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September 17, 2012 4:33:46 AM

I'm making a gaming rig and I used the website PC part picker and I think it only chooses compatible items but I want to ask the expert here. If you have a different part that would give me equal performance for cheaper, I would love to know.
The GPU and CPU are the parts I am willing to switch if I can save money and get equal performances.

Change the GTX660ti for a HD7850/GTX560?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hHL3

And it'll be my first time building a gaming rig by myself. Are there any videos that would help me through the whole process? Building it and installing whatever is needed.

MOST OF ALL, MOST IMPORTANT THING.
Will it bottleneck?
September 17, 2012 4:49:35 AM

here, this one costs a bit more but its a lot better! http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gJ1L and it comes with a CPU cooler so you OC your CPU a bit (~4.2Ghz)
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September 17, 2012 4:52:18 AM

idroid said:
here, this one costs a bit more but its a lot better! http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gJ1L and it comes with a CPU cooler so you OC your CPU a bit (~4.2Ghz)


Doesn't have a monitor and it would be over my budget by over $200 about. I'm trying to keep everything under $1,200.
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September 17, 2012 5:18:16 AM

there are cheaper monitors that are about equal if you need to save money. Newegg has a good Acer for 140. And 24inch ASUS monitors for the same price. Do your own shopping instead of trusting pcpartpicker.

I wouldn't go near an OCZ SSD, especially with the Samsung 830 for 120 and crucial M4 at 109
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September 17, 2012 5:20:32 AM

unksol said:

I wouldn't go near an OCZ SSD, especially with the Samsung 830 for 120 and crucial M4 at 109


The vertex 4 is faster than the Samsung 830 and Crucial M4
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September 17, 2012 5:29:00 AM

unksol said:
there are cheaper monitors that are about equal if you need to save money. Newegg has a good Acer for 140. And 24inch ASUS monitors for the same price. Do your own shopping instead of trusting pcpartpicker.

I wouldn't go near an OCZ SSD, especially with the Samsung 830 for 120 and crucial M4 at 109


If you can find me a ICP/LED/HDMI/1920-1080 monitor for cheaper, go ahead :)  I am gonna use this computer for my PS3 also.
OCZ Vertex 4 are way faster than those 2.
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September 17, 2012 5:47:27 AM

idroid said:
The vertex 4 is faster than the Samsung 830 and Crucial M4


Doesn't matter that it's faster. You won't notice the difference, and reliability is what matters. OCZ has a very bad record for reliability, destructive firmware updates, and using flash chips from different manufactures with widely different performance in the same drives, and therefore advertising speeds the drives can't do.

There's a reason it's "faster" and newer, yet costs less
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September 17, 2012 5:51:34 AM

unksol said:
Doesn't matter that it's faster. You won't notice the difference, and reliability is what matters. OCZ has a very bad record for reliability, destructive firmware updates, and using flash chips from different manufactures with widely different performance in the same drives, and therefore advertising speeds the drives can't do.

There's a reason it's "faster" and newer, yet costs less


I find lots of great reviews on the OCZ Vertex 4. The Vertex 3 without a doubt had a lot of bad history but the Vertex 4 is completely different.
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September 17, 2012 5:55:01 AM

chengvang said:

OCZ Vertex 4 are way faster than those 2.


You should probably look at some benches as the Samsung 830 is quite a but faster on average, on par on write, and much faster on read. Sequential numbers don't represent actual usage and are just marketing BS. But of course your computer.

www.anandtech.com/show/6074/ocz-vertex-4-review-128gb/6
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September 17, 2012 5:58:07 AM

unksol said:
Doesn't matter that it's faster. You won't notice the difference, and reliability is what matters. OCZ has a very bad record for reliability, destructive firmware updates, and using flash chips from different manufactures with widely different performance in the same drives, and therefore advertising speeds the drives can't do.

There's a reason it's "faster" and newer, yet costs less


idk about you but my 3 Vertex 4s 512GB in RAID-0 are holding off REALLY good, OCZ definitely increased their SSDs quality.
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September 17, 2012 6:02:24 AM

unksol said:
You should probably look at some benches as the Samsung 830 is quite a but faster on average, on par on write, and much faster on read. Sequential numbers don't represent actual usage and are just marketing BS. But of course your computer.

www.anandtech.com/show/6074/ocz-vertex-4-review-128gb/6


Well the SSD isn't a big matter, still almost all same performance, I'm just weighing it out on the parts that cost big money.
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a b 4 Gaming
September 17, 2012 8:26:12 AM

You want a 750w psu and not a 650w. Also you might want to look into an after market cpu h/s seeing how you chose an unlocked cpu. Add a case. This build allows you to add a second card later on in SLI.


