched to about 25k but i think its worth it
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February 1, 2013 10:12:08 AM

mohit9206 said:
Ashish am not sure recommending a dual core pentium is such a good idea in 2013 considering he will be keeping the cpu for some years. id rather spend more and go with A10-5800k or A8-5600k with a 6670 in crossfire because quad core is becoming a necessity in gaming these days. the budget may be stretched to about 25k but i think its worth it

Yes, i totally agree with you, a pentium in 2013? i dont think so.
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February 1, 2013 12:11:24 PM

I would use the A10 5800K + HD6670 run in dual graphics mode, that will beat the i3 + 6670 hands down where crossfire is scaled well.
February 1, 2013 12:37:52 PM

gkhemka said:
The i3 with the discrete graphics is definitely the better option of the two as the gaming performance will be similar with the i3+6670 performing slightly better than the a10 but the i3 will beat a10 hands down in everyday use performing close to 30% better on everyday use and office productivity.

However, if budget is a contraint I think you can probably get the a10 system a little cheaper with a difference of 2,000 to 3,000.

The price you quoted for the i3 is quite good as I'm seeing upwards of 7,000 rs everywhere. Where are you buying your components?

buying these components at nehru place
February 1, 2013 12:38:52 PM

ASHISH65 said:
for general purpose get and light gaming just get i3 3220 with eyes closed.

donot get that mobo for 2500.

get gigabyte h61 d2h,s2p mobo or asus p h61 mobo at 2800rs

i am getting the s2p at 2572 only : )...n i think d2h doesnt support third gen
February 1, 2013 12:40:15 PM

drinvis said:
If you are going for i3 3220 preferably get at least a B75 chipset motherboard.Gigabyte b75m d3h costs Rs4000.
With B75 board you get a SATA III port and usb3.0 ports.The mobo shown by timarp000 is a socket fm1 based motherboard which is not compatible with trinity processors which require socket fm2 based motherboards.
If you don't require SATA III and usb3.0 ports then you can look for h61 mobos for i3 3220 or FM2-A55 chipset motherboards for a10-5800k.Look for gigabyte h61m-d2h for rs3100.This mobo has HDMI,DVI,VGA for display out,most others in this price range only have VGA.MSI FM2-A55M-E33 costs rs3600,is available at smcinternational.in.For a more feature-proof motherboard for the a10-5800k get ASUS F2A85-M-LE,costs rs5800.Check smcinternational.in for the availability of the suggested mobos for a10.

d2h i dont think supports this third gen proccy
February 1, 2013 12:52:24 PM

satyamdubey said:
that is for two reasons, g645 is a pretty potent cpu for gaming and the fact that games are more gpu bound rather than cpu. going 7770 you'll end up with a better overall gaming rig than with a 6670.

if you can invest in a graphics card later, then going with an A-10 will be a good idea as timar has suggested.
between your two choices and Ashish's suggestion however, I'll go with Ashish's build.

ashishs build has high cost for me ...n budget is like really really tight constraint for me ...i was also inclined towards a10 build only because i hope on saving some money on that,....n my real purpose is just some light gaming with everday tasks
February 1, 2013 12:57:39 PM

timarp000 said:
Yes, i totally agree with you, a pentium in 2013? i dont think so.

guys really low on budget here ..... please help me
a10 or i3
if a10 then please save me some money on mobo
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February 1, 2013 1:31:30 PM

A i3 with HD 6670 will cost the same as a A10 with a 6670. The difference is dual graphics mode which make the A10 a far better option in this regard....endo story.

A10 or A8 + ASRock FM2A85X Extreme 6 ($100) + HD6670 = winner winner chicken dinner.
February 1, 2013 1:32:24 PM

are you sure a8 5600k will do the trick
February 1, 2013 1:33:59 PM

sarinaide said:
A i3 with HD 6670 will cost the same as a A10 with a 6670. The difference is dual graphics mode which make the A10 a far better option in this regard....endo story.

A10 or A8 + ASRock FM2A85X Extreme 6 ($100) + HD6670 = winner winner chicken dinner.

where i live there will be a huge difference between an i3 with hd 6670 and a10 with hd 6670
i only have the money to go with either a10 alone or i3 with an hd 6670
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February 1, 2013 1:37:08 PM

D2h supports i3 3220 100% sure.
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February 1, 2013 1:38:20 PM

adikath7193 said:
are you sure a8 5600k will do the trick

yes
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February 1, 2013 1:41:03 PM

It depends which to get i think hd 6670 would go for medium gaming.i will go with i3 3220 as i have used in my friends pc with hd 7950 and believe me it is a beast cpu.
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February 1, 2013 1:44:22 PM

Whats your max resolution for playing games?
February 1, 2013 2:22:33 PM

adikath7193 said:
d2h i dont think supports this third gen proccy

D2h should work well with i3 3220.Both 3rd gen and 2nd gen require lga1155 socket.
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For everyday purpose with some gaming a10-5800k is enough.You can get an a10-5800k with an a85x chipset motherboard.It would suffice for the needs.You can add a graphic card later later as well.
February 1, 2013 5:15:44 PM

drinvis said:
D2h should work well with i3 3220.Both 3rd gen and 2nd gen require lga1155 socket.
CPU support list

For everyday purpose with some gaming a10-5800k is enough.You can get an a10-5800k with an a85x chipset motherboard.It would suffice for the needs.You can add a graphic card later later as well.

any other motherboard you could suggest other than the a85x chipset ...something uch much cheaper than that : p
February 1, 2013 5:18:16 PM

das_stig said:
If your software is for a fast single core, the i3-3220.