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-80PLUS-Certified-Modular-... $86.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair CX 750 Watts 80PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply CP-9020015-NA

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $119.99
ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Pro... $215.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_a... $32.42 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $327.98 save: $13.00 FREE SHIPPING
MSI N660Ti PE 2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-2-5-Inch-Solid-SDSSDP-128... $89.95 + $0.00 shipping
SanDisk 128 GB 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive (SDSSDP-128G- G25)

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SH-222BB-BEBE-Internal-So... $16.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE 22X SATA DVDRW Internal Drive (Black), Bulk without Software

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BZNDOO/ref=ox_sc_a... $134.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASUS VS228H-P 21.5-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor (Black) | 50,000,000:1 ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio; Full 1080P with HDMI

Total: $1,024.23 *not including shipping & rebates


http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $91.05 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack


http://usa.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VS228HP/ <----- another look at that monitor

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme3/ <----- another look at that Asrock board


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $229.99
GIGABYTE GV-N660OC-2GD GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

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a b 4 Gaming
September 17, 2012 8:42:11 AM

chengvang said:
Well the SSD isn't a big matter, still almost all same performance, I'm just weighing it out on the parts that cost big money.

OCZ makes junk products. Their Vetext 3 was a total fail along with all their other gimmicky products. Samsung, Sandisk, and Kingston HyperX series SSD's all use some form of Toggle NAND controller and are solid along with their firmware updates as in support. Crucial uses a Marvell controller and is another solid SSD although a bit slower than the previous mentioned SSD's. But again I wouldn't touch a OCZ SSD or any other OCZ product with a ten foot pole.
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September 17, 2012 8:44:58 AM

Why_Me said:
You want a 750w psu and not a 650w. Also you might want to look into an after market cpu h/s seeing how you chose an unlocked cpu. Add a case. This build allows you to add a second card later on in SLI.


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-80PLUS-Certified-Modular-... $86.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair CX 750 Watts 80PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply CP-9020015-NA

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $119.99
ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Pro... $215.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $327.98 save: $13.00 FREE SHIPPING
MSI N660Ti PE 2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-2-5-Inch-Solid-SDSSDP-128... $89.95 + $0.00 shipping
SanDisk 128 GB 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive (SDSSDP-128G- G25)

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SH-222BB-BEBE-Internal-So... $16.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE 22X SATA DVDRW Internal Drive (Black), Bulk without Software

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BZNDOO/ref=ox_sc_a... $134.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASUS VS228H-P 21.5-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor (Black) | 50,000,000:1 ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio; Full 1080P with HDMI

Total: $991.89 *not including shipping & rebates


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_a... $32.42 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $91.05 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack


http://usa.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VS228HP/ <----- another look at that monitor

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme3/ <----- another look at that Asrock board


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $229.99
GIGABYTE GV-N660OC-2GD GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://media.bestofmicro.com/U/X/352329/original/MULTI%20BF3.png



Your build is alot cheaper for some reason and I like that. I also have a question, why the mobo? Everyone says that mobo but there isn't one review about it.
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September 17, 2012 8:48:52 AM

chengvang said:
Your build is alot cheaper for some reason and I like that. I also have a question, why the mobo? Everyone says that mobo but there isn't one review about it.

There isn't any reviews on it for the fact it was just released less than a week ago. It's identical to the extreme4 other than it only has two SATA 6 ports (I seriously doubt you would ever require more), it runs a 8+3 phase configuration compared to the extreme4's 8+4 and it doesn't have that shiny little metal decoration over the south bridge. Otherwise it's pretty much the extreme4 but for a cheaper price. It's an ideal budget board that supports SLI and over clocks well.
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September 17, 2012 9:00:42 AM

Why_Me said:
There isn't any reviews on it for the fact it was just released less than a week ago. It's identical to the extreme4 other than it only has two SATA 6 ports (I seriously doubt you would ever require more), it runs a 8+3 phase configuration compared to the extreme4's 8+4 and it doesn't have that shiny little metal decoration over the south bridge. Otherwise it's pretty much the extreme4 but for a cheaper price. It's an ideal budget board that supports SLI and over clocks well.


Your build is really good and I like it but do I really need that high of a graphics card? It goes over my budget by like 300 with your build all together with the case and everything.
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September 17, 2012 9:03:37 AM

chengvang said:
Your build is really good and I like it but do I really need that high of a graphics card? It goes over my budget by like 300 with your build all together with the case and everything.

What's your total budget and do you need Windows 7 included? Also do you plan on over clocking?
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September 17, 2012 9:09:33 AM

Why_Me said:
What's your total budget and do you need Windows 7 included? Also do you plan on over clocking?