If your software needs more cores, then the A10-5800K.

Also the HD6670 of the i3-3220 is a little better than the IGP of the A10-5800K.

A75 based motherboard is the one for most users/gamers who also need USB3, but if you need xfire then it is one based on the A85X.

thanks for the reply but can i get it with an a55 chipset ??? it would help me save money ...but i need to make sure if it would work definitely
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February 2, 2013 2:47:22 AM

A55 doesnt support USB 3.0 If you dont need USB 3.0 buy that
February 2, 2013 3:13:51 AM

I think this post isnt really going anywhere in terms of what adikath is trying to achieve. Let me summarise -

For regular use, the A10 is not a great processor as the CPU side is much weaker compared to the i3-3220. To be more future proof for regular use, the i3 is the best way to go without a doubt. For this do not even consider the A10 because the i3 performs 25-30% better for everyday and office use !!

A lot of people have suggested the A10 along with a discrete graphics card which makes no sense because adikath has repeatedly said he wants "light gaming" for which the i3+6670 will beat the a10 alone. Also crossfire with another graphics card does not always work well for all games and in fact works worse than single graphics card for some games.

Here is the link to check performance of the A10 against the i3 - http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-a10-58...

This should make it clear that i3+6670 is the superior option between the two.
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February 2, 2013 3:17:31 AM

I wouldn't go for build 2 because the APU's CPU and GPU are evenly matched so dual graphics will only make a difference in very GPU bound games. Also what case and PSU? I wouldn't trust ANYTHING other than Corsair, Seasonic, XFX and maybe a few exceptions for Cooler Master. Rosewill and LiteOn are examples of exploding PSUs and PowMax is an example of a kind of PSU that you want to wear a protection suit if you want to operate it and be within 20 feet and no matter what no more then 10 feet.
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February 2, 2013 3:35:58 AM

gkhemka said:
I think this post isnt really going anywhere in terms of what adikath is trying to achieve. Let me summarise -

For regular use, the A10 is not a great processor as the CPU side is much weaker compared to the i3-3220. To be more future proof for regular use, the i3 is the best way to go without a doubt. For this do not even consider the A10 because the i3 performs 25-30% better for everyday and office use !!

A lot of people have suggested the A10 along with a discrete graphics card which makes no sense because adikath has repeatedly said he wants "light gaming" for which the i3+6670 will beat the a10 alone. Also crossfire with another graphics card does not always work well for all games and in fact works worse than single graphics card for some games.

Here is the link to check performance of the A10 against the i3 - http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-a10-58...

This should make it clear that i3+6670 is the superior option between the two.

exactly right.that is why suggested i3.
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February 2, 2013 5:43:13 AM

i have a better idea. pentium and radeon 7750 would be better than i3+6670.
since his budget is very tight going with a pentium and a more powerful gpu like 7750 is a good idea. thats exactly what i could have done. so rather than spending more on cpu i spent more on gpu and its working great for me. no bottlenecks at all from any games so far
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February 2, 2013 5:50:07 AM

he was suggested that, Ashish did it but it's still over his budget. I wanted to do a hardwire build for him but have no idea what would the difference between their prices and Nehru place would be.
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February 2, 2013 5:52:20 AM

a pentium is 3400 rs and 7750 is 7000 rs. total about 10k
i3 is 7000rs and 6670 ddr3 is 4500rs total 11.5k
so pentium is cheaper and faster
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February 2, 2013 6:35:16 AM

satyamdubey said:
he was suggested that, Ashish did it but it's still over his budget. I wanted to do a hardwire build for him but have no idea what would the difference between their prices and Nehru place would be.

There is big difference in prices at nehru place like g645 cost rs 3400 whereas at nehru it just rs 2700.it is like lamington road in mumbai but cheaper
February 2, 2013 11:15:24 AM

MSI FM2-A55M-E33 ~3600 is available at smcinternational.in but it lacks usb3.0.
Check some FM2-A85x and FM2-A75 mobos in nehru place for usb3.0.They might be lot cheaper than online prices.Check the price of ASUS F2A85-M-LE at nehru place.