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hIAP

That is my build and I want you to over look it. It has many of the parts you have but I am not a expert. I want to stay in that same price range.

$1,150 should be my max for any parts that are changed out. So I guess about $100 in any part of the build that you think would help the performance.
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a b 4 Gaming
September 17, 2012 9:10:18 AM

chengvang said:
Your build is really good and I like it but do I really need that high of a graphics card? It goes over my budget by like 300 with your build all together with the case and everything.

My build came out cheaper than yours and that's even when you add a case to it like that CM HAF. I even posted a cheaper graphics card down below that build for a cheaper option to look at.
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a b 4 Gaming
September 17, 2012 9:16:43 AM

chengvang said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hIAP

That is my build and I want you to over look it. It has many of the parts you have but I am not a expert. I want to stay in that same price range.

$1,150 should be my max for any parts that are changed out. So I guess about $100 in any part of the build that you think would help the performance.

A few things wrong with that build. First off that psu will never support a second vid card and BF3 loves SLI seeing how it was coded for it. Also cheap down on your monitor. You don't need a 24" monitor, especially for a FPS like BF3. You want your pixels nice and tight and you want everything right in front of you instead of having to move your neck back and forth in order to cover that map. It's either that or you have to be at least a few feet back from the monitor. Screw all that. 22" like the one I posted is ideal. Nice tight clear picture and it's all right in front of you. Another thing is that cpu cooler is pure junk. The stock intel is better than that.

Take a look at the build I posted and add a case to it. If you want to save a few dollars then switch out the MSI GTX 660 ti I posted in that build (it's combo'd with the RAM), and go with that factory over clocked Gigabyte GTX 660 down below. I even posted a screen shot of what the stock 660 does and that Gigabyte card is over clocked to the max.
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September 17, 2012 9:19:48 AM

Why_Me said:
My build came out cheaper than yours and that's even when you add a case to it like that CM HAF. I even posted a cheaper graphics card down below that build for a cheaper option to look at.


I overlooked it. Yes your build is cheaper but I wonder how? I chose a cheaper graphics card and everything else?
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September 17, 2012 9:23:04 AM

Why_Me said:
A few things wrong with that build. First off that psu will never support a second vid card and BF3 loves SLI seeing how it was coded for it. Also cheap down on your monitor. You don't need a 24" monitor, especially for a FPS like BF3. You want your pixels nice and tight and you want everything right in front of you instead of having to move your neck back and forth in order to cover that map. It's either that or you have to be at least a few feet back from the monitor. Screw all that. 22" like the one I posted is ideal. Nice tight clear picture and it's all right in front of you. Another thing is that cpu cooler is pure junk. The stock intel is better than that.

Take a look at the build I posted and add a case to it. If you want to save a few dollars then switch out the MSI GTX 660 ti I posted in that build (it's combo'd with the RAM), and go with that factory over clocked Gigabyte GTX 660 down below. I even posted a screen shot of what the stock 660 does and that Gigabyte card is over clocked to the max.



Sorry if I'm bothersome but it's my first build and I want it to be the best I can get. Would you prefer a single GTX 660ti or would you prefer a factory OC GTX 660 and get a sli for it in 6 months?

I took your build and already put it in my cart, just confirming everything.
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September 17, 2012 9:24:59 AM

chengvang said:
I overlooked it. Yes your build is cheaper but I wonder how? I chose a cheaper graphics card and everything else?

For the fact I never use PC part picker, I went with a cheaper board and monitor, and I use newegg combo's when they save $$. Iv'e posted god only knows how many builds on this site and I always know where the sales are.
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September 17, 2012 9:27:55 AM

chengvang said:
Sorry if I'm bothersome but it's my first build and I want it to be the best I can get. Would you prefer a single GTX 660ti or would you prefer a factory OC GTX 660 and get a sli for it in 6 months?

I took your build and already put it in my cart, just confirming everything.

The 660 ti will get you better FPS but if it isn't in your budget then size down to that Gigabyte 660 I posted. It's all about keeping your build balanced and not shorting yourself in any area's of the build. Balance...that's what you want. So again if that 660 ti is in your budget then go for it, if not then the Gigabyte 660 I posted. And save yourself some money and go with that Sandisk SSD I posted. It's just as good as that Samsung SSD...they both use Toggle NAND, and save some $$$. You want to save $$$ without losing out on performance.
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September 17, 2012 9:34:31 AM

Why_Me said:
The 660 ti will get you better FPS but if it isn't in your budget then size down to that Gigabyte 660 I posted. It's all about keeping your build balanced and not shorting yourself in any area's of the build. Balance...that's what you want. So again if that 660 ti is in your budget then go for it, if not then the Gigabyte 660 I posted.