For regular usage a10-5800k is quite capable.I don't know what makes people think that it is an incapable processor.
i3 3220 is better than that in single threaded programs.In multi-threaded they are close and in some occasions the a10 is better.
But the IGP of a10-5800k is much better than i3 3220's hd2500.With i3 3220 he would require a graphic card for some decent level of gaming but with a10-5800k he can play games at a decent level with the IGP.He can go for a much better motherboard with usb3.0 and SATA III with A10-5800K set-up if he does not need the graphic card.He would also have the option to plug-in a graphic card later as well.
His purpose is daily works with some light gaming which does not necessarily translate into going for a pentium with a higher mid-range card as gaming might not be the main priority.
Anyway either of a10-5800k and i3 3220 as a processor is fine.
It's all about getting what suits one best and in his purchase power.
February 2, 2013 12:34:30 PM

well cheers guys i bought an i3 3220 with the gigabyte h61 m s2p ...my next plans would be to upgrade the 4gb to an 8gb by adding a 4gb stick and buying a gpu for it ... any suggestion on which 1 to buy for light gaming?
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February 2, 2013 12:38:19 PM

Now consider 4gb ram only as you doesnot need 8gb at all.what you mean by light gaming?specify game settings? What is your max resolution?
February 2, 2013 1:01:07 PM

i really dont know about the things you mentioned ...but yeah any setting that is crisp enough will be fine for me
February 4, 2013 9:06:32 AM

adikath7193 said:
well cheers guys i bought an i3 3220 with the gigabyte h61 m s2p ...my next plans would be to upgrade the 4gb to an 8gb by adding a 4gb stick and buying a gpu for it ... any suggestion on which 1 to buy for light gaming?


Good choice !! I am struggling with this choice myself and am leaning towards the A10 so I don't have to spend on a graphics card but since you are spending on a separate card, you took the best route. The i3 is by far the better processor for everyday use. The whole hullaballoo about multi core performance is insignificant for now as all everyday tasks depend very heavily on single core performance in which i3 excels as you must have seen from the benchmarks link I gave you. And even in multi core performance, it bests A10 but not by as much.

With regard to the graphics card, your original choice of the hd 6670 is a good one for running almost all modern games on high graphic settings with 1366 x 768 resolution. Plus since you haven't mentioned any game titles I'm assuming you're looking at mainly internet type games or simpler games, so you should be really good with this card. However, if you want a really specific reply, you need to provide more information such as which games you want to play with the required resolution and graphics settings (ultra/high/medium/low).
February 4, 2013 9:14:33 AM

drinvis said:
MSI FM2-A55M-E33 ~3600 is available at smcinternational.in but it lacks usb3.0.
Check some FM2-A85x and FM2-A75 mobos in nehru place for usb3.0.They might be lot cheaper than online prices.Check the price of ASUS F2A85-M-LE at nehru place.

For regular usage a10-5800k is quite capable.I don't know what makes people think that it is an incapable processor.
i3 3220 is better than that in single threaded programs.In multi-threaded they are close and in some occasions the a10 is better.
But the IGP of a10-5800k is much better than i3 3220's hd2500.With i3 3220 he would require a graphic card for some decent level of gaming but with a10-5800k he can play games at a decent level with the IGP.He can go for a much better motherboard with usb3.0 and SATA III with A10-5800K set-up if he does not need the graphic card.He would also have the option to plug-in a graphic card later as well.
His purpose is daily works with some light gaming which does not necessarily translate into going for a pentium with a higher mid-range card as gaming might not be the main priority.
Anyway either of a10-5800k and i3 3220 as a processor is fine.
It's all about getting what suits one best and in his purchase power.


I'm with you where you say that A10 has a really superior IGP and can beat the hell out of the i3 without a graphics card where playing games is concerned. In fact I want to buy a system and have been leaning heavily towards the A10 due to this but the daily and office productivity performance difference between the CPUs is quite a lot and is holding me back. The i3 is ahead of the A10 by a very large margin in this race. While it may suffice for today, the A10 will start getting old much quicker than the i3 based on the benchmarks. I'm hoping AMD rolls out its next gen of the APU soon, cause from what I hear thats looking really good !! But right now I'm in a bit of a muddle!
February 5, 2013 3:55:02 AM

gkhemka said:
I'm with you where you say that A10 has a really superior IGP and can beat the hell out of the i3 without a graphics card where playing games is concerned. In fact I want to buy a system and have been leaning heavily towards the A10 due to this but the daily and office productivity performance difference between the CPUs is quite a lot and is holding me back. The i3 is ahead of the A10 by a very large margin in this race. While it may suffice for today, the A10 will start getting old much quicker than the i3 based on the benchmarks. I'm hoping AMD rolls out its next gen of the APU soon, cause from what I hear thats looking really good !! But right now I'm in a bit of a muddle!


My point was that for every day usage a10-5800k is fine,more so if one is not going for a mid-range or higher GPU.
i3 3220 has a good lead in single-threaded tasks,in multi-threaded too i3 wins quite a many times while in some cases a10-5800k wins,but wherever the a10 wins generally it is by a very slim margin.If we take things like CPU based video encoding,in applications like handbrake a10-5800k would be noticeably better.
Richland as of now seems to have clock bumps over trinity.Perhaps we will have to wait for Kaveri to see some major improvements.
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