It's in my budget and I'll like the free Borderlands 2. I just add the HAF case and the build would be completed then? And do you suggest any website or video to help me build the computer?
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September 17, 2012 9:45:47 AM

chengvang said:
It's in my budget and I'll like the free Borderlands 2. I just add the HAF case and the build would be completed then? And do you suggest any website or video to help me build the computer?

They have a decent guide at the top of this forum but it's pretty hard to beat youtube. I mean you can watch the vid on a laptop while building your PC and it goes step by step. Also look at the Antec three hundred two @ amazon for $60 and free shipping. It has the front 3.0 USB ports and comes with more stock fans than the CM HAF.
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September 17, 2012 9:53:15 AM

Why_Me said:
They have a decent guide at the top of this forum but it's pretty hard to beat youtube. I mean you can watch the vid on a laptop while building your PC and it goes step by step. Also look at the Antec three hundred two @ amazon for $60 and free shipping. It has the front 3.0 USB ports and comes with more stock fans than the CM HAF.


I have no clue what is better but if you say it's better I guess I'll take it. It's also cheaper than the HAF case. I am also going to buy the max amount of fan I can to fix this case, how much would that be and what size? I also need to make sure my PSU can handle all of that.
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September 17, 2012 10:01:52 AM

chengvang said:
I have no clue what is better but if you say it's better I guess I'll take it. It's also cheaper than the HAF case. I am also going to buy the max amount of fan I can to fix this case, how much would that be and what size? I also need to make sure my PSU can handle all of that.

That Antec case comes with enough fans. If and when you add a second card then add the extra fans that fit that case. As far as the psu goes...so you see that Corsair 750w psu @ amazon I posted in that build? It will easily handle two cards, fans, drives, over clocking, etc... that's why I posted it...that and it's a bargain at that price.
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September 17, 2012 10:04:54 AM

Why_Me said:
That Antec case comes with enough fans. If and when you add a second card then add the extra fans that fit that case. As far as the psu goes...so you see that Corsair 750w psu @ amazon I posted in that build? It will easily handle two cards, fans, drives, over clocking, etc... that's why I posted it...that and it's a bargain at that price.


It only comes with 2 fans? I guess if that's enough then that's enough. Thank you for your help. First person to really helped me through the whole process of my build. I know can game the way I want.

I'm not sure if you know about this but what affects my fps in games when I record and is my build strong enough to run that monitor and another really old monitor that I'm just going to use to monitor my stream, like a dual desktop?
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September 17, 2012 10:14:39 AM

chengvang said:
It only comes with 2 fans? I guess if that's enough then that's enough. Thank you for your help. First person to really helped me through the whole process of my build. I know can game the way I want.

I'm not sure if you know about this but what affects my fps in games when I record and is my build strong enough to run that monitor and another really old monitor that I'm just going to use to monitor my stream, like a dual desktop?

You won't have any problems running dual monitors but when you can afford it you want to add that second card in SLI as soon as possible. It will make a tremendous difference with your FPS.

Add two of these to that case. One for the side and one in front.

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Tricool-Speed-120mm-Case/dp... $3.24
Antec Tricool 3 Speed 120mm Case Fan
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September 17, 2012 10:19:14 AM

Why_Me said:
You won't have any problems running dual monitors but when you can afford it you want to add that second card in SLI as soon as possible. It will make a tremendous difference with your FPS.

Add two of these to that case. One for the side and one in front.

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Tricool-Speed-120mm-Case/dp... $3.24
Antec Tricool 3 Speed 120mm Case Fan


Thank you so much for helping me get my build done. Spent 16 straight hours researching and finally got my answer and a great deal for it. I'll get back to you how this build goes. Thank you so much.
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September 17, 2012 10:20:49 AM

chengvang said:
Thank you so much for helping me get my build done. Spent 16 straight hours researching and finally got my answer and a great deal for it. I'll get back to you how this build goes. Thank you so much.

Have fun and good gaming :) 
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September 17, 2012 10:21:35 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($215.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($60.96 @ Amazon)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($48.88 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($123.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1119.60
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

The PSU and SSD are of very good quality. While other OCZ PSU's may not be too reliable, Sirtec's ModXStreams are one of the best from Sirtec. The SSD I chose is also fast and holds up to other brands.
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September 17, 2012 10:21:36 AM

Best answer selected by chengvang.
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September 17, 2012 10:22:10 AM

Why_Me said:
Have fun and good gaming :) 

I will do. Thank you!
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